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Postby PirateSamurai45 on Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:00 pm

Hello all,

small but significant issue with the "Europe Map".... the line indicating a connection from Albania to Sicily is covered by the circle indicating the number of armies in albania. can this be adjusted? I played this map for the first time recently and did not find out until it was too late that albania and sicily are connected. anyone else have this issue?
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Postby Qwert on Thu Jul 26, 2007 4:06 pm

No,i have issue with some names who not present these terittory:Example insted Croatia must wrote Yugoslavia.
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Postby DAZMCFC on Thu Jul 26, 2007 4:09 pm

it is actually albania and italy that connect. :roll:
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Re: very specific issue with Europe Map

Postby thegeneralpublic on Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:45 pm

PirateSamurai45 wrote:Hello all,

small but significant issue with the "Europe Map".... the line indicating a connection from Albania to Sicily is covered by the circle indicating the number of armies in albania. can this be adjusted? I played this map for the first time recently and did not find out until it was too late that albania and sicily are connected. anyone else have this issue?

Wow. I had to go back and look at that. I never noticed that before. EVER. And for the same reason. I'm surprised that got through the forge. Thank god no one else noticed that in the games I played...
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Postby Simonov on Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:32 pm

yes i never noticed it either before this post. and must say i agree with my serbian friend since this is a pre-90's map name croatia should be replaced with yugoslavia.
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Postby KEYOGI on Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:39 pm

The connection problem has been well known for some time. The map is in need of a revamp, but nobody has stepped forward to volunteer. It would also take a revamp to possibly solve the Croatia/Yugoslavia debate, but that would be up to the original cartographer if it could be changed or not.

People need to remember that the foundry is constantly evolving and changing. Standards are a lot higher now that they used to be. Even the Classic map has it's problems with graphics and missing connections.
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Postby d.gishman on Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:35 pm

Yep, the connection was the main problem i had with this. Also, the mountains (I thought they look like rips instead of mountains)
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Postby sfhbballnut on Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:58 pm

I'd contest the need for revamp, it looks pretty good at present and is a great play
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Postby wcaclimbing on Thu Jul 26, 2007 10:05 pm

How much would need to be done in the revamp?

If you can't contact the original map creator, i am considering volunteering for the revamp.

Since i dont have enough time do make a full new map from scratch (XML, borders, countries, etc.) , i think doing a revamp and improving an existing map would work for me. I have improved my photoshop skills a lot and I would be willing to revamp the europe map.

@ Keyogi or andy: if you want me to revamp, just reply with more detail of what would have to be done. I am pretty sure i will be able to revamp the map and make it better.
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Postby sfhbballnut on Thu Jul 26, 2007 10:07 pm

editing the map may not be enough if indeed it is to be revamped
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Postby Unit_2 on Thu Jul 26, 2007 10:28 pm

i think that theres a line there connecting them together, take a very close look.
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Postby wcaclimbing on Thu Jul 26, 2007 10:59 pm

sfhbballnut wrote:editing the map may not be enough if indeed it is to be revamped

That is why i want to know how much needs to be done.

After i find out how much needs to change I will make a definite decision.

Because im pretty sure that i will be able to do a lot of work on this if i have to, I just want to know how much there is.
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Postby KEYOGI on Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:51 pm

Europe is fine for the most part. It needs some new army shadows, XML tweaks and new mountains. If anybody wants to attempt a revamp or even just a touch up, announce it in the Revamps thread.
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Postby thegeneralpublic on Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:49 am

It also needs that arrow changed. It always disturbed me how out of place that arrow is.
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Postby casper on Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:00 am

Agreed. The arrow was added after the fact. Originally it was a "secret" attack route but people complained.

I never knew Italy connected to Albania either. Should definitely be fixed.
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Postby qeee1 on Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:04 am

If Europe is to be revamped it should only be some minor tweaking. I love that map.
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Postby wcaclimbing on Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:22 am

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Postby ivoK on Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:01 pm

qwert wrote:No,i have issue with some names who not present these terittory:Example insted Croatia must wrote Yugoslavia.


Ma daj! We're not gonna start this again! Though I agree the whole thing should not be called Croatia, it certainly should not be called something that doesn't exist anymore!
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Postby snufkin on Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:51 pm

Why not?

The map is not contemporary.. seems like it´s set sometime between 1950 and 1990.
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Postby Simonov on Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:12 pm

ivo im from croatia and don't agree with you.simple there should be notice on the map that it represent pre-90's political situation.it's evident since germany is still separated on eastern and western part and there is czekoslovakia on the map (though wrongly named slovakia).or to put aside any political implications simply rename croatia to western balkans.
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Postby Qwert on Fri Jul 27, 2007 6:04 pm

If you put Yugoslavia and Chehoslovakia, you dont get any political implication,you only get map who represent europe from 1945 to 1989. With Yugoslavia name you dont favorite any of 6 former republic.
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Postby ivoK on Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:06 pm

fair enough. ukraine will become Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, among others.

lets just say things may have to be changed, regardless of one's nationality.

AND yugoslavia (both name and country) would still exist if it favored all 6 former republics.
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