StarCraft

lduke1990 · Post by **lduke1990** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:03 pm

Somebody said that the Protoss mothership in SC2 is the be all and end all, and I said, no that is Jesus Christ

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:33 pm

God I hate the mothership.

Anarchy Ninja · Post by **Anarchy Ninja** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:51 pm

Mothership... Reminds me of the Scrin on CC3 except there mothship is super slow and it's beam reminds of independence day.

On topic- Protoss are the best and from memory some zerg creations appeared disturbingly phailic

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:52 pm

Anarchy Ninja wrote:Mothership... Reminds me of the Scrin on CC3 except there mothship is super slow and it's beam reminds of independence day.

On topic- Protoss are the best and from memory some zerg creations appeared disturbingly phailic

Zerg were my favorites by far. The way they spawned was so cool and different from the other two races.

Anarchy Ninja · Post by **Anarchy Ninja** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:55 pm

Plus they could bury thats always amusing when someone marches into rows of burried hydralisks

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:57 pm

Anarchy Ninja wrote:Plus they could bury thats always amusing when someone marches into rows of burried hydralisks

I always stacked my zerglings like id always burrow them in the same place so when they popped out it would be a frenzy

Jehan · Post by **Jehan** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:11 pm

lduke1990 wrote:Somebody said that the Protoss mothership in SC2 is the be all and end all, and I said, no that is Jesus Christ

well i said it wouldn't be the be all and end all, because that seemed to be what people were suggesting, without even knowing what all the units in the game are, or even how much the mothership costs.

GreecePwns · Post by **GreecePwns** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:08 am

I saw the 22-minute developer walkthrough thing, and all they showed was a bunch of Toss being stacked with the new units like Colossus(eh? maybe) and Immortal(good) and Mothership(bad) thing, and all i saw in Zerg was the Banelings. They have to think of a bunch of new units for the other two before they ever release it. Also, I like the ability to select an unlimited # of units instead of 12 at a time. That pissed me off so much. The Baneling thing sounds like fun.

About strategy, I use terrans a lot, with a wall of tanks and bunkers and turrets ouside my choke points. It always works. And for attacks, I use 1 group wraiths, 1 groups goliaths, and 1 group BC.

And Fastest map blows. Never ever play it, EVER! Hunters and LT FTW

Gr[E]ece @ US-East and GreecePwns @ Europe (just started US-East since most of my friends and cousins play there too)

Dmunster · Post by **Dmunster** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:50 am

Neutrino wrote:
DirtyDishSoap wrote:Exactly, the f*ck is a point in putting a unit that pwns everything?
You obviously wern't playing very well if you couldn't take down an unsupported Baneblade.

The Relic units are designed in some cases to absorb firepower (the close combat ones) and in some cases to produce it (the ranged ones). What they are not meant to do is become a 1 man army.

DirtyDishSoap wrote:
And another thing...How the hell do flags give you resources? kind of half assed idea was that?

Because DoW is about the strategy and combat rather than resource collecting. Hell, resource collecting dosen't even fit in with the W:40K universe; troops are trained and tanks produced far, far away on planets dedicated to manufacturing for the war effort. Having some guy go out and mine some crystals dosen't really fit that.

Well put. Good luck actuially producing a relic unit with IG anyway. They are so underpowered its silly. I can take most IG players out in Tier 1.5 or 2 with Eldar or SM.

lduke1990 · Post by **lduke1990** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:16 pm

Charkling rush FTEW.

with that out of the way, the funniest thing I ever saw was a line of Dark Templars at a choke point, the one guy sent in what appeared to be an entire food limits worth of Hydralisks and they got OWNED. then he tried it with ultralisks and they just sort of died, then he got cannoned out.

RAMB0.36 · Post by **RAMB0.36** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:25 pm

i love that gfame and play it evry day
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my user name is bobjky

lduke1990 · Post by **lduke1990** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:27 pm

great... probly (sp) the most meaningless post since the DoW one.

Dmunster · Post by **Dmunster** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:46 pm

lduke1990 wrote:great... probly (sp) the most meaningless post since the DoW one.

1) GFY
2) How is comparing SC2 to a very comprable game already on the market pointless?
C) DoW crushes SC and will crush SC2 you Korean momofektard.

ETA: Its probably. Just sound it out. Not the hardest word to spell...

Neutrino · Post by **Neutrino** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 11:35 pm

Dmunster wrote:
Well put. Good luck actuially producing a relic unit with IG anyway. They are so underpowered its silly. I can take most IG players out in Tier 1.5 or 2 with Eldar or SM.

True, Guardsmen have been nerfed a bit too much. Really the only tactic (that i've found) is to hole-up in your base until tier 2-3 and hope for the best.

