SYDNEY 2000 [ABANDONED]

[onbekende]

Flags
You got a flag twice twice (12th and 23th second colomn)

I suggest Belgium (almost same as Romanian, vertical stripes from pole: Black-Yellow-Red)

Venues: make it disciplines (I barely know what it means, and alot but not all are good english on here)
Goods: make it food, fairly obvious then

Colomns: #ter - multi - #ter needing def - #multi - #ter that can attack ter - multi - #cont attackable - multi - Subtotal - part by - Total - Bonus - Cont

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Parramatta   6   1,5   3   4   3   2   3   1   30,0   8   3,750   4   Parramatta
Ryde         5   1,5   3   4   4   2   5   1   32,5   8   4,063   4   Ryde
Warringah    5   1,5   2   4   3   2   4   1   25,5   8   3,188   3   Warringah
Auburn       5   1,5   4   4   4   2   4   1   35,5   8   4,438   4   Auburn
Inner West   4   1,5   3   4   3   2   4   1   28,0   8   3,500   4   Inner West
Sydney City  3   1,5   3   4   3   2   8   1   30,5   8   3,813   4   Sydney City
Waverley     4   1,5   2   4   2   2   4   1   22,0   8   2,750   3   Waverley
Bankstown    4   1,5   4   4   4   2   5   1   35,0   8   4,375   4   Bankstown
Cantebury    6   1,5   5   4   6   2   9   1   50,0   8   6,250   6   Cantebury
Marrickville 3   1,5   3   4   3   2   5   1   27,5   8   3,438   3   Marrickville
Randwick     7   1,5   5   4   5   2   5   1   45,5   8   5,688   6   Randwick
Rockdale     5   1,5   3   4   3   2   6   1   31,5   8   3,938   4   Rockdale
Hurstville   4   1,5   4   4   4   2   4   1   34,0   8   4,250   4   Hurstville


ter: territories
multi: multiply by
cont: continent

#ter that can attack ter: I also count those 3 attack routes via the roads and various objects
#cont attackable: I also count such an extra attack route as 1 continent

You see some of my bonus value's are different, some alot, some less
I hope the notes I place will give enough justification for it.


Also, I see 61 territories, perhaps better 60? (and then I will suggest making Monteray and Sandringham into 1, doesn't change bonus)


For the rest again a very nice map, you want to have the most maps?

PS. does this come over well?

[cairnswk]

you want to have the most maps?

PS. does this come over well?

Yes it does come over well onbekende, i think i understand very well.
I will make some changes and post a new version shortly.

And NO, i do not want to have the most maps, this is not a goal for me.....it is simply creativity...I have another war map that I am working on right now but it is not yet posted in new ideas....and i have 4 other map ideas that are working their way in my head.

[onbekende]

your brain sounds delecious

[cairnswk]

Flags
You got a flag twice twice (12th and 23th second colomn)

I suggest Belgium (almost same as Romanian, vertical stripes from pole: Black-Yellow-Red)

Venues: make it disciplines (I barely know what it means, and alot but not all are good english on here)
Goods: make it food, fairly obvious then

Also, I see 61 territories, perhaps better 60? (and then I will suggest making Monteray and Sandringham into 1, doesn't change bonus)

onbekende...changes in V8...
* Belgian flag added
* Goods changed to food
* i'm keeping venues because it is smaller word.

I will look at the terts #s and bonuses again later this week.

[onbekende]

now about those bonusses, some are way too high, take the 8 for Ryde: 4 is a way better bonus, you only need to defend 3 territoires and in return you can attack alot with that Spectator in Chatswood
Auburn 6, 5 seems better, 4 territories to defend, with the Olympic park cut of from rest of continent.
Sydney City, 7: wow, overkill, wy not 5?
Waverley, 8: now tak the how you got that? really.
Bankstown, 8: mkay, 6 sounds better

rest is debetable

[unriggable]

Most. Confusing. Map. Ever.

