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https://www.financialexpress.com/world- ... s/4288001/Riots erupt in London following France beat Morocco in FIFA Quarterfinals, police vehicles ambushed in Paris

On the contrary, a politician even attempting to interfere in a sporting disciplinary process is unprecedented and against all the sport's protestations that they don't allow politics to interfere with sporting decisions (even though English and Argentinian referees aren't allowed to be involved in games with the other country, due to the Falklands). Even Putin, as far as we know, hasn't tried to do that, and this sets a very dangerous precedent (from a very dangerous presidentjusplay4fun wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2026 9:03 pm You are making a mountain out of a molehill, Apatheist, with regards to Trump and the reinstatement of one player. That player had NO impact on the game where the USA lost to Belgium. If the player did impact the game and if the USA beat Belgium, THEN there would be reason to howl and complain about that situation. NOW, it is a minor footnote to the USA Team results in the 2026 World Cup. It is a very insignificant event. The Team did not play well and Belgium won. END of the Story.
While I agree that we want to keep Politics and Politicians OUT of SPORTS, it ain't happening. Note the cheating by Russians in the Olympics. FIFA is corrupt; there is TOO MUCH money there to avoid some. The same for Olympics and selection of Host Nations (and more).Apatheist wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2026 3:43 amOn the contrary, a politician even attempting to interfere in a sporting disciplinary process is unprecedented and against all the sport's protestations that they don't allow politics to interfere with sporting decisions (even though English and Argentinian referees aren't allowed to be involved in games with the other country, due to the Falklands). Even Putin, as far as we know, hasn't tried to do that, and this sets a very dangerous precedent (from a very dangerous presidentjusplay4fun wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2026 9:03 pm You are making a mountain out of a molehill, Apatheist, with regards to Trump and the reinstatement of one player. That player had NO impact on the game where the USA lost to Belgium. If the player did impact the game and if the USA beat Belgium, THEN there would be reason to howl and complain about that situation. NOW, it is a minor footnote to the USA Team results in the 2026 World Cup. It is a very insignificant event. The Team did not play well and Belgium won. END of the Story.). It is HUGE in the sporting world, and has, if you'll forgive the phrase, increased Trump's laughing stock. The fact that he thought he could, or should, try to influence the result of a red card is concerning for all sports.
I know it didn't affect the result - it would have been immense if Balogun had scored the winner, for example - but it is far from insignificant, and prompts questions about corruption at FIFA.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/soccer ... r-AA27gbhDThis isn’t the first time that the World Cup organizers have deployed Article 27 to rescue a high-profile player from exclusion.
Last November, superstar Cristiano Ronaldo received a red card in Portugal’s penultimate qualifying match for deliberately elbowing an Irish player—which would have come with a three-match suspension, and cost him two matches of the World Cup group stage. But within days, FIFA’s Disciplinary Committee adjusted his punishment to a one-year probationary period.
Now Balogun has also been granted the same clemency.
https://www.givemesport.com/england-kei ... me-demand/England fans are now pondering whether the UK government can step in and convince FIFA to suspend Jarell Quansah's red card. The right-back was sent off in the Three Lions' thrilling 3-2 win over Mexico last night in the Round of 16. (...)
Thomas Tuchel's men beat the co-hosts in an all-time classic at the Azteca in the early hours of Monday morning. Jude Bellingham's brace and Harry Kane's penalty sent their country through to the quarter-finals despite playing most of the second half with 10 men.
The Balogun controversy came a day after another surrounding the kick-off time for England's match against Mexico. There had been reports suggesting that the game would be moved to a later time due to weather and safety concerns.
FIFA were believed to be considering rescheduling the match from 1 am to a 7 pm kick-off time in the UK. Some in the Mexican media even claimed that the BBC had held discussions with FIFA to make the change for broadcast reasons.

