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Postby muy_thaiguy on Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:21 pm

Nobunaga wrote:
mybike_yourface wrote:i can't help it but think we may be missing something here. it's easy to talk about "crazies" but there's something deeper going on here. it's a social problem. it's good if you're armed yourself and you can deal with a situation. but the situations are just symptoms of a deeper social illness. what's with our increasingly violent society here in the U.S.? i'm no fan of societies in general. i'd like to ultimately see us get away from this failed city state model. there's a lot of things i could point towards(capitalism is always obvious) but past people owning guns or not maybe we should talk about something deeper. you don't have to have guns for whole groups of people or individuals to slaughter each other.


... Violent crime rates, especially murder (as well as others), are quite a bit lower today than they were 30 years ago. I'd give you a link but I'm lazy. Trust me, or look it up - shouldn't be too hard to find. The 70's were bad.

... Bloody news sells commercials, and news isn't the 30 minute evening summary of daily events that it used to be. News is now 24-7.

... But yeah, Americans are, generally speaking, violent. Perhaps more than most they see violence as a means of resolving conflicts... I mean, it's one of the first things that comes to an American mind when he (or she) is pissed off.

...
There was also a quote from John Adams I think, (or one of the Founding Fathers) that went along the lines of "The people of these colonies are more violent, stubborn, and less refined then their European brothers" I know that's not the exact quote, but it goes along those lines.
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Postby xtratabasco on Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:33 pm

well its like

600k die in auto accidents every year

600k die from cancer to smoking

100k die in hostipitals from misstreatment or wrong pills given

28k die from illegals (not including illegal drunk driving)


you and many die just slipping out of the fucking tub,





but, just how many get killed by a crazy with a gun?













and there are millions of innocent people that defend themselfs with a gun every year.

gee so lets just shit on the Constitution because some people, even here like to PIMP hogwash.










:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


I guess i shouldnt laugh cuzz its so pathetic, these gun grabbers, and they still dont talk about genocide, except illad said it was stupid. but he said the numbers were wrong..... yep illad said that.

http://www.innocentsbetrayed.com/index2.htm
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Postby Iliad on Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:34 pm

xtratabasco wrote:well its like

600k die in auto accidents every year

600k die from cancer to smoking

100k die in hostipitals from misstreatment or wrong pills given

28k die from illegals (not including illegal drunk driving)


you and many die just slipping out of the fucking tub,





but, just how many get killed by a crazy with a gun?













and there are millions of innocent people that defend themselfs with a gun every year.

gee so lets just shit on the Constitution because some people, even here like to PIMP hogwash.










:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


I guess i shouldnt laugh cuzz its so pathetic, these gun grabbers, and they still dont talk about genocide, except illad said it was stupid. but he said the numbers were wrong..... yep illad said that.

http://www.innocentsbetrayed.com/index2.htm

really? 28 thousand? Show me some statistics which prove that
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Postby Iliad on Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:39 pm

xtratabasco wrote:
xtratabasco wrote:
Nobunaga wrote:... Generally conservative here, but I do not subscribe to the "patently conservative" notion on guns.

... Guns should be available to any US citizen who wants to purchase one... AFTER a series of classes, a battery of tests, and a bill of general psychological health.

... I returned from being overseas for a decade and the amount of violence in my home country (USA) is now quite shocking. Local news is all about "The Murders of the Day". Quite horrifying, really. Where I spent the last ten years, one murder, anywhere in the country, would have been a national headliner.

...


FBI STATS
well illegals kill and sexually assalt over 28k a year here (not counting the deaths from DUIs) and this government still wont do anything about it, and only now the citizens are starting to get fed up, but only cuzz there tired of paying for the bastards..


you can slip and fall in the shower.

keep the 2nd amendment a shining example of True Freedom and the ability to defend yourself from an illegal or anyone.


