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Akainu
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Players Cheating

Post by Akainu »

Game
Game 24380658
Greater China

Players:
mx1163
DarkseidKnight

DarkseidKnight has 71 games in total, all of them with mx1163, and in 95% of games in favor of mx1163
In our game DarkseidKnight basically sacrificed himself taking my troops out, he gave red (mx1163) the game from round 1, i looked DarkseidKnight and found out they are either the same person or just an account to bump mx1163 score.

Please look into this, if you need any more info let me know
Thank you!
Mx1163
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Re: Players Cheating

Post by Mx1163 »

DarkseidKnight is my cool coworker. He introduced me to DnD and I got him into conquer club. He doesn’t have a subscription here so he is limited to a small number of active games. I play daily and send him invites. I don’t know how much he plays outside of invites I send. We’ve played a lot of games together, most of which (I’d safely say 40+) are 1 v 1. That would explain the high percentage of my wins against him- I’ve played for several years and he is new. When we play in games with other people it’s always fair. No special treatment, just regular tactics of independent players. I totally understand reporting behavior that appears abnormal —no hard feelings there. However, I am confident a thorough review will not uncover any unethical or unsportsmanlike conduct.
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Re: Players Cheating

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Also reviewing gameplay. You say he gave me the game from round 1? That round he bombarded and annihilated my troops. There’s a turn he’s expanding by going after neutral territories. There’s a round he only attacked me.

At first I was like, I have to clear my name. Now I’m like, you’re probably a frequent flyer on the “I didn’t win, so somebody is cheating” train. Choo choo, buddy
Akainu
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Re: Players Cheating

Post by Akainu »

Round 1 and 2 he sacrificed himself against me, we had 11 and 10 troops each against your 20 something, you had nothing going on for you until him and i had 1 troop each in almost every territory, but like a i said in the game chat, when you get tired of losing you have to try something new, so you keep inviting him and all your neighborhood/company to your games and abuse them so you can bump your score because playing by yourself was definetely not working
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Re: Players Cheating

Post by riskllama »

yeah, this does look rather suspect...
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Akainu
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Post by Akainu »

Please review later rounds of these other game (final rounds)

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Akainu
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Post by Akainu »

Now in this other game they attack each other at the beginning but in the end mx1163 eliminates DarkseidKnight and exchanges in 2 rounds 3 sets of cards, which is too much for everyone else and he ends up winning that game, theres always something

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Akainu
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Re: Players Cheating

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Another one

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On this game, from round 3 to 6 they focused on Enzo until mx1163 became too strong and wiped both of them
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From round 8 until the end, both of them attacking Tarfeathers
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Post by Mx1163 »

Still not adding up. I’ve played 2200+ games. Consistent casual player during my downtime; Not competitive; I don’t keep track of any achievements or things like that. Your “aha” moment was simply me and DarkseidKnight playing 71 games together, completely ignoring that most are 1 v 1 games. Out of those remaining pool of games that had other players, I’d estimate we’ve had probably 30 games.

And after looking at those, you’re left with weak examples: they played normal in this game, but Mx1163 won because he eliminated DarkseidKnight and took his spoils. Okay.

What else: a couple of games where we turned on a common enemy after several rounds? Cool, but no explanation…

Was it a map where two opponents secured a foothold and a third was left fighting a war on two fronts? Was there a player that kept breaking my bonuses so I attacked back consistently in a retaliatory fashion? Like what are the finer details of the games? Because statistically the examples set over the total number of games and game types played don’t show a pattern.

I make moves based on things like securing/maintaining areas, breaking other’s bonuses after looking at short-term/long-term consequences of doing so, etc.

The games play fairly and you’re simply cherry picking. Three rounds here; the end of one game there. Those examples you gave are all just tiny snippets within a bigger picture of reasonable, fair, non-biased gameplay. I’m sorry, but you can’t force three puzzle pieces together and expect me to believe that it’s the picture on the box.

There are many more games being excluded because they don’t fit the narrative to support your argument. Games play out where DarkseidKnight gets eliminated before me by other players who get his cards. Games play out where I get eliminated first. Games play out where he breaks my bonuses. Those puzzle pieces were conveniently left out by you when creating this formal complaint.

And this accusation of how this game played out- I already debunked. He Did attack me in the first round when you said he didn’t from the beginning. His very second attack was against me.There was a round he attacked Only me. In this game, I started off with a good drop in West and Southwest of map and was able to gradually secure. While doing that, I also saw opportunity to secure Northeast and started moving down. It was a fairly played game. I expanded off radar until it was too late.

