best QB's ever?

[Beastly]

Favre has the nicest tight end!


And he is the best QB!~

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Joe Montana! He's an even better tackler than the Water Boy!

[Blitzaholic]

jason campbell!!
GOOOOO REDSKINS!!!!

all time?


and isnt collins qb's for them now

[Blitzaholic]

Dan Marino


Name: Daniel Constantine Marino, Jr.
Height: 6-4
Weight: 224 lbs.
Born: September 15, 1961
College: Pittsburgh
Drafted: Selected by the Miami Dolphins in the first round (27th pick overall) of the 1983 NFL Draft.
Dan Marino started his NFL career in 1983 with the basic life statistics listed above. Seventeen years later, he finished with the incomparable stats listed below.
Quarterback graphic
Marino NFL records graphic
Most Attempts, Career: 8,358
Most Completions, Career: 4,967
Most Yards Passing, Career: 61,361
Most Touchdown Passes, Career: 420
Highest Pass Rating, Rookie Season: 96.0 in 1983
Highest Completion Percentage, Rookie Season: 58.45 in 1983 (296-173)
Most Yards Gained, Season: 5,084 in 1984
Most Games, 400 or more Yards Passing, Career: 13
Most Games, 400 or more Yards Passing, Season: 4 in 1984
Most Games, 300 or more Yards Passing, Career: 60
Most Seasons, 3,000 or more Yards Passing: 13 (1984-92, 1994-95, 1997-98)
Most Consecutive Seasons, 3,000 or more Yards Passing: 9 (1984-92)
Most Games, Four or more Touchdown Passes, Career: 21
Most Games, Four or more Touchdown Passes, Season: 6 in 1984
Most Consecutive Games, Four or more Touchdown Passes: 4 in 1984
Lowest Percentage, Passes Intercepted, Rookie Season: 2.03 in 1983 (296-6)
Most Seasons Leading League, Attempts: 5 (1984, 1986, 1988, 1992, 1997)
Most Seasons Leading League, Completions: 6 (1984-86, 1988, 1992, 1997)
Most Seasons, 40 or more Touchdown Passes: 2 (1984, 1986)
Most Seasons, 20 or more Touchdown Passes: 13 (1983-92, 1994-95, 1998)
Most Consecutive Seasons, 20 or more Touchdown Passes: 10 (1983-92)
100 TD Passes in Fewest Amount of Games to Start Career: 44 (9/7/86 at S.D.)
200 TD passes in Fewest Amount of Games to Start Career: 89 ( 9/17/89 at N.E.)
300 TD passes in Fewest Amount of Games to Start Career: 157 ( 9/4/94 vs. N.E.)
Records Tied For Graphic
Most Seasons Leading League, Yards Gained: 5 (1984-86, 1988, 1992)
with Sonny Jurgensen (Philadelphia, 1961-62;Washington, 1966-67, 1969)
Most Consecutive Seasons Leading League, Completions: 3 (1984-86)
with George Blanda (Houston, 1963-65)
Most Consecutive Games, 400 or more Yards Passing: 2 (1984)
with Dan Fouts (San Diego, 1982) and Phil Simms (N.Y. Giants, 1985)
Most Consecutive Seasons, 4,000 or more Yards Passing: 3 (1984-86)
with Dan Fouts (San Diego, 1979-81)
Additional Statistics graphic
Regular Season :

* Played 242 games, starting 240 of them
* Career completion percentage of 59.4%
* Career passing efficiency rating is 86.4
* Threw 252 interceptions in his career
* Only QB in NFL history to have six 4,000-yard seasons (1984-86, 1988, 1992, 1994)
* Led 37 fourth-quarter comeback victories, second only to John Elway.
* Holds Dolphins team record for most seasons played, 17.
* Had 116 wins under Don Shula – the most by a head coach - quarterback combination in NFL history.
* Won the AFC Offensive Player of the Week honor 18 times in the regular season (and 20 times overall, including playoffs).

Playoffs :

* Passed for 4,510 yards over career in playoff games
* Threw at least one touchdown pass in 16 of his 18 playoff contests, throwing a TD pass in his first 13 postseason contests.