Its just that simple

That's you just repeating that. I want a unbiased site which shows that 28 thousand people die because of illegal immigrants
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Postby xtratabasco on Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:40 pm

FBI own stats in 2006



lol


give me a dollar


and get a million if you can show pics of the 757 hitting the pentagon on 911




:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Iliad on Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:41 pm

xtratabasco wrote:FBI 2006



lol

but show the statistics. Show a link to an ubiased site.
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Postby xtratabasco on Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:43 pm

Iliad wrote:
xtratabasco wrote:FBI 2006



lol

but show the statistics. Show a link to an ubiased site.



google it.

or give me a dollar


:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Iliad on Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:45 pm

xtratabasco wrote:
Iliad wrote:
xtratabasco wrote:FBI 2006



lol

but show the statistics. Show a link to an ubiased site.



google it.

or give me a dollar


:lol: :lol: :lol:

You claimed the fact nwo prove it. I don't have to try to research to find it you have to show me your research.
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Postby xtratabasco on Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:59 pm

Iliad wrote:
xtratabasco wrote:
Iliad wrote:
xtratabasco wrote:FBI 2006



lol

but show the statistics. Show a link to an ubiased site.



google it.

or give me a dollar


:lol: :lol: :lol:

You claimed the fact nwo prove it. I don't have to try to research to find it you have to show me your research.


i went to the FBI crime stats....


but, just for you illy, lets say that only 2 US citizens die every year to illegals....


patty cake...patty cake



illy is a fool, let him show himself



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


PS the same FBI stats say that illegals assault and/or rape over 250K a year.
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Postby Iliad on Sat Oct 20, 2007 11:12 pm

xtratabasco wrote:
Iliad wrote:
xtratabasco wrote:
Iliad wrote:
xtratabasco wrote:FBI 2006



lol

but show the statistics. Show a link to an ubiased site.



google it.

or give me a dollar


:lol: :lol: :lol:

You claimed the fact nwo prove it. I don't have to try to research to find it you have to show me your research.


i went to the FBI crime stats....


but, just for you illy, lets say that only 2 US citizens die every year to illegals....


patty cake...patty cake



illy is a fool, let him show himself



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


PS the same FBI stats say that illegals assault and/or rape over 250K a year.

My bullshit alarm is going off. If this is true show a link.
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Postby Titanic on Sat Oct 20, 2007 11:12 pm

Lol Xtra, I didn use to like you, but I like you now because you cheer me up when I read your posts.

100,000 people die from being given the wrong pill in hospital? 27,000 die from illegal immigrants? 250,000 people are raped by illegals?

With all of this and your other crap about 1,200,000 people dying in car accidents and from smoking, its amazing that USA's population is still growing and you claim to be the greatest country int he world and a beacon to the rest of the world.
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Postby mybike_yourface on Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:52 am

xtratabasco wrote:well its like

600k die in auto accidents every year

600k die from cancer to smoking

100k die in hostipitals from misstreatment or wrong pills given

28k die from illegals (not including illegal drunk driving)


you and many die just slipping out of the fucking tub,





but, just how many get killed by a crazy with a gun?













and there are millions of innocent people that defend themselfs with a gun every year.

gee so lets just shit on the Constitution because some people, even here like to PIMP hogwash.










:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


I guess i shouldnt laugh cuzz its so pathetic, these gun grabbers, and they still dont talk about genocide, except illad said it was stupid. but he said the numbers were wrong..... yep illad said that.

http://www.innocentsbetrayed.com/index2.htm


Last i checked medical errors and car acident were very high on the list. where in the U.S. are you? you seem particularly obsesed with illegal aliens.
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Postby mybike_yourface on Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:54 am

xtratabasco wrote:
Iliad wrote:
xtratabasco wrote:
Iliad wrote:
xtratabasco wrote:FBI 2006



lol

but show the statistics. Show a link to an ubiased site.



google it.

or give me a dollar


:lol: :lol: :lol:

You claimed the fact nwo prove it. I don't have to try to research to find it you have to show me your research.


i went to the FBI crime stats....


but, just for you illy, lets say that only 2 US citizens die every year to illegals....


patty cake...patty cake



illy is a fool, let him show himself



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


PS the same FBI stats say that illegals assault and/or rape over 250K a year.


"only 2 US citizens die every year to illegals...." what does that mean?
are you a jingoist?
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Postby xtratabasco on Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:00 am

patty cake illy



and you are the fool


:D
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Postby borox0 on Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:03 am

If people armed themselves then the "random acts of violence" would do more damage as they have the weapons of whovever they bet the shit out of.
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Postby Snorri1234 on Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:09 am

Titanic wrote:Lol Xtra, I didn use to like you, but I like you now because you cheer me up when I read your posts.