[gimil]

jsut a few points cairns:

1. The red crosses for hospitals don't sit right no the map, they stick out a little to much and feel a litle flat.

2. The right hand side of the bonus box has some pixalation

3. There two 4 way boarders which we all know is big no no these days. One at hurstville and one at rook wood.

4. Seems theres some noise and distortion around parts of this map, either the JPEG quality isn't high enough or im seeing things. (Im not really sure lol)

But anyway keep up the work and i hope the creative juices keep flowing

[unriggable]

What exactly is a venue?

[onbekende]

like my thing said, a discipline


and there is only 1 4-way border, the other isn't one

[gimil]

like my thing said, a discipline


and there is only 1 4-way border, the other isn't one

well they both look like 4 way boarders

[cairnswk]

Most. Confusing. Map. Ever.

please explain what u don't understand...unriggable...and i will assist u!

[cairnswk]

now about those bonusses, some are way too high, take the 8 for Ryde: 4 is a way better bonus, you only need to defend 3 territoires and in return you can attack alot with that Spectator in Chatswood
Auburn 6, 5 seems better, 4 territories to defend, with the Olympic park cut of from rest of continent.
Sydney City, 7: wow, overkill, wy not 5?
Waverley, 8: now tak the how you got that? really.
Bankstown, 8: mkay, 6 sounds better

rest is debetable

hearing you say on this onbekende. i will re-examine and advise accordingly.

[cairnswk]

jsut a few points cairns:
1. The red crosses for hospitals don't sit right no the map, they stick out a little to much and feel a litle flat.
2. The right hand side of the bonus box has some pixalation
3. There two 4 way boarders which we all know is big no no these days. One at hurstville and one at rook wood.
4. Seems theres some noise and distortion around parts of this map, either the JPEG quality isn't high enough or im seeing things. (Im not really sure lol)
But anyway keep up the work and i hope the creative juices keep flowing

gimil....thanks for your post ( and other players postings also).
1. OK, for red cross hospitals we need a more stylised version.
2. yes, the pixelation issues i'm aware of and will address.
3. thanks for pointing those out, will adjust accordingly....maybe a big tree LOL.
4. can u pin point this for me, as I don't understadn what u are seeing.
and gimil, there is plenty of creative juices flowing. i even surprised myself these last couple of days with another new map.

[gimil]

4. can u pin point this for me, as I don't understadn what u are seeing.

and gimil, there is plenty of creative juices flowing. i even surprised myself these last couple of days with another new map.

4. Its worst round terr names. the gray continent seems to show it up the best.

Another map? ill going to have to sort that sherbet problem . . .

[cairnswk]

What exactly is a venue?

a venue unriggable...as posted in http://www.dictionary.com:

ven·ue
–noun 1. Law. a. the place of a crime or cause of action.
b. the county or place where the jury is gathered and the cause tried.
c. the designation, in the pleading, of the jurisdiction where a trial will be held.
d. the statement naming the place and person before whom an affidavit was sworn.

2. the scene or locale of any action or event.
3. the position taken by a person engaged in argument or debate; ground.


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[Origin: 1300–50; ME venue an attack < MF: lit., a coming, OF, fem. ptp. of venir to come < VL *venūta, for L venta, equiv. to ven(īre) to come + -ta fem. ptp. suffix]
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Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.
American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source ven·ue (věn'yōō) Pronunciation Key
n.
Law
The locality where a crime is committed or a cause of action occurs.
The locality or political division from which a jury is called and in which a trial is held.
The clause within a declaration naming the locality in which a trial will be held.
The clause in an affidavit naming the place where it was sworn to.
The scene or setting in which something takes place; a locale: "that non-cinematic venue of popular nightmares, the discotheque" (P.J. O'Rourke).
A place for large gatherings, as a sports stadium.