I think the screwing over of the Basalisk was the worst thing they did to them (other than CotMS; the old version was much better). Most of the other changes are relitavely minor (or good; I love the way you can now tell the Heavy Weapon Teams what to fire at... it was very irritating watching a Lascannon shoot troops when there were much more valuable targets around)

The only time i've found Guardsmen to be effective is in large team games, where some minimum-talent individual sits behind a turret wall until Tier 4 and my usual Eldar don't have the muscle to get them out.

Dmunster · Post by **Dmunster** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 11:41 pm

Neutrino wrote:
Dmunster wrote:
Well put. Good luck actuially producing a relic unit with IG anyway. They are so underpowered its silly. I can take most IG players out in Tier 1.5 or 2 with Eldar or SM.
True, Guardsmen have been nerfed a bit too much. Really the only tactic (that i've found) is to hole-up in your base until tier 2-3 and hope for the best.

I think the screwing over of the Basalisk was the worst thing they did to them (other than CotMS; the old version was much better). Most of the other changes are relitavely minor (or good; I love the way you can now tell the Heavy Weapon Teams what to fire at... it was very irritating watching a Lascannon shoot troops when there were much more valuable targets around)

The only time i've found Guardsmen to be effective is in large team games, where some minimum-talent individual sits behind a turret wall until Tier 4 and my usual Eldar don't have the muscle to get them out.

Ya, apparently IG was IMBA when winter assault came out. I'm a late comer to DoW. I bought dark crusade about 2 months ago so all I know is the current version. Sucks that I'm forced to play Tau online. If I play Necron I catch hell. I played Eldar on TT.

Neutrino · Post by **Neutrino** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 12:24 am

Dmunster wrote: Ya, apparently IG was IMBA when winter assault came out. I'm a late comer to DoW. I bought dark crusade about 2 months ago so all I know is the current version. Sucks that I'm forced to play Tau online. If I play Necron I catch hell. I played Eldar on TT.

The WA Guardsmen wern't horribly imba, but they were a bit over the top, kind of like Necrons or Orks are now.

Luckily they were never like the pre-patch Necrons; they were absolutly horrible. I was actually proud of a victory over standard difficulty Necron AI they were that imbalanced.

I would recomend getting DoW and WA, because it is very restrictive to just be able to play Tau and Necrons online.

Out of all 7 races (7, count 'em. Far superior to Starcraft's paltry 3) I would have to say that Eldar are the most fun and challenging to play and the most well balenced (Harlequins are the best thing that has happened to Eldar, ever). I would play TT, but I can never seem to scrape up enough cash

Dmunster · Post by **Dmunster** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 12:50 am

Neutrino wrote:
Dmunster wrote: Ya, apparently IG was IMBA when winter assault came out. I'm a late comer to DoW. I bought dark crusade about 2 months ago so all I know is the current version. Sucks that I'm forced to play Tau online. If I play Necron I catch hell. I played Eldar on TT.
The WA Guardsmen wern't horribly imba, but they were a bit over the top, kind of like Necrons or Orks are now.

Luckily they were never like the pre-patch Necrons; they were absolutly horrible. I was actually proud of a victory over standard difficulty Necron AI they were that imbalanced.

I would recomend getting DoW and WA, because it is very restrictive to just be able to play Tau and Necrons online.

Out of all 7 races (7, count 'em. Far superior to Starcraft's paltry 3) I would have to say that Eldar are the most fun and challenging to play and the most well balenced (Harlequins are the best thing that has happened to Eldar, ever). I would play TT, but I can never seem to scrape up enough cash

I used to love Harlequins TT but in DoW they die quick. I dunno, mebbe i'm using them wrong but I engage a squad and she dies. It would be nice if I could attach one to a group of banshees or something. How do you use em successfully?

Neutrino · Post by **Neutrino** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:15 am

I find the best way is to stick 2 of them in a Falcon and jump it into the middle of their army. Drop both out and use Dance of Death. This'll keep them from being shot too bits and enable them to do maximum damage.

Harlequins are mostly disruption and hero killing units, so taking on a full close-combat squad 1-1 is not the best of ideas. They will, however, flatten any hero's and/or ranged units (or even light close-combat squads, such as Cultists) with the Harlequin's Kiss thing (even though her normal attack kills most things 2-3 hits)

I have also discovered that the Farseer health buffs also affect the Harlequin, nearly doubling her health with all of them. This is almost enough to make me prioritize then, but the Eldritch Storm upgrade is just so much more fun...

lduke1990 · Post by **lduke1990** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 9:31 pm

this is a starcraft thread, posting about DoW is thread-jacking, therefore pointless, also look at my profile I'm Canadian you biggoted douche

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 9:34 pm

1. Starcraft...do they still sell it in non-battle-chest packages?

2. DoW...the problem with this game is the campaign, it's way too repetitive. I could not get myself to finish it. At least in starcraft the campaign scenarios has a set up.

lduke1990 · Post by **lduke1990** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 9:36 pm

They probably don't sell any singles anymore, not a large enough market, but you could probably get one through them or look on Ebay or some torrent site.