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I’m not sure who wrote it myself. I guess Matthew/Matityahu, but who can say for sure? What’s worth busting my balls over when it comes to how I talk if I talk like I do as a result of me trying guard against saying something that’s in error in the first place? I might be about as speculative as a person can be and not be able to absolutely prove much of anything at all without relying senses that could be flawed or memory that could be flawed or words of other people who could be lying, but that being said there is just so much evidence in support of Christ. 🍻

Now, let’s still talk about Psalm 2:1-4 and if there is any evidence that the devil and government officials and people with influence over academia conspire against the Creator, if you want to.
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First, Lionz, I think you have an incomplete and rather inaccurate view of me. You may have read some of my posts where I refute pack rat. I do not post to everyone as I do him; basically, he is a silly and pathetic and self-loathing rat. ENOUGH said about that low life.

Let's discuss what you posted here:
Now, let’s still talk about Psalm 2:1-4 and if there is any evidence that the devil and government officials and people with influence over academia conspire against the Creator, if you want to.
I did not follow why you put that in the discussion of the authorship of the Gospel, as I said before. Since you did not make it clear that you shifted topics in that same post, I asked for you to clarify (3X as I recall).

As far as your claim of the devil and conspiring with
government officials and people with influence over academia
I do not think the devil specifically targets those two groups. I DO think there are many in Academia who work vigorously against the God. Many are godless atheists. Their Liberal extremist views do not allow for God. One of the ironies of the colleges like Harvard is that they were founded to teach and train those who were to become ministers and preachers. They are now FAR from that Mission. As far as Government, I am not sure there are a majority there who work AGAINST God, especially at the Federal level under President Trump.
Harvard was founded and authorized by the Massachusetts General Court, the governing legislature of colonial-era Massachusetts Bay Colony.[13] While never formally affiliated with any Protestant denomination, Harvard trained Congregational clergy until its curriculum and student body were gradually secularized in the 18th century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvard_University

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The Catholic Church and Harvard might both have roots with people who had good intentions, but why would the devil not be trying to influence (or be straight up controlling?) governments and academia and msm and seminaries and yeshivas if he is the prince of this world and had the power to tempt Christ with the kingdoms of the earth?
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Lionz wrote: Wed Feb 25, 2026 7:58 am The Catholic Church and Harvard might both have roots with people who had good intentions, but why would the devil not be trying to influence (or be straight up controlling?) governments and academia and msm and seminaries and yeshivas if he is the prince of this world and had the power to tempt Christ with the kingdoms of the earth?
I never said that the
devil not be trying to influence (or be straight up controlling?) governments and academia and msm and seminaries and yeshivas
I agree that the devil does that. I merely said he did not specifically target
governments and academia
....OVER other groups. <<<(Perhaps I was not clear enough; I can admit THAT.)

Here again is from my Previous Post:
I do not think the devil specifically targets those two groups. I DO think there are many in Academia who work vigorously against the God. Many are godless atheists. Their Liberal extremist views do not allow for God.
The Devil tempts everyone, even Jesus Christ was tempted 3 times.
4 Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. 2 And when He had fasted forty days and forty nights, afterward He was hungry. 3 Now when the tempter came to Him, he said, “If You are the Son of God, command that these stones become bread.”
I assume that you know the rest, Lionz

part of Matthew 4:1-11, KJV
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.🤜 🤛.
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Lionz wrote: Wed Feb 25, 2026 3:45 pm.🤜 🤛.
and THAT is your ONLY RESPONSE? Do you want to discuss these issues or NOT?
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