I don’t know why on the turn where it was 20-10-11 what his strategy was. Desperation that defeat was imminent? Misplaced troops? Recklessness? Trying to make an attack on the easiest target to get a spoils card? Whatever the strategy, it wasn’t cheating. At all. Whatsoever. It was simply another player, with a different skill level, making a move that you wouldn’t have made.

And with all these unfounded accusations, I’d love to hear how you twist that into a conspiracy if my score had actually went down and I keep playing games with him. Also you realize the majority of games I’m in don’t have him. Like I said, no subscription, so limited active games.That’s what’s behind this complex scheme from the shadow, right? Since you’re certain I’m cheating to get improvement, I’d like the team reviewing to state how much stats have improved or declined since my friend has joined.

Best,

Mx1163
Akainu
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Post by Akainu »

I think its pretty simple, youve played 2000 something games, winning some, losing a whole lot more and you got tired of that and took advantage of your "coworker", sorry, your cool coworker, and you used his lack of knowledge to your advantage, he has 71 games and all of them with you, like seriously, give it some thought, and its really easy to find that out, go to his profile and click "find games", so he has no interest of learning the game or playing with someone else, he just wants to join your games and throw the games to your advantage? Just by the pure fact that you know him in person, that you know the way he plays and that he is going to reckless against others its an advantage that only you know and the other players dont, and its funny that most games are only with 3 people or 1vs1, lovely friends, no chat, no jokes, no hellos, just you winning the game, nice friendship, so yeah, you can kick all you want, you know what you are doing and even if this doesnt get exposed hope you can correct the way you are playing, like you said, you are a recreational player, well, then enjoy the game the way it comes, with no advantages at all, by yourself, pure strategy, if you are bad, well, you are bad
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Post by Mx1163 »

Yeah it’s a buddy who plays. Has other things in life going on and CC isn’t his or my priority. Play mainly 1 v 1 games and asked you want to do some games with 3-4 people and see if you like it. Dude was like yeah, bet. He like them but prefers 1v1 to be majority.

It’s wild that something as simple as the concept of a friend is so foreign to you that it could only be cheating.

Like, Holy smokes, I’m not really good at frisbee golf, and I don’t play unless others invite me to go. That doesn’t mean that they are trying to use my inexperience to boost their scores. It’s like let’s have fun fun enjoying something without ruining it.

Sorry man. Your logic still doesn’t withstand scrutiny. Why do I sudden care about a score? And what of mine is improving? I think you were legit concerned at first, but now it’s doubling down on a bad accusation to save face.
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Post by Mx1163 »

Impressive how I tore your argument to shreds and you just give up to say you KNOW what’s happening here. Yeah we all do. You’re misrepresenting information. Plain and simple. I called it out and you glossed over it, like if ignore facts that discredit your position, and jump to a conclusion. Waiting for review to be complete so they can tell you what finding are.
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Post by Akainu »

I dont need to save face or anything, i stand by what i said and put in here, its as simple as that, you think theres not enough evidence and two other people already said its suspicious, the example you gave makes no sense at all, when you go play frisbee with your friends there is no score or ranks involved, no climbing up ladders, i dont care if CC is your priority or not, play the way its supposed to be played
Akainu
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You didnt shred anything buddy, funny you think you did, its like to live in an alternate reality
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Post by Mx1163 »

Oooh a recreational player played 40ish 1 v 1 games and 35 multiplayer games with his friend over the course of 4.5 months. Mad suspicious. Lmao
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Post by Mx1163 »

Your position doesn’t withstand scrutiny and the premises you used to demonstrate you point, Inshowed are cherry picked example not representative of overall gameplay. You abandoned defending those poor premises and are digging in your heels that the initial conclusion must hold true. Sorry, that’s called delusion
Akainu
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Yeah, 71 games, all with you and you won 95% of them
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Post by Akainu »

Now you know what i have abandoned and what i havent hahaahahahahaha, its like you are in my head, you should use this on your game, it might work and you might win some games
Mx1163
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Re: Players Cheating

Post by Mx1163 »

No I’m not in your head. Just here watching your argument fall apart.

I invited my friend who is new. We played mostly 1 v 1 games together and there’s a 95% win rate and that’s shocking how? It would be the same if it was checkers or dominoes.

Sorry man. It’s just an innocent game with friends. Like it sucks you truly believe something is fishy just like it sucks im falsely accused. But no stress. Gonna let that review happen. I await the results.
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