Blackpool Manor Dinner: Poached Haddock (D2)

[Loose Canon]

But Hjelp, I always have had Ragian down as a pro-lyncher D1 so his stance on not liking lynching blind is at odds with what I thought his customary stance was.

[Ragian]

I am a pro-lyncher, damnit. Did you not read what I said? Don't make it out as if I didn't explain why I don't really like lynching now. You're conflating or getting things mixed up or deliberately painting me as a villain. And if you're going to paint me as a villain in this game, surely I'm the Secretary. The Patron would have no problem lynching (knowing who the Secretary is). The Secretary, however, would probably advise against lynching lest they'd accidentally hit the Patron.

Yes, I'm pro lynching. I don't adhere to the "we should let power roles sort this out because I'm uncomfortable butting heads"-camp. Lynching D1 has loads of advantages for town. Not all of them are immediately evident, but some are. You get on the front foot as town, you establish voting records, and you get a claim or two to establish the setup. I'm very much for lynching D1. However! And this is important for all you cherrypicking buggers. I like PRESSURING people that don't participate enough, but I do not like LYNCHING them because essentially it's a gamble. The mod shold deal with people not participating.

Therefore, when I'm saying that I'm not comfortable lynching D1 in this game, I'm saying that there are four players (what's that, a third of the game?) that has given no indication of where they lean or why. Lynching either of them would be to lynch blind.

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I don't see the case on Charle other than he was looking for clues at some point. If you force my hand - my voting hand - I'll be voting for hjelp as of right now.

[Loose Canon]

Yes Hjelp is suspicious - as secretary

Yes Charle is suspicious - as patron, as having been premeditated in his attacks on Homer, as volume appearance posting his recipe for Mulligatawny, as self voting and unself voting, as doing nothing whatsoever house helpful today as far as I can see.

Yes King is suspicious - for absence and therefore doing nothing

Yes actually quite a few players have some suspicions on them as secretary.

I was just saying that Hjelp had a point when he called you out.
I don't overall think you warrant a vote though Ragian because I see points of comfort in your allegiance which outweigh my points of suspicion in you.

We should lynch D1 though and because such a lot of time has been spent / diverted yes by Hjelp to the largest (but not exclusive) extent time in non social deduction stuff we are fast running out of time.
I actually would join a Hjelp lynch at this point but I see it as aiming for secretary and I think we have to get Patron asap.

[Loose Canon]

Loose and Ragian frown at each other for what seems like hours.
Loose cannot keep it up and tries sticking his tongue out.
Ragians frown just intensifies.

[hjelp]

More likely to be other way round if those are the pair you suspect. Bold bordering on reckless to recruit charle dont you think?

The Secretary was pointed at pre-start.

[hjelp]

@ Ragian

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Therefore, when I'm saying that I'm not comfortable lynching D1 in this game, I'm saying that there are four players (what's that, a third of the game?) that has given no indication of where they lean or why. Lynching either of them would be to lynch blind.

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I don't see the case on Charle other than he was looking for clues at some point. If you force my hand - my voting hand - I'll be voting for hjelp as of right now.

Interesting reaction to what I posted regarding my two now primary suspects - Ragian and Charle.
So if one says, this is my suspect, then immediately one gets that my suspect Ragian wants to vote me for a lynch. That strengthen my suspicioun on you Ragian to be Circle and also The Patron.

[Loose Canon]

So assuming sonics clock is accurate we have 1 day and 1 hour roughly as i post this.

I hate drugs and aside from feeling nauseous from weed on less than a handful of occasions wouldnt usually partake (except for nicotind) but i think some Charlie is called for.
As ive chainvaped my time (when not posting) in this ramshackle house, i dont suppose there is a usb here is there sonic?
And dont say there's no electricity - what does your digital timer run off of? Eh got you there sonic havent i eh?

[Ragian]

@ Ragian

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Therefore, when I'm saying that I'm not comfortable lynching D1 in this game, I'm saying that there are four players (what's that, a third of the game?) that has given no indication of where they lean or why. Lynching either of them would be to lynch blind.

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I don't see the case on Charle other than he was looking for clues at some point. If you force my hand - my voting hand - I'll be voting for hjelp as of right now.

Interesting reaction to what I posted regarding my two now primary suspects - Ragian and Charle.
So if one says, this is my suspect, then immediately one gets that my suspect Ragian wants to vote me for a lynch. That strengthen my suspicioun on you Ragian to be Circle and also The Patron.

Interesting misinformation or, perhaps, lack of memory. Go back to page nine of this game where I first voiced my suspicion of you. Don't think it's just appeared. However, you don't seem to acknowledge the fact that the patron would be happy to lynch. Your entire - whatever this is - hinges on me being the Patron AND Charle being the Secretary because if I were indeed the Patron, the only person I wouldn't want to lynch would be my newly appointed Secretary (unless a Patron plays the long game and lynched one's own Secretary in order to coast for a good deal of the rest of the game). Any other lynch, I'd be happy to dive into if I were the Patron. Especially since it ties in with my prolynching D1 stance in general. Surely, Mr. Math, you'd agree that it's highly unlikely that you've stumbled upon both Patron and Secretary. And I know you have to stick to your guns now, so getting you to agree to that would be as futile as a town on town fight with Son!c, but at least all of this makes me more suspicious of you than I were when I just was suspicious of you for playing Cluedo.

Hjelp is by far the most suspicious character to me. Vote hjelp

@Loose, let me humour you here. You think hjelp is bad, but you think he might be the Patron. Why wouldn't you want to lynch him?

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Also, if you stick your tongue out, you better be prepared for dessert.

[hjelp]

@ Ragian

@Ragian

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Therefore, when I'm saying that I'm not comfortable lynching D1 in this game, I'm saying that there are four players (what's that, a third of the game?) that has given no indication of where they lean or why. Lynching either of them would be to lynch blind.