No it's happened before. Or so I heard. Like Argentina '78.Apatheist wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2026 3:43 amOn the contrary, a politician even attempting to interfere in a sporting disciplinary process is unprecedented and against all the sport's protestations that they don't allow politics to interfere with sporting decisions (even though English and Argentinian referees aren't allowed to be involved in games with the other country, due to the Falklands). Even Putin, as far as we know, hasn't tried to do that, and this sets a very dangerous precedent (from a very dangerous presidentjusplay4fun wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2026 9:03 pm You are making a mountain out of a molehill, Apatheist, with regards to Trump and the reinstatement of one player. That player had NO impact on the game where the USA lost to Belgium. If the player did impact the game and if the USA beat Belgium, THEN there would be reason to howl and complain about that situation. NOW, it is a minor footnote to the USA Team results in the 2026 World Cup. It is a very insignificant event. The Team did not play well and Belgium won. END of the Story.). It is HUGE in the sporting world, and has, if you'll forgive the phrase, increased Trump's laughing stock. The fact that he thought he could, or should, try to influence the result of a red card is concerning for all sports.
I know it didn't affect the result - it would have been immense if Balogun had scored the winner, for example - but it is far from insignificant, and prompts questions about corruption at FIFA.
Allegedly, but not proven:Maxleod wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2026 7:36 amNo it's happened before. Or so I heard. Like Argentina '78.Apatheist wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2026 3:43 amOn the contrary, a politician even attempting to interfere in a sporting disciplinary process is unprecedented and against all the sport's protestations that they don't allow politics to interfere with sporting decisions (even though English and Argentinian referees aren't allowed to be involved in games with the other country, due to the Falklands). Even Putin, as far as we know, hasn't tried to do that, and this sets a very dangerous precedent (from a very dangerous presidentjusplay4fun wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2026 9:03 pm You are making a mountain out of a molehill, Apatheist, with regards to Trump and the reinstatement of one player. That player had NO impact on the game where the USA lost to Belgium. If the player did impact the game and if the USA beat Belgium, THEN there would be reason to howl and complain about that situation. NOW, it is a minor footnote to the USA Team results in the 2026 World Cup. It is a very insignificant event. The Team did not play well and Belgium won. END of the Story.). It is HUGE in the sporting world, and has, if you'll forgive the phrase, increased Trump's laughing stock. The fact that he thought he could, or should, try to influence the result of a red card is concerning for all sports.
I know it didn't affect the result - it would have been immense if Balogun had scored the winner, for example - but it is far from insignificant, and prompts questions about corruption at FIFA.
It's not the behaviour one expects from a democracy though. Trump has shown himself to be a dictator.The most infamous scandal surrounds the second-round group stage match on June 21, 1978, at the Estadio Gigante de Arroyito in Rosario. Argentina needed to defeat Peru by at least four clear goals to eliminate Brazil and advance to the final. Before the match, General Videla reportedly visited the Peruvian dressing room alongside armed guards to speak about "Latin American solidarity". Argentina went on to win the match 6-0 in a heavily suspicious performance.
Despite decades of suspicion and testimonies from former players, there has been no official FIFA investigation or overturned result.
The American team had done well up to that point. There would have been no shame if they just lost at that point. But after Trump couldn't help but stick his nose in and try to rig the game, everybody in the world was cheering the ass-kicking that Belgium served up.Trump is once again an international laughingstock after the U.S. Men's National Team crashed out of the World Cup despite the president's meddling.
Trump had urged FIFA president Gianni Infantino over the weekend to overturn a red card that would've kept the U.S. team's top scorer from playing against Belgium Monday night. For the first time in half a century, FIFA overturned the decision, but even that couldn't save the U.S. Men's Soccer team from being handily defeated 4-1. (And the player in question, Folarin Balogun, didn't even score America's lone goal of the night.)
"Overturn this," the Belgian Red Devils, Belgium's national team, wrote in a post on X after the game.
As if losing wasn't humiliating enough, a handful of players on the Belgian team were spotted doing Trump's iconic dance to celebrate one of their goals.

..which begs the question of why you were awarded the premier global competition to host.jusplay4fun wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2026 6:49 pm USA beat Canada for the Gold Medals (Men and Women) in Ice Hockey at the 2026 Olympics. We are are not a soccer nation.
Without knowing all the rules and "deals" and other relevant issues, I would say that the combination of Canada, Mexico, and the USA offered enough "stuff" of good venues, good income from sponsors and media broadcasts, and money.Apatheist wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2026 3:03 am..which begs the question of why you were awarded the premier global competition to host.jusplay4fun wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2026 6:49 pm USA beat Canada for the Gold Medals (Men and Women) in Ice Hockey at the 2026 Olympics. We are are not a soccer nation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_20 ... ld_Cup_bidFIFA promised reform after the 2015 Corruption Case and (then FIFA Presidential Candidate and now serving as FIFA President) Gianni Infantino promised transparency and true democracy on host selection.
In the end, a formal Bidding Process was created but one that also opened the gates for some backroom dealings