100,000 people die from being given the wrong pill in hospital? 27,000 die from illegal immigrants? 250,000 people are raped by illegals?

With all of this and your other crap about 1,200,000 people dying in car accidents and from smoking, its amazing that USA's population is still growing and you claim to be the greatest country int he world and a beacon to the rest of the world.


Yeah it seems amazing that your country hasn't died out yet.
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Postby The1exile on Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:15 pm

war_bloodline wrote:For me, my whole family is very well armed but not because of humans but because of the moose and bears that come though my yard every now and then, they are even worse then a human even with out a gun.


Seriously...

...

...

You need a gun because of a MOOSE?!?! :shock:
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Postby The1exile on Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:16 pm

xtra, I reckon these lyrics suit you, google them if you like.

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Postby soundout9 on Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:17 pm

Go get your money :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby heavycola on Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:22 pm

xtratabasco wrote:
PS the same FBI stats say that illegals assault and/or rape over 250K a year.



http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2006/

The FBI doesn't publish the ethnicity of those it arrests. Go have a look. This is the FBI crime stats website, xtra you moron.
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Postby muy_thaiguy on Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:39 pm

The1exile wrote:
war_bloodline wrote:For me, my whole family is very well armed but not because of humans but because of the moose and bears that come though my yard every now and then, they are even worse then a human even with out a gun.


Seriously...

...

...

You need a gun because of a MOOSE?!?! :shock:
They can be quite dangerous. Though you may not hear about it very often, a moose will charge you if you anger it or threaten it's young.
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Postby soundout9 on Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:43 pm

muy_thaiguy wrote:
The1exile wrote:
war_bloodline wrote:For me, my whole family is very well armed but not because of humans but because of the moose and bears that come though my yard every now and then, they are even worse then a human even with out a gun.


Seriously...

...

...

You need a gun because of a MOOSE?!?! :shock:
They can be quite dangerous. Though you may not hear about it very often, a moose will charge you if you anger it or threaten it's young.

You obviously dont live in the country...neither do i but lol nvm
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Postby muy_thaiguy on Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:48 pm

soundout9 wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
The1exile wrote:
war_bloodline wrote:For me, my whole family is very well armed but not because of humans but because of the moose and bears that come though my yard every now and then, they are even worse then a human even with out a gun.


Seriously...

...

...

You need a gun because of a MOOSE?!?! :shock:
They can be quite dangerous. Though you may not hear about it very often, a moose will charge you if you anger it or threaten it's young.

You obviously dont live in the country...neither do i but lol nvm
Uh, Moose have wondered into town plenty of times and I have alot of friends who live out in the country.
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Postby soundout9 on Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:50 pm

muy_thaiguy wrote:
soundout9 wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
The1exile wrote:
war_bloodline wrote:For me, my whole family is very well armed but not because of humans but because of the moose and bears that come though my yard every now and then, they are even worse then a human even with out a gun.


Seriously...

...

...

You need a gun because of a MOOSE?!?! :shock:
They can be quite dangerous. Though you may not hear about it very often, a moose will charge you if you anger it or threaten it's young.

You obviously dont live in the country...neither do i but lol nvm
Uh, Moose have wondered into town plenty of times and I have alot of friends who live out in the country.

I wasnt talking about you muy_thaigus i was talking about The1exile
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Postby Titanic on Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:19 pm

Snorri1234 wrote:
Titanic wrote:Lol Xtra, I didn use to like you, but I like you now because you cheer me up when I read your posts.

100,000 people die from being given the wrong pill in hospital? 27,000 die from illegal immigrants? 250,000 people are raped by illegals?

With all of this and your other crap about 1,200,000 people dying in car accidents and from smoking, its amazing that USA's population is still growing and you claim to be the greatest country int he world and a beacon to the rest of the world.


Yeah it seems amazing that your country hasn't died out yet.


I like in the UK....but yer, 1.2 million dying a year, and the USA still has so many people. Do you have government baby farms or something that only conspiracists have ever found out about?
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