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With the one HUGE exception that we don't have an autocratic warmongering narcissist buffoon with the power of executive orders.jusplay4fun wrote: Mon Aug 10, 2026 5:15 am Based on what Apatheist posted above, to me, basically, the US and UK have similar political problems.
+1Apatheist wrote: Mon Aug 10, 2026 5:46 amWith the one HUGE exception that we don't have an autocratic warmongering narcissist buffoon with the power of executive orders.jusplay4fun wrote: Mon Aug 10, 2026 5:15 am Based on what Apatheist posted above, to me, basically, the US and UK have similar political problems.
The good side of that is that the PM can't just do things without consultation; the downside is that it takes ages to get very simple things done.
Actually, the "exception" is not about any one man. It's the comparative advantage of a constitutional monarchy over a republic.Apatheist wrote: Mon Aug 10, 2026 5:46 amWith the one HUGE exception that we don't have an autocratic warmongering narcissist buffoon with the power of executive orders.jusplay4fun wrote: Mon Aug 10, 2026 5:15 am Based on what Apatheist posted above, to me, basically, the US and UK have similar political problems.
The good side of that is that the PM can't just do things without consultation; the downside is that it takes ages to get very simple things done.

The US does not need a monarchy to reduce and avoidApatheist wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2026 4:33 am The UK is not politically financially superior - the current (Labour) government is, like its Labour predecessors, economically illiterate, and spends money they don't have on things we don't need (such as free SIM cards for illegal immigrants). Ideology invariably gets in the way of good management.
We had an impasse over Brexit, which Jeremy Corbyn thankfully resolved for us by making himself unelectable, leaving Boris Johnson with a big majority. Boris was then removed over attending a surprise birthday party during lockdown - which was utterly absurd, for him, and the party that removed him.
The remaining hope for dealing with immigration and woke silliness, Reform, has now also managed to shoot themselves in the foot with scandals.
Politically, it's hopeless, but faith in the monarchy reduces the risk of civil war and anarchy.
We have the US Constitution, term limits (for the President), and the Courts to help prevent such things.the risk of civil war and anarchy.

I think most of the criticism DOGE received was justified.jusplay4fun wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2026 2:40 am The US Deficit very recently exceeded $40 TRILLION, and there is no appetite to rein in wasteful spending. Look at the criticism DOGE received as some evidence there.

You don't need them - but since we have no written constitution or term limits, I think WE do.jusplay4fun wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2026 6:30 amThe US does not need a monarchy to reduce and avoidApatheist wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2026 4:33 am The UK is not politically financially superior - the current (Labour) government is, like its Labour predecessors, economically illiterate, and spends money they don't have on things we don't need (such as free SIM cards for illegal immigrants). Ideology invariably gets in the way of good management.
We had an impasse over Brexit, which Jeremy Corbyn thankfully resolved for us by making himself unelectable, leaving Boris Johnson with a big majority. Boris was then removed over attending a surprise birthday party during lockdown - which was utterly absurd, for him, and the party that removed him.
The remaining hope for dealing with immigration and woke silliness, Reform, has now also managed to shoot themselves in the foot with scandals.
Politically, it's hopeless, but faith in the monarchy reduces the risk of civil war and anarchy.We have the US Constitution, term limits (for the President), and the Courts to help prevent such things.the risk of civil war and anarchy.
Our Federal Government has a similar record on lack of success on important issues, such as immigration reform and MUCH more.
Only ONE US President ran from more that two terms: FDR (Franklin D. Roosevelt) during the Great Depression and then WWII. He was likely DYING as he ran for his 4th term in 1944 and died soon after the Election. George Washington declined to run for a third term, when many wanted to make him, basically, a KING. He set the precedent to limit to TWO four year terms, and the Congress made it OFFICIAL in the 22nd Amendment to the US Constitution in 1951.Apatheist wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2026 8:24 amYou don't need them - but since we have no written constitution or term limits, I think WE do.jusplay4fun wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2026 6:30 amThe US does not need a monarchy to reduce and avoidApatheist wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2026 4:33 am The UK is not politically financially superior - the current (Labour) government is, like its Labour predecessors, economically illiterate, and spends money they don't have on things we don't need (such as free SIM cards for illegal immigrants). Ideology invariably gets in the way of good management.
We had an impasse over Brexit, which Jeremy Corbyn thankfully resolved for us by making himself unelectable, leaving Boris Johnson with a big majority. Boris was then removed over attending a surprise birthday party during lockdown - which was utterly absurd, for him, and the party that removed him.
The remaining hope for dealing with immigration and woke silliness, Reform, has now also managed to shoot themselves in the foot with scandals.
Politically, it's hopeless, but faith in the monarchy reduces the risk of civil war and anarchy.We have the US Constitution, term limits (for the President), and the Courts to help prevent such things.the risk of civil war and anarchy.
Our Federal Government has a similar record on lack of success on important issues, such as immigration reform and MUCH more.

