the destrution of earth

[tjm123]

radaition kills you slowy anti matter kills you then. with out the whole painful radition death thing. chose one

[Neutrino]

radaition kills you slowy anti matter kills you then. with out the whole painful radition death thing. chose one

That's only if you were too cheap to invest in some decent radiation shielding when you built your fusion engine.

[tjm123]

then i would buy blast shields and a backup genater for my anti matter.

[Jehan]

But what would be the point of firing a anti-matter missile against a crappy little ship?
There is essentially no likelyhood in the near future of developing anything better than Fusion engines.
The cost of the missile would probably outweigh that of the ship you are destroying!
It's not the most ecomomical way to make war.

QFT
people dont spend money for no reason, thats the way the world has always worked.

[tjm123]

see ya gtg. great conversation. good argument but we may have staryed from the topic a bit

[Neutrino]

then i would buy blast shields and a backup genater for my anti matter.

The backup generator might do you some good, but nothing short of a few solid kilometres of shielding is going to protect you from a matter - anti-matter explosion.

[frood]

There are already enough nukes on earth to effectively destroy the human race. So how would antimatter make use more powerful? We would be able to destroy everything with more efficiency. How exciting!


Also I think this thread needs some smiley faces.

[Aegnor]

Well I think that anti-matter weapons could benefit mankind. I'm sure it's more capable of removing asteroid threats than fission weapons.

[Neutrino]

Well I think that anti-matter weapons could benefit mankind. I'm sure it's more capable of removing asteroid threats than fission weapons.

True, but you'd still have the problem of smaller asteroid chunks, unless you used a lot of Anti-matter...

[Pico]

How about rocket launchers that fire chainsaws?

[Aegnor]

Well I think that anti-matter weapons could benefit mankind. I'm sure it's more capable of removing asteroid threats than fission weapons.

True, but you'd still have the problem of smaller asteroid chunks, unless you used a lot of Anti-matter...

Hehe true. But who knows, some day we might find anti-matter in nature somewhere.

[Neutrino]

Well I think that anti-matter weapons could benefit mankind. I'm sure it's more capable of removing asteroid threats than fission weapons.

True, but you'd still have the problem of smaller asteroid chunks, unless you used a lot of Anti-matter...

Hehe true. But who knows, some day we might find anti-matter in nature somewhere.

Hmmm, well it'll have to be somewhere with an extrordinarilary pure vacuum, because anti-matter tends to react explosively with normal matter...

[EvilPurpleMonkey]

I don't think the human race will die unless everything else in the universe is destroyed or rendered useless, in a big rip, big crunch or big freeze scenario. We're built to survive. In fact, even if all the nuclear weapons on Earth were detonated we would still survive (They aren't as powerful as you think.). There is no way to kill all humans except for taking away all our resources.

[Skittles!]

I don't think the human race will die unless everything else in the universe is destroyed or rendered useless, in a big rip, big crunch or big freeze scenario. We're built to survive. In fact, even if all the nuclear weapons on Earth were detonated we would still survive (They aren't as powerful as you think.). There is no way to kill all humans except for taking away all our resources.

Which seems to be happening a lot recently over the past 100 years by the human race.

[Neutrino]

I don't think the human race will die unless everything else in the universe is destroyed or rendered useless, in a big rip, big crunch or big freeze scenario. We're built to survive. In fact, even if all the nuclear weapons on Earth were detonated we would still survive (They aren't as powerful as you think.). There is no way to kill all humans except for taking away all our resources.

If they were all detonated in one spot, then no-one would care much (except those living nearby ) but if it was a war situation and they were all detonated over various population centres, then the impact would be much worse.

Probably a majority of the population would die immidiatly and the rest either rendered sterile, killed slowly by radiation poisioning or produce offspring that bare little to no resemblance to the human norm.

Those that survive the radiation and such will probably die as the ecosystem goes kaput.

