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Of course, because spokesmen for the IDF can be entirely trusted to tell the truth.
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Apatheist wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2026 11:07 am Of course, because spokesmen for the IDF can be entirely trusted to tell the truth.
Yes, I read what you wrote, AND I did acknowledge that in war, the Fog of War, and in other factors, the "Truth" is NOT Always "true" and that the facts to one side may be appear to be not totally accurate or even a bit ambiguous to the other side.

I posted (on the previous page, earlier today) that:
Is it perfect? NO, what is? Are civilians KILLED? yes. Intentionally? NO, not in most cases.
So are you saying that:

1) All IDF statements are false on this matter?

2) All Israeli Government statements in regards to Gaza and Hamas are lies, too?

3) That Hamas is always truthful?

4) Does Palestine need to be FREED? Yes, from Hamas, which has not had Free Elections since when? 2007? almost 20 years now.

5) Is it Genocide of Palestinians in Gaza by IDF NO, pure and simple. It may be intentional sacrifice of Palestinian civilians by Hamas.

6) Is the population of Gaza GROWING? IF so, how can there be a "genocide"? ain't happening. PERIOD.

from AI Summary: has the population of Gaza increased since 2003?
Yes, the overall population of the Gaza Strip has increased significantly since 2003, growing from roughly 1.2 million people in 2003 to over 2.1 million in recent years, despite a small recent decline caused by casualties and displacement during the Israel-Hamas war.
The rapper Macklemore is a LIAR, it seems to me.
Sept. 5 - Macklemore continues his stance for Free Palestine.
The next day, on night two of the New Jersey show, Macklemore mentioned Palestine again, telling the crowd that he “wanted to stand up here on stages and stadiums across America and say two words that are very near and dear to my heart: Free Palestine!”

He then addresses his “Jewish brothers and sisters in the audience,” clarifying that his criticisms towards Israel and apartheid, “being against genocide,” are not a criticism of them. He adds that he wanted the people in Gaza and the West Bank to know they have not been forgotten.
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jusplay4fun wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2026 6:07 am In the meantime, Hamas purposely targeted civilians on October 7. Two-thirds of the Jewish casualties that day were civilians. And there is evidence of massive brutality toward civilians.
This isn't in question.

What is in question is what has happened since then.

The Oct 7th incursion involved brutal attacks on civilians. Agreed. Israel had a right to retaliate. Agreed.

What Nutty Yahoo has done in Gaza goes vastly beyond any level of reasonable retaliation. It is an intentional making of the entire district unlivable. The deliberate destruction of buildings, the steady herding of the civilian population from their homes toward smaller and smaller refugee camps, the denial of shipping from the outside world, are all intentionally genocidal acts.
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AI, has Hamas denounced opposing Israel?

No, Hamas has not denounced opposing Israel. The group’s foundational and core identity remains rooted in active opposition to the State of Israel.

AI, are Hamas and Israel at peace?

Israel and Hamas are not fully at peace, because a U.S.-backed peace and disarmament plan has largely stalled.
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Dukasaur wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2026 3:40 pm
jusplay4fun wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2026 6:07 am In the meantime, Hamas purposely targeted civilians on October 7. Two-thirds of the Jewish casualties that day were civilians. And there is evidence of massive brutality toward civilians.
This isn't in question.

What is in question is what has happened since then.

The Oct 7th incursion involved brutal attacks on civilians. Agreed. Israel had a right to retaliate. Agreed.

What Nutty Yahoo has done in Gaza goes vastly beyond any level of reasonable retaliation. It is an intentional making of the entire district unlivable. The deliberate destruction of buildings, the steady herding of the civilian population from their homes toward smaller and smaller refugee camps, the denial of shipping from the outside world, are all intentionally genocidal acts.
Currently Reading and Learning, from different sources. BUT: Genocide means KILLING, right, Duk?

Destruction of buildings = killing people..??? hmmmm.... :roll:
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Here are two articles that supports what Duk stated very recently:

https://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/l ... sands-risk
Israel blocks crucial supplies from entering Gaza, putting thousands at risk

Restrictions on engine oil and generator parts have delayed aid and dismantled the services people rely on to survive.
also:

Why Is Delivering Aid in Gaza So Difficult?
Delivering humanitarian assistance during an active armed conflict is extraordinarily complex.


