Blackpool Manor Dinner: Poached Haddock (D2)

[Ragian]

Online time issues. I'm starting a new job as of Monday. I apologise if my participation dwindles. I'd hate for that to ruin the game.

@Son!c, do you have any subs lined up?

[SoN!c]

No, because then Kingm and Kong had been subbed..

[Loose Canon]

Hjelp its up to charle to clarify what he knew about his role and when.

100% town/house and no special powers were in the same post by charle.
So IF charle knew he was heir at that point he shouldnt have posted "no special powers"
And IF charle didnt know he was heir at that point, you hjelp have apparently somehow picked up on charle claiming heir when he didnt know it himself!
(I take it you are not claiming psychic are you hjelp?)

And you still did not get it. In that exact same claim, was proof that at that stage i was just a simple vanilla house guest. You are so guilty Loose!

Guys, you need to vote Loose for the Lynch, if he has a different role than what I was before I knew I was heir, then it is time to get him to claim.

And Charle you still didnt correct and claim later in D1 when you then found out you were the heir.

But somehow or somewhat opportunistically Hjelp jumped onto your attack on me;
Picking up the 100% bit (anyone can claim they are 100% anything particularly vanilla)
Not noticing the no special powers bit (in the same post)
Somehow deducing from your post that you were claiming heir when you didn't at that stage know it yourself

I'd really like to lynch Charle again.

Nevertheless and despite me thinking that if Hjelp is circle aligned and was so on D1 it is about 65% he is secretary not patron
vote hjelp

[hjelp]

No, because then Kingm and Kong had been subbed..

Maybe try an AI to play ? but then you will have to paste after each day the conversation made in this thread ??

I don't like AI but it could be an alternative to try ?

[Ragian]

I really hope AI can't replace me. If it can, consider me out of mafia forever.

[Ragian]

Interesting development. A vote on hjelp by Loose, who's under fire from Charle (and somewhat from Katy). Devante is scrutinised by the lasses, while homer and I have had a lovers' spat. It's good development. I wonder if I should pay that Devante thing some more attention. Did he charm me with his steady farmhand yesterday? If not, I'm mostly suspicious of homer and hjelp. And anyone else whose handle starts with an h.

[Loose Canon]

Im wondering about devante too, female intuition might trump my d1 reason for not suspecting him then. I opted not to vote him partly because i see reason that might counter some of bunnys. But i want to see how dev plays things for himself so havent aired that reasoning.
Also i think charle whilst completely wrong has unwittingly prompted hjelp to go wrong, whether innocently wrong or guiltily wrong i dont know.
Also annie got involved and that has put her on my radar somewhat too.

Re katy its good to turn up the heat on players myself included. Would be better if more reasoning was supplied to go along with general suspicion
Same goes to zulu.

[hjelp]

@ Loose

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Also i think charle whilst completely wrong has unwittingly prompted hjelp to go wrong, whether innocently wrong or guiltily wrong i dont know.
...

How can Charle being wrong about his claim House an you still can't see how. And how can I be wrong since I have argued for kongming from the start.
What is interesting though is that you said you was thinking if there is a 3P.
And the most interested in finding a 3P is (Mafia) which is Circle in this setting. This will then be the second indication that you are Circle.

[SoN!c]

Deadline is not this friday but like predicted the next.. nevertheless town is in a dire spot. With 3 circle members alive and just 10 in total alive + that includes one voteless townie (charle) town will need all 6 town votes to win..

Strange not one townie did the math so a town divided will need to come together...

A mislynch D2 = CIRCLE WINS!

[SoN!c]

For those of you that are town: A mislynch D2 = CIRCLE WINS! AKA Circle wins! You get it?


If you don't get it after this (you know) : town loses!

Town needs all hands on deck or face the...

[Loose Canon]

@ Loose

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Also i think charle whilst completely wrong has unwittingly prompted hjelp to go wrong, whether innocently wrong or guiltily wrong i dont know.
...

How can Charle being wrong about his claim House an you still can't see how. And how can I be wrong since I have argued for kongming from the start.
What is interesting though is that you said you was thinking if there is a 3P.
And the most interested in finding a 3P is (Mafia) which is Circle in this setting. This will then be the second indication that you are Circle.