(bullets added for clarity)Among other things, the president has falsely claimed that:
- the Canadian public likes the idea of becoming the 51st US state, which is overwhelmingly unpopular with the Canadian public;
- that Canada is one of the world’s highest-tariff countries, though it is actually low in world rankings;
- that Canada prohibits US banks from operating there, though more than a dozen US banks operate in Canada;
- that Canada doesn’t accept US agricultural exports, though Canada is the world’s second-largest purchaser of those exports;
- that Chinese and Russian ships are “constantly surrounding” Canada, though that never happened;
- and that “they don’t, essentially, have a military,” though Canada’s very-much-existent military jointly operates the North American Aerospace Defense Command with the US and fought alongside the US in Afghanistan, against ISIS in the Middle East and in various prior wars.
Trump claimed in a Monday post: “Canada’s Unemployment Rate is now at 10%, and rapidly rising.”
That is wrong on both counts.
Canada’s unemployment rate declined to 6.4% in July. That was the third consecutive month it had gone down. It was also a two-year low.
In one of the Monday posts, Trump claimed of Canada: “Their ridiculously high tariffs on our Farmers and farm products has made life impossible for these great American Patriots, and has long created a 60 Billion Dollar Deficit between our two Countries.”
Here are four issues with that one sentence.
US agricultural trade with Canada is overwhelmingly tariff-free: The US Department of Agriculture notes on its website that “almost all” US agricultural exports to Canada face no tariffs at all; from the late 1980s to late 1990s, the USDA explains, free trade agreements “dismantled virtually all tariff and quota barriers to Canada-U.S. agricultural trade, with a few notable exceptions” on each side. According to World Trade Organization data, about 97% of US agricultural exports to Canada are duty-free.
Canada’s few high agricultural tariffs are rarely applied: Canada does have extremely high tariffs on a small number of agricultural products, notably including dairy and poultry products, that it protects from foreign competition using a system known as supply management. But the hefty tariffs are only applied after the US exports a certain maximum quantity of tariff-free products, and the US isn’t even close to filling its quota maximums on many products. For example, it filled just 22% of its milk quota over the past year, Trevor Tombe, an economics professor at the University of Calgary, noted in an email this week.
“So, it’s true to say that Canada has massive tariffs on certain types of items. But this is only true for a very small subset of agricultural products…And even among those products, we don’t typically ‘charge’ those tariffs because the US doesn’t export enough for the tariffs to kick in,” Tombe said.
The US dairy industry argues that administrative shenanigans by Canada are to blame for the US inability to fill the quotas. Whether that’s true or not, massive Canadian agricultural tariffs clearly haven’t been the cause of the US trade deficit with Canada. Actually…
The US trade deficit with Canada is driven by US imports of Canadian energy: Specifically, the US trade deficit with Canada overwhelmingly exists because the US imports a lot of discounted Canadian crude oil – 3.9 million barrels of Canadian crude per day in 2025. The US imported $111 billion worth of Canadian energy and exported $26 billion of US energy to Canada in 2025, according to the US government’s Energy Information Administration. In other words, if the US didn’t engage in energy trade with Canada, it would have a trade surplus with Canada but its refiners would miss out on cheap energy from a convenient nearby source.
The overall US trade deficit with Canada isn’t ‘$60 billion’: Trump habitually focuses on trade in goods alone – without explaining that’s what he’s doing – and ignores the services trade at which the US excels. The US goods-only deficit with Canada has sometimes exceeded $60 billion; it was about $68 billion in 2024, according to US federal figures. But the US also had a surplus of about $29 billion in services trade with Canada that year, so the overall bilateral deficit was about $38 billion. Again, that’s still substantial, but it’s substantially lower than the number the president used.
When I said "you don't need them", I was referring to a monarchy.jusplay4fun wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2026 10:23 pmOnly ONE US President ran from more that two terms: FDR (Franklin D. Roosevelt) during the Great Depression and then WWII. He was likely DYING as he ran for his 4th term in 1944 and died soon after the Election. George Washington declined to run for a third term, when many wanted to make him, basically, a KING. He set the precedent to limit to TWO four year terms, and the Congress made it OFFICIAL in the 22nd Amendment to the US Constitution in 1951.Apatheist wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2026 8:24 amYou don't need them - but since we have no written constitution or term limits, I think WE do.jusplay4fun wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2026 6:30 amThe US does not need a monarchy to reduce and avoidApatheist wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2026 4:33 am The UK is not politically financially superior - the current (Labour) government is, like its Labour predecessors, economically illiterate, and spends money they don't have on things we don't need (such as free SIM cards for illegal immigrants). Ideology invariably gets in the way of good management.
We had an impasse over Brexit, which Jeremy Corbyn thankfully resolved for us by making himself unelectable, leaving Boris Johnson with a big majority. Boris was then removed over attending a surprise birthday party during lockdown - which was utterly absurd, for him, and the party that removed him.
The remaining hope for dealing with immigration and woke silliness, Reform, has now also managed to shoot themselves in the foot with scandals.
Politically, it's hopeless, but faith in the monarchy reduces the risk of civil war and anarchy.We have the US Constitution, term limits (for the President), and the Courts to help prevent such things.the risk of civil war and anarchy.
Our Federal Government has a similar record on lack of success on important issues, such as immigration reform and MUCH more.
Without this Amendment, I think Trump would seriously consider running for another term.
We need term limits and I think we need them for Senators and Congressmen in the House, too. This is important for the chief executive, such as POTUS and for state Governors; some legislators commend much power in their arenas, for some good and more not good, imo.
I am.Apatheist wrote: Sat Aug 29, 2026 4:32 amWhen I said "you don't need them", I was referring to a monarchy.jusplay4fun wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2026 10:23 pmOnly ONE US President ran from more that two terms: FDR (Franklin D. Roosevelt) during the Great Depression and then WWII. He was likely DYING as he ran for his 4th term in 1944 and died soon after the Election. George Washington declined to run for a third term, when many wanted to make him, basically, a KING. He set the precedent to limit to TWO four year terms, and the Congress made it OFFICIAL in the 22nd Amendment to the US Constitution in 1951.Apatheist wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2026 8:24 amYou don't need them - but since we have no written constitution or term limits, I think WE do.jusplay4fun wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2026 6:30 amThe US does not need a monarchy to reduce and avoidApatheist wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2026 4:33 am The UK is not politically financially superior - the current (Labour) government is, like its Labour predecessors, economically illiterate, and spends money they don't have on things we don't need (such as free SIM cards for illegal immigrants). Ideology invariably gets in the way of good management.
We had an impasse over Brexit, which Jeremy Corbyn thankfully resolved for us by making himself unelectable, leaving Boris Johnson with a big majority. Boris was then removed over attending a surprise birthday party during lockdown - which was utterly absurd, for him, and the party that removed him.
The remaining hope for dealing with immigration and woke silliness, Reform, has now also managed to shoot themselves in the foot with scandals.
Politically, it's hopeless, but faith in the monarchy reduces the risk of civil war and anarchy.We have the US Constitution, term limits (for the President), and the Courts to help prevent such things.the risk of civil war and anarchy.
Our Federal Government has a similar record on lack of success on important issues, such as immigration reform and MUCH more.
Without this Amendment, I think Trump would seriously consider running for another term.
We need term limits and I think we need them for Senators and Congressmen in the House, too. This is important for the chief executive, such as POTUS and for state Governors; some legislators commend much power in their arenas, for some good and more not good, imo.
You should be very grateful that you do have term limits for Presidents!