Aid entering Gaza must move through border crossings, security inspections, damaged roads, and active combat zones before reaching civilians. Distribution is further complicated by widespread displacement, damaged infrastructure, limited fuel, and the collapse of many local government services.

One of the greatest challenges has been Hamas itself.

Throughout the war, Israel, the United States, and numerous independent observers have documented instances in which Hamas stole, taxed, diverted, or otherwise exploited humanitarian assistance intended for Palestinian civilians. Hamas has also operated within densely populated civilian areas, increasing the risks facing both humanitarian workers and civilians seeking aid.

These realities have forced humanitarian organizations to balance two equally important objectives:

*delivering lifesaving assistance as quickly as possible; and
*reducing the risk that aid strengthens Hamas rather than helping civilians.
There is no perfect system. Every aid mechanism has involved tradeoffs between speed, accessibility, neutrality, security, and accountability. (...)

At the same time, international humanitarian organizations continue to report that many Palestinians remain displaced, homes and public infrastructure have been devastated, and access to food, healthcare, sanitation, and shelter remains uneven throughout Gaza.

The humanitarian situation today reflects both realities.

Aid entering Gaza has increased significantly since the ceasefire, but rebuilding the territory and meeting the needs of millions of civilians will remain an enormous challenge for years to come.

https://www.ajc.org/news/humanitarian-a ... -happening

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jusplay4fun wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2026 6:52 pm
Dukasaur wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2026 3:40 pm
jusplay4fun wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2026 6:07 am In the meantime, Hamas purposely targeted civilians on October 7. Two-thirds of the Jewish casualties that day were civilians. And there is evidence of massive brutality toward civilians.
This isn't in question.

What is in question is what has happened since then.

The Oct 7th incursion involved brutal attacks on civilians. Agreed. Israel had a right to retaliate. Agreed.

What Nutty Yahoo has done in Gaza goes vastly beyond any level of reasonable retaliation. It is an intentional making of the entire district unlivable. The deliberate destruction of buildings, the steady herding of the civilian population from their homes toward smaller and smaller refugee camps, the denial of shipping from the outside world, are all intentionally genocidal acts.
Currently Reading and Learning, from different sources. BUT: Genocide means KILLING, right, Duk?

Destruction of buildings = killing people..??? hmmmm.... :roll:
Genocide:
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
  • Killing members of the group;
  • Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
  • Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
  • Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
  • Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
(https://www.un.org/fr/node/218413)

Are we checking these boxes?

Killing members of the group? Most definitely. At least 70,000 have been killed by Israel since the start of the current Gaza war (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualtie ... e_Gaza_war), including more than 1300 since the bogus "ceasefire". (https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2026/09 ... e-one-year)
Causing serious bodily or mental harm? Yes, near-daily bombing and shooting is pretty serious bodily harm.
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part? Yeah, blowing up people's houses and forcing them into tent cities is pretty deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part. (https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases ... -says-turk)
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group? Touch one to measure, but I'd suspect that the combination of malnutrition and regular bombing and being forced to frequently move from place to place probably increases miscarriages and thus reduces births.
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group? Yes, not common but has happened.
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AI

Hamas remains active in the Gaza Strip. Hamas maintains a military structure despite recent losses, including leadership and operational capabilities.

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Israel's Ambassador

"The one core issue [is] disarmament of Hamas. If Hamas is still in charge over Gaza, there is no hope for Gaza. Whatever money you're going to put there, they're going to take it and transfer it into terror activities," Danon said.

He did add, however, that Israel is preparing for the day when the fighting ends. "We are not waiting for them to disarm. At the same time, we develop those plans. We're getting ready for the day after, but we have to realize that someone, either the IDF, or international forces, someone has to make sure they disarm," Danon concluded.
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Israel is doing a great job of ethnically cleansing the West Bank of Christians and Muslims.

What would Jesus do?




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There is apparently a difference of OPINIONS here. That is healthy and so is a good discussion. This discussion bring attention to this SERIOUS issue and problem; many have died and many have been injured.

What Duk posted has given me reason to stop and consider other viewpoints and new and recent developments.

To try to BLAME ONLY ONE side is ridiculous, don't you think?