Other :

* Selected to nine Pro Bowls (1983-87, 1991-92, 1994-95), including seven as a starter (1983-86, 1992, 1994-95). Due to injuries, played only two games (1984, 1992).

nice stats man, very nice

the fact that favre has MORE records and passed most all those stats and has had 3 MVP's and SUPER BOWL ring shoots him much higher than marino

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Dan Marino


Name: Daniel Constantine Marino, Jr.
Height: 6-4
Weight: 224 lbs.
Born: September 15, 1961
College: Pittsburgh
Drafted: Selected by the Miami Dolphins in the first round (27th pick overall) of the 1983 NFL Draft.
Dan Marino started his NFL career in 1983 with the basic life statistics listed above. Seventeen years later, he finished with the incomparable stats listed below.
Quarterback graphic
Marino NFL records graphic
Most Attempts, Career: 8,358
Most Completions, Career: 4,967
Most Yards Passing, Career: 61,361
Most Touchdown Passes, Career: 420
Highest Pass Rating, Rookie Season: 96.0 in 1983
Highest Completion Percentage, Rookie Season: 58.45 in 1983 (296-173)
Most Yards Gained, Season: 5,084 in 1984
Most Games, 400 or more Yards Passing, Career: 13
Most Games, 400 or more Yards Passing, Season: 4 in 1984
Most Games, 300 or more Yards Passing, Career: 60
Most Seasons, 3,000 or more Yards Passing: 13 (1984-92, 1994-95, 1997-98)
Most Consecutive Seasons, 3,000 or more Yards Passing: 9 (1984-92)
Most Games, Four or more Touchdown Passes, Career: 21
Most Games, Four or more Touchdown Passes, Season: 6 in 1984
Most Consecutive Games, Four or more Touchdown Passes: 4 in 1984
Lowest Percentage, Passes Intercepted, Rookie Season: 2.03 in 1983 (296-6)
Most Seasons Leading League, Attempts: 5 (1984, 1986, 1988, 1992, 1997)
Most Seasons Leading League, Completions: 6 (1984-86, 1988, 1992, 1997)
Most Seasons, 40 or more Touchdown Passes: 2 (1984, 1986)
Most Seasons, 20 or more Touchdown Passes: 13 (1983-92, 1994-95, 1998)
Most Consecutive Seasons, 20 or more Touchdown Passes: 10 (1983-92)
100 TD Passes in Fewest Amount of Games to Start Career: 44 (9/7/86 at S.D.)
200 TD passes in Fewest Amount of Games to Start Career: 89 ( 9/17/89 at N.E.)
300 TD passes in Fewest Amount of Games to Start Career: 157 ( 9/4/94 vs. N.E.)
Records Tied For Graphic
Most Seasons Leading League, Yards Gained: 5 (1984-86, 1988, 1992)
with Sonny Jurgensen (Philadelphia, 1961-62;Washington, 1966-67, 1969)
Most Consecutive Seasons Leading League, Completions: 3 (1984-86)
with George Blanda (Houston, 1963-65)
Most Consecutive Games, 400 or more Yards Passing: 2 (1984)
with Dan Fouts (San Diego, 1982) and Phil Simms (N.Y. Giants, 1985)
Most Consecutive Seasons, 4,000 or more Yards Passing: 3 (1984-86)
with Dan Fouts (San Diego, 1979-81)
Additional Statistics graphic
Regular Season :

* Played 242 games, starting 240 of them
* Career completion percentage of 59.4%
* Career passing efficiency rating is 86.4
* Threw 252 interceptions in his career
* Only QB in NFL history to have six 4,000-yard seasons (1984-86, 1988, 1992, 1994)
* Led 37 fourth-quarter comeback victories, second only to John Elway.
* Holds Dolphins team record for most seasons played, 17.
* Had 116 wins under Don Shula – the most by a head coach - quarterback combination in NFL history.
* Won the AFC Offensive Player of the Week honor 18 times in the regular season (and 20 times overall, including playoffs).

Playoffs :

* Passed for 4,510 yards over career in playoff games
* Threw at least one touchdown pass in 16 of his 18 playoff contests, throwing a TD pass in his first 13 postseason contests.