I don't think Bohemia would ever be big enough to host. However, I can well imagine a composite bid of Bohemia, Austria, Slovakia, and Hungary. I actually think this is a good change.Apatheist wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2026 10:55 am I expect there to be more multi-country events - which ironically will limit the chances for smaller nations to qualify, if there are multiple hosts already there.
Bohemia isn't a member of FIFA, so that wouldn't happen. You'd have to include the whole of Czechia.Dukasaur wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2026 11:18 amI don't think Bohemia would ever be big enough to host. However, I can well imagine a composite bid of Bohemia, Austria, Slovakia, and Hungary. I actually think this is a good change.Apatheist wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2026 10:55 am I expect there to be more multi-country events - which ironically will limit the chances for smaller nations to qualify, if there are multiple hosts already there.
And I wouldn't worry too much about flying... the major cities in the four countries are all accessible by overnight train, with the team arriving well rested.

And, to give a more complete picture, note that the USA hosted the World Cup in 1994:Apatheist wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2026 3:03 am..which begs the question of why you were awarded the premier global competition to host.jusplay4fun wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2026 6:49 pm USA beat Canada for the Gold Medals (Men and Women) in Ice Hockey at the 2026 Olympics. We are are not a soccer nation.
https://www.foxsports.com/stories/socce ... story-hostFIFA Men's World Cup
Brief History Of The 1994 World Cup In The United States
Updated Jun. 3, 2026
In 1994, the United States proved global critics wrong as hosts of the World Cup.
Skeptics in Europe and South America argued that a country without a top-tier professional league, paired with a population that supposedly didn't "understand" the game, was a questionable choice for the world’s biggest sporting event.
But what unfolded over the course of the summer was a memorable tournament witnessed by massive crowds at stadiums that were known more for the other kind of football. American soccer had its long-awaited defining moment.

I am a traditional Czech. I refuse to go along with this idiotic renaming. It was Bohemia for a thousand years, and I will call it Bohemia until the day I die.Apatheist wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2026 3:08 pmBohemia isn't a member of FIFA, so that wouldn't happen. You'd have to include the whole of Czechia.Dukasaur wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2026 11:18 amI don't think Bohemia would ever be big enough to host. However, I can well imagine a composite bid of Bohemia, Austria, Slovakia, and Hungary. I actually think this is a good change.Apatheist wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2026 10:55 am I expect there to be more multi-country events - which ironically will limit the chances for smaller nations to qualify, if there are multiple hosts already there.
And I wouldn't worry too much about flying... the major cities in the four countries are all accessible by overnight train, with the team arriving well rested.
True, but a) this is the men's tournament b) having success doesn't make it a soccer nation - GB has had success in hockey, both men's and women's, but it's still a long way down the list of sports in terms of participation and supporters c) the game didn't really catch on when you had the likes of Pele and George Best playing there - two of the best ever. Now that the older players looking for a pre-retirement pay day are heading to the middle East, I don't see it catching on any time soon d) medal is a noun, not a verb.jonesthecurl wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2026 12:59 am Not a soccer nation?
"The U.S. women's national soccer team (USWNT) is the most successful team in FIFA Women's World Cup history, winning four titles and medaling in every tournament except 2023."
https://usaheaven.com/articles/popular-sports-usaThe Most Popular Sports in the USA Ranked
Published on November 2, 2025 • By Sarah Anderson
Hence, the USA is NOT a soccer nation, imo.While no longer America's dominant sport, baseball maintains a special place in the nation's cultural history. Major League Baseball (MLB) remains a powerful economic force, generating approximately $10.7 billion in revenue for 2022.

I wouldn't put too much weight into some random 15 best article onlineApatheist wrote: Thu Jul 16, 2026 8:19 am I'm surprised golf is that low, with 3 of the majors and the Masters in particular.
WILLIAMS5232 wrote: as far as dukasaur goes, i had no idea you were so goofy. i mean, you hate your parents so much you'd wish they'd been shot? just move out bro.
Golf and tennis are (or at least were) considered here in the US, as sports of gentlemen, played a country clubs and the like. As such, fewer typically PLAY those games and watch those games and the sport. Note that loud cheering and jeering during the game is NOT allowed.Apatheist wrote: Thu Jul 16, 2026 8:19 am I'm surprised golf is that low, with 3 of the majors and the Masters in particular.