And if there is indeed GENOCIDE, would NOT MILLIONS or at least Hundreds of Thousands been killed INTENTIONALLY by the other side? (e.g., SIX MILLION Jews in the Holocaust). Hyperbole is not always a good way to discuss issues. And are not SOME of these deaths of FIGHTERS for Hamas?

Quoting Duk
At least 70,000 have been killed by Israel since the start of the current Gaza war
Further:
Hamas, to confuse and to obfuscate, does NOT distinguish civilian vs. Military casualties. Hamas wants to make it SEEM as if ONLY innocent civilians are killed when this is CLEARLY NOT the case.
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jusplay4fun wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2026 11:40 am There is apparently a difference of OPINIONS here. That is healthy and so is a good discussion. This discussion bring attention to this SERIOUS issue and problem; many have died and many have been injured.

What Duk posted has given me reason to stop and consider other viewpoints and new and recent developments.

To try to BLAME ONLY ONE side is ridiculous, don't you think?
Precisely why I've said all along that neither side has the moral high ground here.
America should be using its power to stop the conflict - rather than start new ones elsewhere.
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Apatheist wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2026 11:43 am
jusplay4fun wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2026 11:40 am There is apparently a difference of OPINIONS here. That is healthy and so is a good discussion. This discussion bring attention to this SERIOUS issue and problem; many have died and many have been injured.

What Duk posted has given me reason to stop and consider other viewpoints and new and recent developments.

To try to BLAME ONLY ONE side is ridiculous, don't you think?
Precisely why I've said all along that neither side has the moral high ground here.
America should be using its power to stop the conflict - rather than start new ones elsewhere.
I have to agree with Apatheist here. Trump has TRIED in this conflict to resolve it, as with Ukraine vs. Putin.
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HitRed wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2026 6:24 am AI

Hamas remains active in the Gaza Strip. Hamas maintains a military structure despite recent losses, including leadership and operational capabilities.

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"The one core issue [is] disarmament of Hamas. If Hamas is still in charge over Gaza, there is no hope for Gaza. Whatever money you're going to put there, they're going to take it and transfer it into terror activities," Danon said.

He did add, however, that Israel is preparing for the day when the fighting ends. "We are not waiting for them to disarm. At the same time, we develop those plans. We're getting ready for the day after, but we have to realize that someone, either the IDF, or international forces, someone has to make sure they disarm," Danon concluded.
That is the Israeli government's official line. Trouble is, nobody believes what they say.

jusplay4fun wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2026 11:40 am There is apparently a difference of OPINIONS here. That is healthy and so is a good discussion. This discussion bring attention to this SERIOUS issue and problem; many have died and many have been injured.

What Duk posted has given me reason to stop and consider other viewpoints and new and recent developments.
Good.
jusplay4fun wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2026 11:40 amTo try to BLAME ONLY ONE side is ridiculous, don't you think?
I don't think anybody has.

If you're referring to me, I think I was pretty clear in my previous post that, especially during the 26 or 27 years between the Khartoum Declaration and the Oslo Accord, the Arabs were definitely the aggressors.

It's the time since then that is worrisome. And even then, all preponderance of blame did not shift immediately.

But you are old enough to remember those days. You should know how on both sides, Arab and Jew, there was such a wave of war fatigue and such a strong desire for peace. The possibility for peace was very real then. Not universal, of course. I'm sure there were many (yes, on both sides!) who were unwilling to let go of their hate and wanted war to continue. But they were definitely in the minority.

One man, Nutty Yahoo, made it his life's mission, to undermine the Oslo Accord and provoke violence and the resumption of war. He wasn't the only one who wanted war, no. But he was the only one who wanted war and had the political cunning to steer his nation in that direction.

You have not tried to refute that, not could you. Nutty Yahoo's own published statements confirm it.
jusplay4fun wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2026 11:40 amAnd if there is indeed GENOCIDE, would NOT MILLIONS or at least Hundreds of Thousands been killed INTENTIONALLY by the other side? (e.g., SIX MILLION Jews in the Holocaust). Hyperbole is not always a good way to discuss issues. And are not SOME of these deaths of FIGHTERS for Hamas?
Of course some of those deaths are Hamas fighters. Did anyone deny this?