Other :

* Selected to nine Pro Bowls (1983-87, 1991-92, 1994-95), including seven as a starter (1983-86, 1992, 1994-95). Due to injuries, played only two games (1984, 1992).

nice stats man, very nice

the fact that favre has MORE records and passed most all those stats and has had 3 MVP's and SUPER BOWL ring shoots him much higher than marino

Favre has been playing longer than Mariono. Granted favre is not bad. But really if you break it down to year to year stats Marino beats out favre. And i know you copy and pasted those states. Cheater

[JOHNNYROCKET24]

ok is it:


joe montana


terry bradshaw


joe nammath- should not be on this list


roger staubach


brett favre


peyton manning


tom brady-winner


dan marino- never won a superbowl


john elway


johnny unitas-should not be on this list


sid luckman


otto graham


troy aikman


other?






defend your answer

[FiveThreeEight]

Favre has been playing longer than Mariono. Granted favre is not bad. But really if you break it down to year to year stats Marino beats out favre. And i know you copy and pasted those states. Cheater

I don't believe this argument against Favre works. The fact that he has played so long goes in his favor, in my opinion. Like I said, longevity goes a long way. How many consecutive games has he started? His toughness is one of the things that makes him so great.

[djt5483]

Favre has been playing longer than Mariono. Granted favre is not bad. But really if you break it down to year to year stats Marino beats out favre. And i know you copy and pasted those states. Cheater

I don't believe this argument against Favre works. The fact that he has played so long goes in his favor, in my opinion. Like I said, longevity goes a long way. How many consecutive games has he started? His toughness is one of the things that makes him so great.

it took favre more games to get all those records than what marino played, his decision making has never been good

[Sackett58]

He didn't have the build nor the arm, but he had the best eyes in the game. Joe Montana was one of the best come from behind quaterbacks I have ever seen. Four Super Bowl appearences and 4 Super Bowl wins tell it all. Each one of those wins he showed over a 100 QB rating for the game. But his biggest win was the 1979 Cotton Bowl where Notre Dame was down 34-12 with little over 7 minutes left in the game and rallied them back for a 35-34 with a touchdown pass on the final play.
He doesn't hold a lot of the records, but if I needed a win I'd rather have Montana. And I hate the Notre Dame Irish, so that says a lot there.

[FiveThreeEight]

Favre has been playing longer than Mariono. Granted favre is not bad. But really if you break it down to year to year stats Marino beats out favre. And i know you copy and pasted those states. Cheater

I don't believe this argument against Favre works. The fact that he has played so long goes in his favor, in my opinion. Like I said, longevity goes a long way. How many consecutive games has he started? His toughness is one of the things that makes him so great.

it took favre more games to get all those records than what marino played, his decision making has never been good

It may have taken more games, so give the stats to Marino. The mere fact that Favre won a Super Bowl pushes Favre past Marino. I think you could make a strong case for a few of the guys listed. Favre, Montana, maybe Marino, perhaps Brady and Manning in a few years. All of those guys have been or will be considered the best.

[Chadwick31]

Asking who the best quarterback is and who puts up the best statistics is two different things. You can't say that Marino is the best QB in history just because he has the best statistics. He never had a running game to speak of, so he basically had to throw the ball. However, he never won the Super Bowl, so I would doubt him being the best. Some of the smartest, best game managers as quarterbacks are Joe Montana and Tom Brady. Favre is one of the most physically gifted. You also have to realize that football 20 and 30 years ago was a different animal than today. Specimens like Otto Graham and Fran Tarkenton, given a short time to adjust to today's nuances of the game, might very be top-flight quarterbacks, but football was a more physical game concentrated on running the ball.

All that being said, I think that Brady has a shot at being the best. I've heard a lot of criticism against him this year, with all the credit being given to his new receiving corps and Belichick. But you have to realize that he won three Super Bowls with basically the Smurfs as his receivers, before Moss, Welker, Stallworth, and Gaffney ever came along! Manning got a Super Bowl win, certainly, but only after playing 6 or 7 years with a great receiving duo of Harrison and Wayne. Imagine what Brady could have done, if he had quality receivers all this time.