WTF Charle was/is completely wrong about me being Circle.
You went wrong when D2 you "said" you deduced D1 that Charle was Heir - from 100% Town/house and no special powers

As for the 3P point I had first of all speculated that the significance of Propper with the double P in the middle might signify 2 (rival faction) Patrons. Then later I speculated that the misspelling of propper could be the 3 P's in it signifying a Third Party. And I then misspeculated that any such Third Party would probably be a Minion type Circle win condition aligned. As it turned out there was a Third Party - Kong who was a Serial Killer and so not aligned to either House or Circle. So that is no second indication whatsoever that I am Circle aligned.

And I have been focussing on Patron not Secretary or 3P in this game which is why I didn't add to pressure on you D1.

And anyway who has done more speculation/bluster/confusion spreading about game set up in this game Hjelp - you or me?

[Loose Canon]

Deadline is not this friday but like predicted the next.. nevertheless town is in a dire spot. With 3 circle members alive and just 10 in total alive + that includes one voteless townie (charle) town will need all 6 town votes to win..

Strange not one townie did the math so a town divided will need to come together...

A mislynch D2 = CIRCLE WINS!

Don't quite get that;

If 6 house 3 circle currently
Mislynch D2 takes us to 5 house 3 circle
Circle kill takes us to 4 house 3 circle (circle can't be >3)
Lynch Patron D3 takes us to 4 House 2 Circle and Circle can't recruit without Patron
So Circle kills N3 takes us to 3 House 2 Circle
House correctly lynches D4 takes us to 3 House 1 Circle
Circle Kills N4 takes us to 2 House 1 Circle
House correctly Lynches D5 and wins

Yes a mislynch D2 makes it very difficult for House to win but not impossible unless I am misreading the Patron and Secretary invitation cards disclosed pregame?

Also what I don't quite get is that the N1 recruit would know who the Patron and Secretary are - otherwise would be a replacement Secretary- but I will now have to assume that because Sonic has said what he has said that Replacement Secretary/ Undersecretary and so fully part of the circle is what they are.

So with that being said there is a strong reason for an Archivist to come forwards and offer up whatever they claim to know about guilt and maybe innocence
Katy and Zulu cannot have been patron or secretary D1
Therefore 2 out of 7 for sure and perhaps 3 out of 7 are Circle
But remember circle have had 2 chances already to recruit archivist so an archivist claim would have to be considered in context of who it was and therefore how confident we are that not recruited.

[SoN!c]

The reason there is a need for a 3P serial killer by design is usually for balance...

One 3P and 1 townie resigning mid game is just a cluster f*ck of fucking up the game..

That is why the narrator says: town needs to get together....

FP bu Looose

[annieh]

I think the time has come to share some important information. You see, between courses I found my way to the building's archives. Many women in my family have been librarians and for a long while I did the same.

I set myself to searching the deeds, the albums, the employee records and I did indeed find something very interesting.

A photo of a man standing beside a horse holding a trophy. On the trophy was written, "Blackpool Manor Breeders Club Prettiest Horse Award." And what was that horse's name, you ask?

LIL DEVANTE!

And who signed the certificate as president of the BMBC?

Devante himself!

I know with full certainty that the house should vote Devante out with immediacy.

VOTE DEVANTE

[SoN!c]

"Mislynch D2 takes us to 5 house 3 circle"

Mislynch = you lynch House right?

So that night 3 circle are alive and they kill one House...

The next day 3 Circe are alive? Yes or no? But only 9 players alive.. (6 House).

With 9 alive it takes 5 to Lynch...(but 3 are Circle)

It means town needs to vote unanimously all the time and that rarely happens...

"So with that being said there is a strong reason for an Archivist to come forwards and offer up whatever they claim to know about guilt and maybe innocence"

FP by Annieh

[SoN!c]

I think the time has come to share some important information. You see, between courses I found my way to the building's archives. Many women in my family have been librarians and for a long while I did the same.

I set myself to searching the deeds, the albums, the employee records and I did indeed find something very interesting.

A photo of a man standing beside a horse holding a trophy. On the trophy was written, "Blackpool Manor Breeders Club Prettiest Horse Award." And what was that horse's name, you ask?