Even Hitler generally didn't just shoot Jews wholesale in the street, except in the last year of the war. Until then, the strategy was to pack them into crowded, unsanitary concentration camps, work them hard, keep them cold and malnourished. Let disease and hunger take care of most, only spend money killing the survivors.

That is not much different from what is happening in Gaza. As people are herded out of their homes, the homes are bulldozed behind them, so they have nothing to return to. They are herded into ever smaller and more crowded tent cities, where diseases spread fast and hunger is common. Only a small minority are actually shot; the plan is to let disease and famine take most of them, then deport the remainder once a refuge can be found.
jusplay4fun wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2026 11:40 amQuoting Duk
At least 70,000 have been killed by Israel since the start of the current Gaza war
Further:
Hamas, to confuse and to obfuscate, does NOT distinguish civilian vs. Military casualties. Hamas wants to make it SEEM as if ONLY innocent civilians are killed when this is CLEARLY NOT the case.
No, it is clearly not the case, and it is a strawman argument. I never suggested that "only" innocent civilians are killed, nor, I believe, has anyone else in this thread.

But at least a significant majority of those killed are, in fact, innocent civilians, as well as many of those suffering disease and malnutrition.
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---------------------I like laughing at all the protests on this by College / College students....If only they would teach History/World/U.S.....
--------------------------Those were not military sort of....Killed/captured on October 7th(however, every Jew 16 years old /older is in The Israeli army,as Israel defends itself,surrounded by Arabic countries)....Israel has ever right to wipe all of them out...THEY ATTACKED ISRAEL ON OCTOBER 7th, bringing this all on themselves.....Forget Hitler ,trying to get to a million number....................THE ARABS AND JEWS HAVE BEEN FIGHTING FOR 1,000's OF YEARS.....THERE'S THE MILLIONS ON BOTH SIDES YOU WHERE LOOKING FOR JP4fun......THIS IS JUST PART OF THE SAME OLD ONGOING WAR BETWEEN THEM.......ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON...THE BEST BOOK(History) ON THIS TOPIC............THE BIBLE........Israel smashing Hamas/Gaza.......Is no different....Than Joshua (Taking over from Moses) led the Jews to conquer Canaan (today's Israel/Palestine)...As He wiped out all the people he could....The Arabs took some back.....Most during THE GREAT SULTANS IN HISTORY....BACK and FORTH,and back forth they go....The U.N....should just NUKE the area and be done with both sides once and for all...So The World doesn't have to hear about this land dispute anymore....PEACE ONCE AND FOR ALL(Well pieces ;) )... O:) ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... O:)
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Dukasaur wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2026 7:15 pm
HitRed wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2026 6:24 am AI

Hamas remains active in the Gaza Strip. Hamas maintains a military structure despite recent losses, including leadership and operational capabilities.

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"The one core issue [is] disarmament of Hamas. If Hamas is still in charge over Gaza, there is no hope for Gaza. Whatever money you're going to put there, they're going to take it and transfer it into terror activities," Danon said.

He did add, however, that Israel is preparing for the day when the fighting ends. "We are not waiting for them to disarm. At the same time, we develop those plans. We're getting ready for the day after, but we have to realize that someone, either the IDF, or international forces, someone has to make sure they disarm," Danon concluded.
That is the Israeli government's official line. Trouble is, nobody believes what they say.

jusplay4fun wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2026 11:40 am There is apparently a difference of OPINIONS here. That is healthy and so is a good discussion. This discussion bring attention to this SERIOUS issue and problem; many have died and many have been injured.

What Duk posted has given me reason to stop and consider other viewpoints and new and recent developments.
Good.
jusplay4fun wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2026 11:40 amTo try to BLAME ONLY ONE side is ridiculous, don't you think?
I don't think anybody has.

If you're referring to me, I think I was pretty clear in my previous post that, especially during the 26 or 27 years between the Khartoum Declaration and the Oslo Accord, the Arabs were definitely the aggressors.

It's the time since then that is worrisome. And even then, all preponderance of blame did not shift immediately.

But you are old enough to remember those days. You should know how on both sides, Arab and Jew, there was such a wave of war fatigue and such a strong desire for peace. The possibility for peace was very real then. Not universal, of course. I'm sure there were many (yes, on both sides!) who were unwilling to let go of their hate and wanted war to continue. But they were definitely in the minority.