[Curmudgeonx]

Fran Tarkenton (sic)

Randall Cunningham

[jay_a2j]

Favre has been playing longer than Mariono. Granted favre is not bad. But really if you break it down to year to year stats Marino beats out favre. And i know you copy and pasted those states. Cheater

I don't believe this argument against Favre works. The fact that he has played so long goes in his favor, in my opinion. Like I said, longevity goes a long way. How many consecutive games has he started? His toughness is one of the things that makes him so great.

it took favre more games to get all those records than what marino played, his decision making has never been good

It may have taken more games, so give the stats to Marino. The mere fact that Favre won a Super Bowl pushes Favre past Marino. I think you could make a strong case for a few of the guys listed. Favre, Montana, maybe Marino, perhaps Brady and Manning in a few years. All of those guys have been or will be considered the best.

One man cannot take a team to the Super Bowl. Miami was one dimensional the majority of the years Marino played for them. They had no running game. The fact that Marino never won a Super Bowl does not take away from his greatness as a player.(He took his team to the Super Bowl in his rookie year, how many QB's can say that?)

[misterman10]

Joe Montana FTW. There's a reason he was known as "Joe Cool" and "The Comeback Kid"

[Blitzaholic]

Favre has been playing longer than Mariono. Granted favre is not bad. But really if you break it down to year to year stats Marino beats out favre. And i know you copy and pasted those states. Cheater

I don't believe this argument against Favre works. The fact that he has played so long goes in his favor, in my opinion. Like I said, longevity goes a long way. How many consecutive games has he started? His toughness is one of the things that makes him so great.

it took favre more games to get all those records than what marino played, his decision making has never been good

It may have taken more games, so give the stats to Marino. The mere fact that Favre won a Super Bowl pushes Favre past Marino. I think you could make a strong case for a few of the guys listed. Favre, Montana, maybe Marino, perhaps Brady and Manning in a few years. All of those guys have been or will be considered the best.

good point

[Blitzaholic]

Tom Brady hands down- He has had to struggle to make it to the top. I mean 6th round draft choice as a QB. That kid had to impress someone to earn the starting role.

Tom Brady only got his chance because Drew Bledsoe got hurt, otherwise there is a decent chance he would still be riding the pine. Granted, once he got his chance he has definitely made the most of it.

Now with that said:

1. Brett Favre

He currently holds all of the major records, has a Super Bowl win and a respectable shot at one this year as well, not to mention his previous MVP seasons.

2. Dan Marino

There is nobody that would have argued him NOT being the best ever until Brett Favre broke his records this year. However, in my book the fact that he did not win a Super Bowl taints his ability somewhat.

T-3. Tom Brady and Peyton Manning

These two are soon going to pass Dan Marino for second place on the list, however, at the moment I cannot distinguish between the two with any certainty. Tom Brady has the Super Bowl wins and the flash of this particular season, but Peyton Manning has a much better shot at being the man who holds all of the all-time career records when all is said and done. Barring injuries to both of these guys I have a feeling they will eventually be 1 and 2 in all major statistical categories. I also believe that while Brady has all the Super Bowl wins now, Peyton will add a few more to his resume in the years to come.

like the break down here

[Black sun 35]

Brett Farve all the way!

[djt5483]

ok so brad johnson is better than marino? is trent dilfer better than marino? super bowls have nothing to do with a QBs ability, its kinda hard to win a super bowl without a running game, manning won his becuz of his running backs, the cowboys won all theirs becuz of a their running game

[Blitzaholic]

i would vote for favre

[Blitzaholic]

Joe Montana FTW. There's a reason he was known as "Joe Cool" and "The Comeback Kid"

hard to argue with him, classic pics

[Lucky Se7en]

manning won his becuz of his running backs

No, it's the other way around. Addai & Rhodes won because of Manning

[Blitzaholic]

oh, good point

[Senfive]

