[Official] Indochina REVAMP [Quenched]

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 1:34 am

I just really don't like the dots and thats the main thing that makes the water seem above, maybe if you reversed how they went.

KEYOGI · Post by **KEYOGI** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 2:13 am

I'm not sure I understand RK's argument here. The dots capture the feeling of an an older map nicely along with the rest of the map. Maybe it has something to do with how hills and mountains are represented on some topographic maps?

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 2:47 am

KEYOGI wrote:I'm not sure I understand RK's argument here. The dots capture the feeling of an an older map nicely along with the rest of the map. Maybe it has something to do with how hills and mountains are represented on some topographic maps?

I don't see how the dots capture the old map feel....

My dad collects old maps and globes so I have quite a bit of them around but none of them have dots.

Also, I think you're spot on about the dots reminding me of a topographical map.

I like the dots on the inside of the playable area though.

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:08 am

i think this is already beter, but as rk says it are those dots, because if you look to other maps with mountain they have lines in the same way as those dots, so it looks a bit like a mountain is in the sea

edbeard · Post by **edbeard** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:18 am

I like the dots. It's part of the reason I voted for this map. It looks like the water is at the right level to me.

cairnswk · Post by **cairnswk** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:54 am

I haven't taken notice a lot of this revamp...but I like the dots also edbeard. it makes this a mpa look like an old topographic map from the period of the french-indo china
WM is executing another great revamp...well done WM.

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 4:49 am

cairnswk wrote:.but I like the dots also edbeard. it makes this a mpa look like an old topographic map from the period of the french-indo china

those statements contradict,, if you like how the dots make it look like an old topographic map then why do you endorse them showing(topographically) the water being higher than the land.

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 4:52 am

i like the dots but not how they make water look higehr than land

WidowMakers · Post by **WidowMakers** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 7:00 am

here are some maps that i took a little guidance from
The first one has solid lines that radiate from the land to the sea. They get further apart as they get further from land.

The second shows the same style.

I combined the two and spread them out more because I did not want a massive amount of black dots to fill the water.

That is how I came to where the map is today.

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 9:23 am

mayby you should use lines too then?

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 2:24 pm

the second one has nothingsimilar to the dots on your map, that is what most the old maps i've seen have had.

WidowMakers · Post by **WidowMakers** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 6:51 pm

OK everyone. I know I found a map out there that used dots. I did not just make it up on my own. I will try to find it and show what I used to base my map on. Plus when I did the map and had the lines instead of dots, it look way to dark on the water and distracted form the map. That is also why I chose to use dots. But mainly because I saw it on another "real" map.

WM

jako · Post by **jako** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:33 am

y WM? i think the dots are fine, adn they make the map look way better. y go through all this trouble?

Fireside Poet · Post by **Fireside Poet** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 7:32 am

We're now going back and forth about dots?! This is an excellent piece of work, WidowMakers.

WidowMakers · Post by **WidowMakers** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:49 pm

OK here is version 7

I used lines instead of dots but had to turn down the opacity to 40% to make them blend better with the map. Without that they were too overpowering. I hope this si a good compromise for all of the people who did not like the dots.
P.S. I know I found a map with dots. I am not going crazy.

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Large:
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/3967 ... 07ldl1.jpg
Small:
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/175/ ... 07skj0.jpg
XML:
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/6/15/ ... ina_04.xml

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:30 pm

turn the opacity down just a little more. They look better but like you said there still overpowering.

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:49 pm

I think it looks fantastic.. like x30000 improvement.

quench.

WidowMakers · Post by **WidowMakers** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 7:27 pm

reverend_kyle wrote:I think it looks fantastic.. like x30000 improvement.

quench.

The only reason I made the changes from dots to lines was for reverend_kyle. If he is happy then so am I. I don't want to lower the opactiy any more the last line is already almost gone.

The Fuzzy Pengui · Post by **The Fuzzy Pengui** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 7:42 pm

THE DOTS LOOKED SO MUCH BETTER!...switch back, please?

edbeard · Post by **edbeard** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:37 pm

I preferred the dots too. It's not a huge deal, but they would be my choice.

Teya · Post by **Teya** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:41 pm

The dots were WAY better.
If the lines were in the original map that was put up for vote, I would have voted for a different map.

The Fuzzy Pengui · Post by **The Fuzzy Pengui** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:45 pm

I say it's time for a poll.....lines or dots. Come on Widow, you know you want to

KEYOGI · Post by **KEYOGI** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 9:03 pm

I'm a fan of the dots as well. No need for a poll, WM will make the right choice.

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:20 am

I agree, WM will pick the lines.

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:25 am

I actually like the dots, but the lines look good also.

Lets mix to the two, and make it really awesome!

(Or bad).

--Andy