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I don't see the case on Charle other than he was looking for clues at some point. If you force my hand - my voting hand - I'll be voting for hjelp as of right now.

Interesting reaction to what I posted regarding my two now primary suspects - Ragian and Charle.
So if one says, this is my suspect, then immediately one gets that my suspect Ragian wants to vote me for a lynch. That strengthen my suspicioun on you Ragian to be Circle and also The Patron.

Interesting misinformation or, perhaps, lack of memory. Go back to page nine of this game where I first voiced my suspicion of you. Don't think it's just appeared. However, you don't seem to acknowledge the fact that the patron would be happy to lynch. Your entire - whatever this is - hinges on me being the Patron AND Charle being the Secretary because if I were indeed the Patron

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Hjelp is by far the most suspicious character to me. Vote hjelp

@Loose, let me humour you here. You think hjelp is bad, but you think he might be the Patron. Why wouldn't you want to lynch him?

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You say "... the fact that the patron would be happy to lynch ..." - that's what I commented you were prepared to do regarding I suspected you. And now you follow up by the vote. And you are enforcing for a lynch of me pushing for Loose to join. You will be the first on a wagon and that's perfect for a Patron, and you don't want to jump on the Charle wagon. Is it because you think that Charle actually can be the one you pointed at ?

Regarding you and Charle - I followed sthe annieh 2/3 full drinking glass - confirmed by SoN!c - and then connected it to the pre-drikning - you full glass and Charle sip (slip) glass SoN!c post (except for the wording sip as slip) that's all. And I found that stronger then Devante on the photo and the lady on the left.

[hjelp]

than ...

[annieh]

Ragian, same ragian who pointed out the possibility of me having previous female husbands, is the same ragian that has no issue with Charle? Same charle who said secretaries must be female, then failed to count to three?

Ragian, you saw "homer is quiet", saw "odds are far fetched", saw the secretary argument, and still think Charle is worth sparing on a day 1 lynch, as a claimed vanilla?

Make it make sense.

[HottBunnie]

I guess Charle says there is proof of his claim early on, then why put a vote on yourself, lets see if he really wants to vote himself out, how close will he let it get. rn its been a lot to try to prove his innocence to us so I:
Vote Cha Cha Cha Charle

[HottBunnie]

Oh i just double checked I guess he already removed the vote on himself which almost makes him more sus to me

[HottBunnie]

fp/same time pist by Annie

[annieh]

I'm really thrown off by homer and rags both saying no major problems with Charle's gameplay.

[Loose Canon]

Hey rags, hey homer, its much more fun over here with the girls.

Just saying...

[SoN!c]

Official vote count

Kong: 1 by Hjelp
Charle: 3 by Loose Canon, Annieh and Hottbunnie
Loose Canon: 1 by Charle
Hjelp: 1 by Ragian

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch!

First course (the mulligatawny) ends under 24 hours:

Spoiler

https://countingdownto.com/w4/first-cou ... -soup-og79

[hjelp]

If Charle flips Circle then kongming probably flips House. And if Charle flips House then kongming probably flips Circle as I see it.

Unvote kongming
Vote Charle

[Loose Canon]

Zulu, katy, how do you feel about partaking in your first lynching or mislynching?

Kong it wont be your first lynching - might be your first mislynching -I cant remember?

What better company for a first time experience though.

[SoN!c]

Official vote count


Charle: 4* by Loose Canon, Annieh, Hottbunnie and Hjelp
Loose Canon: 1 by Charle
Hjelp: 1 by Ragian

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch!

First course (the mulligatawny) ends under 16 hours:

Spoiler

https://countingdownto.com/w4/first-cou ... -soup-og79

*Charle is now at L-3 meaning he needs just 3 more votes to be lynched. It is customary to claim your role at L-2.

[katyssis]

Vote Charle

[Ragian]

@annieh, I'll be completely honest with you. I don't look at the clues part of this game. I just don't. The thing is that you can go look for clues and you can get thumbs up from Son!c if you get something right, but in my experience it takes away focus more than it helps. I like mafia. Second of all, if you go to page nine as I urged hjelp to do, too, I have already voiced concerns about Charle. My major concern was that he was busy looking for clues rather than playing mafia. Now everyone is doing it.

I'll strike you guys a deal:
I'll hammer Charle if you investigate the following: If Charle flips town, who on the lynch train is dirty? And why? If Charle flips scum (I'd reckon he'd flip Patron rather than Secretary), who do you think he's in cahoots with?

[SoN!c]

Official vote count


Charle: 5* by Loose Canon, Annieh, Hottbunnie, Hjelp and Katyssis
Loose Canon: 1 by Charle
Hjelp: 1 by Ragian

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch!

First course (the mulligatawny) ends under 12 hours:

Spoiler

https://countingdownto.com/w4/first-cou ... -soup-og79

*Charle is at L-2.

[homer_jay]

I'm really thrown off by homer and rags both saying no major problems with Charle's gameplay.

i didn't say i don't have problems with his game play. just am not totally sold on him. but.. i am sold by LC and rag on the benefits of a D1 lynch in this format. down to 11 hours now, so i'll push him to L-1 and see what happens overnight here

Vote Charle

Why is Bunnie trying to deflect accusations by insinuating that some players have posted only 4 times?

she wasn't deflecting or insinuating anything. she gave straight facts that do paint some people as either shady or.. well, a fancy dinner isn't the place to call someone useless.. so let's just leave it at shady.

[Loose Canon]

Zulu wave that spear you found along with the loincloth you found lying around at the bottom of a dusty Blackpool Manor wardrobe - not blaming you for culturally missappropriating the spear - thats on Sonic. The blacking up bit that is on you though my friend.