The ratification of the 22nd Amendment took almost four years. It was proposed by Congress on March 24, 1947, and was ratified on February 27, 1951, after being approved by thirty-six out of forty-eight states.
The ratification of the 25th Amendment took approximately 18 months. It was proposed by Congress on July 6, 1965, and was ratified by the necessary three-fourths of the states by February 10, 1967.
The ratification of the 24th Amendment took approximately 1 year and 5 months.
The amendment was proposed by Congress on August 28, 1962, and ratification was completed on January 23, 1964, when South Dakota became the 38th state to approve it.
btw:The 26th Amendment was ratified in just 100 days. It was proposed by Congress on March 23, 1971, and ratification was completed on July 1, 1971, when North Carolina became the 38th state to approve it. This rapid process remains the fastest for any amendment in U.S. history.
The ratification of the 27th Amendment took 202 years, 7 months, and 12 days. It was proposed on September 25, 1789, and finally ratified on May 7, 1992, making it the longest ratification process in U.S. history

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The filibuster is a legislative tactic used in the U.S. Senate to delay or block a vote on a bill or nomination. It allows one or more senators to prolong debate on a measure, effectively preventing a final vote unless a supermajority agrees to end the debate.
Key Aspects of the Filibuster:
Purpose: The filibuster is intended to protect minority opinions in the Senate by requiring a higher threshold for passing legislation, typically 60 votes out of 100.
Cloture: To end a filibuster, senators can invoke cloture, which requires a petition signed by at least 16 senators and a subsequent vote where 60 senators must agree to end the debate.