The scene or setting in which something takes place; a locale: "that non-cinematic venue of popular nightmares, the discotheque" (P.J. O'Rourke).
A place for large gatherings, as a sports stadium.


[Middle English, attack, from Old French, a coming, attack, from feminine past participle of venir, to come, from Latin venīre; see gwā- in Indo-European roots.]


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Online Etymology Dictionary - Cite This Source
venue

c.1330, "a coming for the purpose of attack," from O.Fr. venue "coming," from fem. pp. of venir "to come," from L. venire "to come," from PIE base *gwa- "to go, come" (cf. O.E. cuman "to come;" see come). The sense of "place where a case in law is tried" is first recorded 1531. Extended to locality in general, especially "site of a concert or sporting event" (1857). Change of venue is from Blackstone (1768).

[cairnswk]

like my thing said, a discipline

a discipline...onbekende....is:

dis·ci·pline
–noun 1. training to act in accordance with rules; drill: military discipline.
2. activity, exercise, or a regimen that develops or improves a skill; training: A daily stint at the typewriter is excellent discipline for a writer.
3. punishment inflicted by way of correction and training.
4. the rigor or training effect of experience, adversity, etc.: the harsh discipline of poverty.
5. behavior in accord with rules of conduct; behavior and order maintained by training and control: good discipline in an army.
6. a set or system of rules and regulations.
7. Ecclesiastical. the system of government regulating the practice of a church as distinguished from its doctrine.
8. an instrument of punishment, esp. a whip or scourge, used in the practice of self-mortification or as an instrument of chastisement in certain religious communities.
9. a branch of instruction or learning: the disciplines of history and economics.
–verb (used with object) 10. to train by instruction and exercise; drill.
11. to bring to a state of order and obedience by training and control.
12. to punish or penalize in order to train and control; correct; chastise.

A venue is a place where a discipline is executed.

and there is only 1 4-way border, the other isn't one

yes there is only q 4 way border. the opther one that looks like it is, i'll correct also.

[onbekende]

don't quote a dictionary on me, I hoped I saw enough of those

[cairnswk]

don't quote a dictionary on me, I hoped I saw enough of those

oh i'm sorry onbekende....did you have a bad experience with a dictionary?

[onbekende]

yeah, they tend to attack me

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[cairnswk]

Most. Confusing. Map. Ever.

unriggable....my apologies.
I thought i had answered your post, but it must not have taken.
From your previous posts, i understand that there is something you DON'T understand about this map.
Enlighten me further with questions, and I will attempt to explain.

[KEYOGI]

Anyone interested in Sydney 2000 based on the Olympics?

Yes
56% [ 26 ]
No
43% [ 20 ]

Total Votes : 46

[KEYOGI]

So, what's the verdict? I don't think the poll is overly favourable, is the map continuing?

Just a note on the size... you'll need to lose 30px off the width making it 630px wide. Should be easy to achieve without affecting the actual map.

[cairnswk]

Anyone interested in Sydney 2000 based on the Olympics?

Yes
56% [ 26 ]
No
43% [ 20 ]

Total Votes : 46

Thanks Keyogi.

[cairnswk]

So, what's the verdict? I don't think the poll is overly favourable, is the map continuing?

Just a note on the size... you'll need to lose 30px off the width making it 630px wide. Should be easy to achieve without affecting the actual map.

I think Keyogi that we'll ask lack and Andy for an opinion.
I get the perception that most of the forum prefer war types maps, and any map where people are hesitant about different playing styles or variations on play will always achieve this resuilt as above. I think it would be a shame to lose a map that offers this.
I say it should continue, but if Andy and Lack defer otherwise, I will accept their decision. I will PM them myself, thanks.
As to the size, if the map continues it will be adjusted, as long as this applies to one and all and other cartographers come under the same rule.
Whether that applies to maps already in final forge is another issue.
As Pearl Harbor is oversize also at 650px

[cairnswk]

This is map is being put ON VACATION, and I will return to its development in a month or so.