america

[Tyr]

ending the war would be a huge victory for democrats it would help bush very little if at all

[Bigfalcon65]

ending the war would be a huge victory for democrats it would help bush very little if at all

yes and by not ending it, people grow to hate bush more and more and thus the republicans.

[Tyr]

i think they will get more votes from ending it then from looking like they are incapable of ending it

[Bigfalcon65]

i think they will get more votes from ending it then from looking like they are incapable of ending it

valid point, but many of the people ive talked to dont even look at it from that point of view, they see it as bush is in control of things.

[Tyr]

the people you talk to are mis informed

[Anarkistsdream]

we'll be wherever we want whenever we want so shut the f*ck up

You are a true moron.

[Bigfalcon65]

the people you talk to are mis informed

misinformed, or shaped to beleive so

[Neutrino]

so now you trhow insults instead of debating the issues?

Ha!
I wish I were talented enough to create hypocrisy as blatant as you can.

[Tyr]

i am so glad that everoyne hates the country that has given so much to this world and thinks insulting me is a valid arguement

[Skittles!]

i am so glad that everoyne hates the country that has given so much to this world and thinks insulting me is a valid arguement

Given so much poverty, deaths, money and weapons. Oh we need those things oh-so-much.

[Tyr]

saved europe twice spread democracy helps the needy and generally does good things. no america means no french revolution means no democratic europe and so on and so on

[Tyr]

and european countries have done som much better controlling 84% of the globe at one point and subjecting its people to tyranycal rule ruthless mercentalism and divinding up lands how htey want instead of traditional tribal lines which is probaly the route of most of the worlds problems today

[Skittles!]

saved europe twice spread democracy helps the needy and generally does good things. no america means no french revolution means no democratic europe and so on and so on

You don't honestly believe you 'spread democracy', right? Your form of democracy isn't even proper democracy! You did not spread it, you invaded a country and made it democratic!

You 'saved' Europe with the help of Europe and other countries. You did not 'save' it single-handed.

Erm, you seem to be forgetting that there was a democratic Europe even before the French Revolution happened.

[Skittles!]

and european countries have done som much better controlling 84% of the globe at one point and subjecting its people to tyranycal rule ruthless mercentalism and divinding up lands how htey want instead of traditional tribal lines which is probaly the route of most of the worlds problems today

Yes, and America aren't creating random countries and dividing lands at all

[Carebian Knight]

I'm with you Tyr, America is fine, it's not perfect but it's the best country in the world right now. We're doing the most throughout the world(not talking about military) is anybody here from Iraq? Most people in Iraq are thankful that we came in and toppled their dictator. It's mostly the people who are in the countries that are fighting the war that are bitching.

You can't satisfy everyone, if the public gets what they want and we pull out now. Then in a few years when Iraq crumbles and Iran takes over and nukes the world. Everyone will blame the government, everyone always does. If something goes wrong then it's the government's fault, even if you elected them, it's still their fault. It's pretty bad when more than half the nation doesn't even say the pledge of allegiance when asked. Most of the people who do are children who do what they are asked to. It's horrible

[Tyr]

finally some one with a level head on his/her shoulders

[Carebian Knight]

his

[Skittles!]

finally some one with a level head on his/her shoulders

Thank you for ignoring my posts, not once, but twice!

[Tyr]

saved europe twice spread democracy helps the needy and generally does good things. no america means no french revolution means no democratic europe and so on and so on

You don't honestly believe you 'spread democracy', right? Your form of democracy isn't even proper democracy! You did not spread it, you invaded a country and made it democratic!

You 'saved' Europe with the help of Europe and other countries. You did not 'save' it single-handed.

Erm, you seem to be forgetting that there was a democratic Europe even before the French Revolution happened.

oh i forgot how much the french helped in world war 2 my fault and how many democracies would exist if not for americas example? how are we not a "proper democracy" we elect leaders and they govern thats what democracy is

[Carebian Knight]

and european countries have done som much better controlling 84% of the globe at one point and subjecting its people to tyranycal rule ruthless mercentalism and divinding up lands how htey want instead of traditional tribal lines which is probaly the route of most of the worlds problems today

Yes, and America aren't creating random countries and dividing lands at all

The random countries we make, which I can't even think of any at the moment, aren't controlled by us as colonies. Much unlike the Europeans did for centuries

[Tyr]

and european countries have done som much better controlling 84% of the globe at one point and subjecting its people to tyranycal rule ruthless mercentalism and divinding up lands how htey want instead of traditional tribal lines which is probaly the route of most of the worlds problems today

Yes, and America aren't creating random countries and dividing lands at all

howmany countries has america created? name 5.

[Neutrino]

saved europe twice

Europe saved Europe twice. Compared to British, French and Russian casualties, the US' were quite light.

spread democracy

So?

helps the needy and generally does good things.

So does more or less all other developed countries

no america means no french revolution means no democratic europe and so on and so on

Huh? No France means no French Revolution, means no Democratic Europe.
Methinks France played a much larger role in that particular conflict

[Tyr]

saved europe twice

Europe saved Europe twice. Compared to British, French and Russian casualties, the US' were quite light.

spread democracy

So?

helps the needy and generally does good things.

So does more or less all other developed countries

no america means no french revolution means no democratic europe and so on and so on

Huh? No France means no French Revolution, means no Democratic Europe.
Methinks France played a much larger role in that particular conflict

compared to land liberated by americas europes share is quite light

[Carebian Knight]

Yes American casualties were light, we entered the war late in both wars, even the Europeans admit, without America Europe would have fallen to the Kaiser or Hitler.

[Tyr]

saved europe twice

Europe saved Europe twice. Compared to British, French and Russian casualties, the US' were quite light.

spread democracy

So?

helps the needy and generally does good things.

So does more or less all other developed countries

no america means no french revolution means no democratic europe and so on and so on

Huh? No France means no French Revolution, means no Democratic Europe.
Methinks France played a much larger role in that particular conflict

compared to land liberated by americas europes share is quite light

the french would not have thought democracy if not for americas example