LIL DEVANTE!

And who signed the certificate as president of the BMBC?

Devante himself!

I know with full certainty that the house should vote Devante out with immediacy.

VOTE DEVANTE

Sorry This is too Funny! Oohh Annieh you are...

[Loose Canon]

So is this aclaim of archivist Annie, and that you got a guilty result on Devante?

[Loose Canon]

If so I'm figuratively on my knees - will you marry me?

[SoN!c]

In annieh’s post, the narrator believes she claims she found a photo in the manor’s archives of a man with a horse. The trophy the horse is holding is inscribed:“Blackpool Manor Breeders Club Prettiest Horse Award.”She then refers to it by the initials "BMBC" when saying Devante signed the certificate as its president... The horse’s name on the award is “LIL DEVANTE.”... because "LIL DEVANTE" SAID "HELLO FUTURE WIVES!!"..

[Loose Canon]

I'd still like Annie to respond to my proposal though at least though.

- as well as confirming this is a claim ideally.

Who knows Sonic - this dark, wet, and dreary Blackpool Manor could be hosting the first ever conquer club wedding - hel I'll even take out a massive life insirance policy on myself with Annie the sole beneficiary.

I'll show good faith.

Unvote Hjelp Vote Devante

[annieh]

So is this aclaim of archivist Annie, and that you got a guilty result on Devante?

That is exactly what I'm saying.

And thank Bunny. My instincts can tend to be bad, if not for her hunch, who knows who I would have investigated.

I insist any further marriage proposals wait at least until the champagne comes out.

Sonic, the man was holding the trophy. Horses don't have hands, you should know that.

[SoN!c]

official vote count

Devante : 3 by Hott Bunnie, Annieh and Loose Canon


With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch! (but 1 voteless townie and 3 Circle)

[HottBunnie]

* Bunny not really paying attention to everybody after having said her peace mostly focused on eating this lovely meal. Until she heard it was made by a poisoner who we can only assume meant to poison all of us but then awkwardly or mistakenly drank the glass with the poison for himself! What kind of dinner party is this people are dying everywhere if I wasn’t so high and drunk right now I’d probably be more into escaping than playing as if I’m in scary movie. With this news she half choked half coughed at some of the haddock she was in the process of eating…*

Vindicated!!!! * she shouts after hearing from the news about little Devante from the archives*
So Devante is also here to kill us. It seems like no matter where I go people are dying around here or trying to hunt people down. Just what kind of dinner party is this you guys?
*having heard kong was poisoned she rushes to the kitchen to help alas nothing could be done he died too quietly and body left too long alone for there to be any Hope*
Oh no he really is dead
* She looks across the room and sees king also on the floor, thinks to herself ‘well nothing could be done there either I suppose’, mind you when he was dying she was still a bit miffed after the whole devante thing… finding nothing of value in the kitchen she returns to the dinner to see Devante attempting to walk away so she stands in the doorway and looks him right in the eye*

So what really brought you here after all Dev? And who are you working with? Was I maybe right about you going out to recruit Katyssis after so unceremoniously proposing to both me and Annie with nothing to show for it but a bald spot on your head?

I think the score has been made clear now. With no saving grace for miss lycning as sonic clearly stated our only option is to do the right thing and vote for Devante here. I can’t see any remaining reason to object to it.

[hjelp]

@ Loose

So is this aclaim of archivist Annie, and that you got a guilty result on Devante?

That is exactly what I'm saying.

And thank Bunny. My instincts can tend to be bad, if not for her hunch, who knows who I would have investigated.

I insist any further marriage proposals wait at least until the champagne comes out.

Sonic, the man was holding the trophy. Horses don't have hands, you should know that.

You ask for things and when you get them then you dismiss them - as in the Charlie claim. You need a pair of glasses - or do you want to be cartain of that annieh is the archivist - that is why you double check - so that you can kill annieh N2 ?

[annieh]

(strategy aside) I am weirdly flattered that Sonic would think I'm funny enough to come up with the horse holding a trophy before he would think I'm dumb enough to construct a sentence poorly. (◕‿◕✿)