One man, Nutty Yahoo, made it his life's mission, to undermine the Oslo Accord and provoke violence and the resumption of war. He wasn't the only one who wanted war, no. But he was the only one who wanted war and had the political cunning to steer his nation in that direction.

You have not tried to refute that, not could you. Nutty Yahoo's own published statements confirm it.
jusplay4fun wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2026 11:40 amAnd if there is indeed GENOCIDE, would NOT MILLIONS or at least Hundreds of Thousands been killed INTENTIONALLY by the other side? (e.g., SIX MILLION Jews in the Holocaust). Hyperbole is not always a good way to discuss issues. And are not SOME of these deaths of FIGHTERS for Hamas?
Of course some of those deaths are Hamas fighters. Did anyone deny this?

Even Hitler generally didn't just shoot Jews wholesale in the street, except in the last year of the war. Until then, the strategy was to pack them into crowded, unsanitary concentration camps, work them hard, keep them cold and malnourished. Let disease and hunger take care of most, only spend money killing the survivors.

That is not much different from what is happening in Gaza. As people are herded out of their homes, the homes are bulldozed behind them, so they have nothing to return to. They are herded into ever smaller and more crowded tent cities, where diseases spread fast and hunger is common. Only a small minority are actually shot; the plan is to let disease and famine take most of them, then deport the remainder once a refuge can be found.
Let us deal with this POINT, for starters:

If Gaza is the same as the Genocide against the SIX Million Jews killed in WWII, where are
1) the Concentration Camps?
2) Gas Chambers?
3) mass graves containing the bodies and ashes of victims?

AND

4) Foreign entities are allowed to go into Gaza to help with food, supplies, and medical attention, RIGHT?

And Doctors without Borders (or the Red Cross, during WWII) were admitted to help victims of war and destruction in concentration camps? They are allowed into Gaza. Gaza has working hospitals, right? Sure, there are not enough and supplies are critically low; there are issues with fuel and parts for electric generators for them, too, as I posted earlier?

It is possible that the level of destruction is excessive by the IDF.

Free Palestine, of Hamas.

and what is Palestine? an independent nation? NOT likely:

from AI Summary:
There has never been a fully sovereign state called Palestine. While the term "Palestine" has historical significance and is used to refer to the territories of the West Bank and Gaza Strip, it has not existed as an independent, recognized country in the modern sense. The Palestinian Liberation Organization declared a State of Palestine in 1988, which is recognized by many countries, but it lacks full sovereignty and control over its territories.

Historically, the region has been governed by various empires and states, but never as an independent Arab nation
more, also from AI:
The name "Palestine" has a complex origin rooted in ancient history. It derives from the Latin "Palestina," which was used to refer to a Roman province. This, in turn, comes from the Greek "Palaistinē," as noted by Herodotus. The Greek term is believed to be linked to the Hebrew word "Pelesheth," meaning "Philistia" or the land of the Philistines
Palestine has been and is a region, but a nation, not in the real sense.

and a bit of History, also from AI:
After Israel's declaration of independence on May 14, 1948, neighboring Arab states, including Egypt, Jordan, Syria, and Iraq, intervened militarily, leading to the 1948 Arab-Israeli War. These states sought to support the Palestinian Arabs and oppose the establishment of Israel, but they did not establish a unified governance structure for the Arab population in the region
The Arab states never set up a government for the Arabs in the Region of Palestine. There was NO Palestine nation.

Free Palestine, of Hamas oppressors.

and during the establishment if the Nation of Israel, in 1948, how many Arab people left Israel?
According to United Nations figures, 726,000 Palestinians had fled or were expelled by the Israelis between 1947 and 1949.[13] The precise number of refugees, many of whom settled in refugee camps in neighboring states, is a matter of dispute[14] but around 80 percent of the Arab inhabitants of what became Israel (half of the Arab total of Mandatory Palestine) left or were expelled from their homes.[15][16]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_o ... 93present)

And the number of these people DECLINED, as would happen during a Genocide? NO. It is difficult to more than double a population during a Genocide, Duk. There are now over 2 MILLION LIVING in Gaza today.