Even if some form of humanity does survive the nuclear winter, the present civilization has used up most of the accessable resources, so it will be unlikely they will ever reach the technalogical ehights of today.

The moral of the story?
Nuclear weapons are bad.

[Anarchy Ninja]

I don't think the human race will die unless everything else in the universe is destroyed or rendered useless, in a big rip, big crunch or big freeze scenario. We're built to survive. In fact, even if all the nuclear weapons on Earth were detonated we would still survive (They aren't as powerful as you think.). There is no way to kill all humans except for taking away all our resources.

If they were all detonated in one spot, then no-one would care much (except those living nearby ) but if it was a war situation and they were all detonated over various population centres, then the impact would be much worse.

Probably a majority of the population would die immidiatly and the rest either rendered sterile, killed slowly by radiation poisioning or produce offspring that bare little to no resemblance to the human norm.

Those that survive the radiation and such will probably die as the ecosystem goes kaput.

Even if some form of humanity does survive the nuclear winter, the present civilization has used up most of the accessable resources, so it will be unlikely they will ever reach the technalogical ehights of today.

The moral of the story?
Nuclear weapons are bad.

I'm all for it as long as my irradiated mutant horrible offspring have some kind of amazing powers

[Dancing Mustard]

How about rocket launchers that fire chainsaws?

Hell yeah! Rocket launchers that fired chainsaws made out of lazers would be the best thing in the world! EVAR!!!!!

[Skittles!]

I don't think the human race will die unless everything else in the universe is destroyed or rendered useless, in a big rip, big crunch or big freeze scenario. We're built to survive. In fact, even if all the nuclear weapons on Earth were detonated we would still survive (They aren't as powerful as you think.). There is no way to kill all humans except for taking away all our resources.

If they were all detonated in one spot, then no-one would care much (except those living nearby ) but if it was a war situation and they were all detonated over various population centres, then the impact would be much worse.

Probably a majority of the population would die immidiatly and the rest either rendered sterile, killed slowly by radiation poisioning or produce offspring that bare little to no resemblance to the human norm.

Those that survive the radiation and such will probably die as the ecosystem goes kaput.

Even if some form of humanity does survive the nuclear winter, the present civilization has used up most of the accessable resources, so it will be unlikely they will ever reach the technalogical ehights of today.

The moral of the story?
Nuclear weapons are bad.

I'm all for it as long as my irradiated mutant horrible offspring have some kind of amazing powers

Do you count 'amazing powers' as mangled limbs and mental unstability?

[EvilPurpleMonkey]

I don't think the human race will die unless everything else in the universe is destroyed or rendered useless, in a big rip, big crunch or big freeze scenario. We're built to survive. In fact, even if all the nuclear weapons on Earth were detonated we would still survive (They aren't as powerful as you think.). There is no way to kill all humans except for taking away all our resources.

If they were all detonated in one spot, then no-one would care much (except those living nearby ) but if it was a war situation and they were all detonated over various population centres, then the impact would be much worse.

Probably a majority of the population would die immidiatly and the rest either rendered sterile, killed slowly by radiation poisioning or produce offspring that bare little to no resemblance to the human norm.

Those that survive the radiation and such will probably die as the ecosystem goes kaput.

Even if some form of humanity does survive the nuclear winter, the present civilization has used up most of the accessable resources, so it will be unlikely they will ever reach the technalogical ehights of today.

The moral of the story?
Nuclear weapons are bad.