Dan Marino


Name: Daniel Constantine Marino, Jr.
Height: 6-4
Weight: 224 lbs.
Born: September 15, 1961
College: Pittsburgh
Drafted: Selected by the Miami Dolphins in the first round (27th pick overall) of the 1983 NFL Draft.
Dan Marino started his NFL career in 1983 with the basic life statistics listed above. Seventeen years later, he finished with the incomparable stats listed below.
Quarterback graphic
Marino NFL records graphic
Most Attempts, Career: 8,358
Most Completions, Career: 4,967
Most Yards Passing, Career: 61,361
Most Touchdown Passes, Career: 420
Highest Pass Rating, Rookie Season: 96.0 in 1983
Highest Completion Percentage, Rookie Season: 58.45 in 1983 (296-173)
Most Yards Gained, Season: 5,084 in 1984
Most Games, 400 or more Yards Passing, Career: 13
Most Games, 400 or more Yards Passing, Season: 4 in 1984
Most Games, 300 or more Yards Passing, Career: 60
Most Seasons, 3,000 or more Yards Passing: 13 (1984-92, 1994-95, 1997-98)
Most Consecutive Seasons, 3,000 or more Yards Passing: 9 (1984-92)
Most Games, Four or more Touchdown Passes, Career: 21
Most Games, Four or more Touchdown Passes, Season: 6 in 1984
Most Consecutive Games, Four or more Touchdown Passes: 4 in 1984
Lowest Percentage, Passes Intercepted, Rookie Season: 2.03 in 1983 (296-6)
Most Seasons Leading League, Attempts: 5 (1984, 1986, 1988, 1992, 1997)
Most Seasons Leading League, Completions: 6 (1984-86, 1988, 1992, 1997)
Most Seasons, 40 or more Touchdown Passes: 2 (1984, 1986)
Most Seasons, 20 or more Touchdown Passes: 13 (1983-92, 1994-95, 1998)
Most Consecutive Seasons, 20 or more Touchdown Passes: 10 (1983-92)
100 TD Passes in Fewest Amount of Games to Start Career: 44 (9/7/86 at S.D.)
200 TD passes in Fewest Amount of Games to Start Career: 89 ( 9/17/89 at N.E.)
300 TD passes in Fewest Amount of Games to Start Career: 157 ( 9/4/94 vs. N.E.)
Records Tied For Graphic
Most Seasons Leading League, Yards Gained: 5 (1984-86, 1988, 1992)
with Sonny Jurgensen (Philadelphia, 1961-62;Washington, 1966-67, 1969)
Most Consecutive Seasons Leading League, Completions: 3 (1984-86)
with George Blanda (Houston, 1963-65)
Most Consecutive Games, 400 or more Yards Passing: 2 (1984)
with Dan Fouts (San Diego, 1982) and Phil Simms (N.Y. Giants, 1985)
Most Consecutive Seasons, 4,000 or more Yards Passing: 3 (1984-86)
with Dan Fouts (San Diego, 1979-81)
Additional Statistics graphic
Regular Season :

* Played 242 games, starting 240 of them
* Career completion percentage of 59.4%
* Career passing efficiency rating is 86.4
* Threw 252 interceptions in his career
* Only QB in NFL history to have six 4,000-yard seasons (1984-86, 1988, 1992, 1994)
* Led 37 fourth-quarter comeback victories, second only to John Elway.
* Holds Dolphins team record for most seasons played, 17.
* Had 116 wins under Don Shula – the most by a head coach - quarterback combination in NFL history.
* Won the AFC Offensive Player of the Week honor 18 times in the regular season (and 20 times overall, including playoffs).

Playoffs :

* Passed for 4,510 yards over career in playoff games
* Threw at least one touchdown pass in 16 of his 18 playoff contests, throwing a TD pass in his first 13 postseason contests.

Other :

* Selected to nine Pro Bowls (1983-87, 1991-92, 1994-95), including seven as a starter (1983-86, 1992, 1994-95). Due to injuries, played only two games (1984, 1992).

I agree. Greatest Quarterback to NEVER win a SUPERBOWL.

I really don't know. Out of the one's I have seen, I would have to say Elway.

Living in Los Angles, I have grown up a Broncos fan. (go figure) Elway was always the man to get it done when it mattered. I know alot of QB's are known for there one play at infamy. How many are known for a whole Drive? Not many. The Drive, aside he was clutch his last 2 seasons. His First Superbowl win was over the HEAVILY FAVORED Packers. Was he great that game, not really. Did he give his all every play, Yeah. Did he have a team to back him up, Yeah. I don't have alot of time to look up exact facts. But a quarterback who is willing to give up his body and also become famous for the helicopter hit in the SuperBowl gets my vote. I still believe if John hadn't retired they would have 3 peated.

[nagerous]

I skimmed through the thread and the only name I recognised was Water Boy so thats where my vote goes.

[Blitzaholic]

leading so far


favre 5
brady 3
elway 2
marino 2
montana 1
luckman 1