As for Mookie, I cite my sources, that you and other deride as merely "cut and paste." I can, with my cited facts, paint a more complete picture and not present only a cursory one. I use the facts to SUPPORT my views; they do not FORM my views. I speak from Authority, and I give FACTS, that I cite; and others make up their own "facts" with NO citation(s). Such things are thus merely OPINIONS, not facts.

Free Palestine of their Hamas oppressors.
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With murder, it's not how, it's how many. It doesn't matter if there are concentration camps or not. That's just deflecting from the issue.
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Please start a different thread for this. As I've said, if you do, I won't trample all over it, you can post to your heart's content.
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-------------NO THIS BELONGS IN THIS THREAD..............NO ONE GIVES TRUMP CREDIT FOR BRINGING PEACE IN THAT AREA...FOR THE MOST PART....YES, TRUMP....IF PEOPLE DIDN'T STOP HATING HIM BECAUSE OF HIS NAME........THEY WOULD SEE........HE SHOULD OF BEEN GIVING THE NOBLE PEACE PRIZE HIS 1st TERM......Bringing countries like Saudi Arabia , making peace with Israel.......Less war....MORE OIL :!: :!: :!: ........HE BROUGHT PEACE THROUGH,money,economics....THAT HAD NEVER BEEN TRIED BEFORE..............PEOPLE WITH TDS JUST CAN'T/WON'T SEE THAT :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:
-------------------I gave the reason for the fighting.....IT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR 1,000's OF YEARS..........PERSIA(IRAN).....WANTS IT TO CONTINUE...
---------------------THAT'S ALL PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW........Colleges won't teach real stuff...JUST WOKE CRAP...........IN AMERICAN SCHOOLS(Grade/High).......THEY DON'T EVEN TEACH THE WAR BETWEEN THE STATES.......Because it might hurt someone's feelings........BOO WOO....AMERICA HAS BECOME A BUNCH OF P*SSIES :roll: :roll: :roll:
... O:) ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... O:) ...In 2020A.D....I wrote letters to all Republicans in The Southern States...House and Senate...State and Federal.............SEN. TOM COTTON OF ARKANSAS ......Was the only one to write me back.....He confirmed there...It hadn't been taught for over 20 years...WOW!!!!!!
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Hitred's adoration is of Jesus, not Trump. I wasn't answering you, Confed.
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--------------NOTHING TO DO WITH HITRED'S POST..........I WAS JUST STATING FACTS........TRUMP IS A PART OF ISRAEL and THE MIDDLE EAST'S CONFLICTS......WHEN THE USA FINALLY GETS REVENGE FOR KEEPING AMERICAN HOSTAGE FOR 444 DAYS,IN A WAR IRAN STARTED WITH AMERICA ALMOST 50 YEARS AGO......THERE WILL BE PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST FOR THE 1st TIME IN 1,000's of YEARS.... =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> .........ALL THANKS TO TRUMP :!: :!: :!: 8-) .........ALSO ON HOW F*CKED UP COLLEGES/ALL SCHOOLS ARE IN AMERICA :!: :!: :!: ... O:) ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... O:)
-----------------TRUMP'S SON IN LAW IS JEWISH...AND HIS GRANDCHILDREN....... :!: :!: :!:
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What about the CIA actions in Iran in 1953...which eventually led to our embassy being taken over in Tehran in 1979?



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September 26, 26 Adoration

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I call you and you do not come. I speak and you do not listen. Why must you weary the Lord God of heaven and earth. Why do you steal what is not yours? Taking from others what is not yours goes against my commands. Hurting one another hurts the Lord God who created each and every soul. You hurt one of my creations and thereby hurt me. Stop sinning and turn to me, the Christ.
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Apatheist wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2026 8:15 am With murder, it's not how, it's how many. It doesn't matter if there are concentration camps or not. That's just deflecting from the issue.
There is NO Genocide NOR Deflection.

Free Palestine, of Hamas terrorists, dictators, and murderers, who have not had elections since 2006 when they took over Gaza.

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The last election in Gaza occurred on January 25, 2006. This was a parliamentary election in which Hamas won a significant majority, securing 76 out of 132 seats in the Palestinian Legislative Council. Since then, there have been no further elections for either the legislature or the presidency.
Was it ConfedSs who was talking about elections recently?
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Iran’s currency fell to a new record low on Tuesday with traders in Tehran exchanging more than 2.5 million rials to the US dollar.
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