Of course we'd be in a horrible spot if all the nuclear weapons on earth were detonated. But we'd still survive. Let's take a step by step look at it, shall we?
1. All the nuclear weapons on earth are detonated. Everyone in the immediate area is vaporized. This would vaporize all the population that is nearby and destroy pretty much everything in the area, however there are shelters strong enough to withstand ground zero.
2. Fallout. This is the worst part. The fallout would kill almost everything it would come into contact with. But fallout shelters can be built. A 2 foot thick concrete wall or a 3 foot thick barrier of earth will absorb 99.9 % of all gamma rays from fallout. One could easily and quickly prepare such a shelter. Of course the outdoors will be crawling with gamma radiation. But after the initial fallout usually brought about by precipitation, it would be fairly safe to wander about outside. The amount of radiation you would take from being outside after the initial fallout would usually be less than the amount you would get from x rays. And radiation is not permanent.
3. Nuclear Winter. There is not much credible proof of your apocalyptic nuclear winter. The majority of the dust, ash, soot and whatnot causing it would be removed from the atmosphere by precipitation. The remainder would cause about 10 degrees of cooling for decades. We've survived conditions like that before. Also, a few more things you might like to know, The possibility of all the nuclear weapons being detonated is extremely unlikely. The USA and Russia together have approximately 5000-6000 nuclear weapons combined, the majority being small scale weapons. They will likely not be fired at locations that would ensure maximum casualties globally. They would probably not be fired at cities, instead being fired at important military locations. However, with the USA, that's a bit of a problem as the majority of these locations are in or near cities. Un/Luckily the paranoid Americans are prepared for such a thing with personal shelters. The Russians also have giant shelters designed to fit about 80% of the population of the major cities they are near. And the USA and Russia are the main targets for nuclear attacks and attacking. This would be a fairly accurate scenario. Also, the most powerful nuclear weapon had a blast radius of 2 kilometers I believe. Oh, and I think nuclear weapons are bad too. Too much collateral damage and long term effects. Bad for the environment and a waste of time as weapons. You were mostly right, you just exaggerated the effects. Like I said, they aren't as powerful as you think.

[Anarchy Ninja]

I don't think the human race will die unless everything else in the universe is destroyed or rendered useless, in a big rip, big crunch or big freeze scenario. We're built to survive. In fact, even if all the nuclear weapons on Earth were detonated we would still survive (They aren't as powerful as you think.). There is no way to kill all humans except for taking away all our resources.

If they were all detonated in one spot, then no-one would care much (except those living nearby ) but if it was a war situation and they were all detonated over various population centres, then the impact would be much worse.

Probably a majority of the population would die immidiatly and the rest either rendered sterile, killed slowly by radiation poisioning or produce offspring that bare little to no resemblance to the human norm.

Those that survive the radiation and such will probably die as the ecosystem goes kaput.

Even if some form of humanity does survive the nuclear winter, the present civilization has used up most of the accessable resources, so it will be unlikely they will ever reach the technalogical ehights of today.

The moral of the story?
Nuclear weapons are bad.

I'm all for it as long as my irradiated mutant horrible offspring have some kind of amazing powers

Do you count 'amazing powers' as mangled limbs and mental unstability?

Depends how functional these extra and mangaled limbs are, an extra set of arms would be sweet and if by mental instability you mean mind powers then yes

[Pico]

So it would be like the Fallout series of games?

[Guiscard]

I imagine the world will end with an enormous explosion in re-posts... This will send the interweb haywire and probably robots will be involved...

[Aegnor]

You can never know when the intergalactic highway will intersect with earth's orbit.

[Pico]

Check out a short story called "When Sysadmins Ruled The Earth" by Cory Doctorow. Its in a book of his shorts called "Overclocked"

Pretty interesting.

[Jehan]

Well I think that anti-matter weapons could benefit mankind. I'm sure it's more capable of removing asteroid threats than fission weapons.

True, but you'd still have the problem of smaller asteroid chunks, unless you used a lot of Anti-matter...

Hehe true. But who knows, some day we might find anti-matter in nature somewhere.

Hmmm, well it'll have to be somewhere with an extrordinarilary pure vacuum, because anti-matter tends to react explosively with normal matter...

man who wants to discuss why the heck the universe in our particular region is the way it is, cos i really do, why did the anti matter and matter develop in the way that it did, i mean there's so much matter around here, and so little antimatter, what's the deal??