Owenator - I dont believe in improbable coincidence[cleared]

[owenator]

OR, they should simply make it where new recruits cannot join games against specific ranks. Instead, have them only be able to join in other games with other new recruits or maximum rank of 1st class private. And again, last time I checked...before my (premium) membership ran out, it was me who paid for it - not anyone else. And I expect to get my full worth. Again, if the hunters even dare to say that this will be "Noted" I'm not going to renew my membership at all.

[Fazeem]

owenator is a poor sport and quite abusive...this is on topic due to the point of the accuseds overall character...

[KraphtOne]

There Are Only About 40 Players Or So That Seem To Play Feudal Well...

Personally I Love The Map As It Takes Away From Getting Screwed On The Drop...

Owen Just Opens Up Games On A Map That He Loves To Play And Doesnt Have To Read Too Much Game Log To Win...

Wait For People To Noob Then Go Win...

He Does So Well Because He Has The Patience To Afford Him To...

You Don't Need Your Feudal Game To Be Filled With Noobs In Order To Win...

Just Needs To Have A Few Impatient People...

Anyway... Go Read Feudal Advice Topics Guys And Leave Owen Alone...

New Recruits On The Map.. Who Cares... I Know Plenty Of Majors That Don't Know What The Hell Their Doing On That Map Either...

~k1

.....and i'm already waiting on the "like you" response :0) but if not for feudal and arms race i'd be a cook :0p

[owenator]

owenator is a poor sport and quit abusive...

You meant "quite". By the way, stop spamming/trolling. Your post is off-topic and irrelevant.

[alster]

To me this isn't farming, but I do recall somebody got warned for CREATING too many games where new recruits joined. It was ridiculous, and unfortunately similar to this case. Don't warn Owenator, prevent newbies from playing Feudal.

Yeah. This is the case that I was referring to in my post above. I did a quick search but couldn't find it. If I remember correctly though, the settings there was pretty far-out. (And it was not made public whether games had been droped or not.) With respect to owenator, well, he's always been a stand-up guy as far as I know. And the settings aren't outrageous. So this seems to be a lot of fuss about very little IMO. Guess it can be [Noted] - but that means nothing really, that tag does not imply any sanction whatsoever.

[neanderpaul14]

he must do a lot of traveling. These multi's are from all over the world

Yes at last the truth comes out, Owen is in fact fabulously wealthy, yet sadly he is bored, so he spends all his time and vast sums of his fortune traveling the world and going into internet cafes to start new accounts. He then rushes back home to take his turns from Canada, just to rush off again back to his multitude of multis.

Or maybe he just loves playing Feudal War??

Owen is NOT a farmer, nor is he creating multis to join his games.

[army of nobunaga]

Army your not even 1/12th of the feudal player Owenator is. ? marks can't join 6player feudal games, but they can join 5player feudal, which is a real pain in the proverbial. 5player can require more skill as having a vacant castle makes one pay more attention to the game log, and adds more complexity to the game play. I like 5player but don't make that many as noobs keep on joining. Owen is not a farmer, and he is not a multi. Are you on his foe list by any chance? Might explain this sour grapes logic less accusation. Had you all wrong kid, was under the false impression that you were smart.

never said I was here to make friends. do some homework before you rail in here. I look at other "great players" marks dont join their fucking games like ducks to a pond. MY whole life in rl is centered around seeing and finding patterns, it carrys over here. Dont like me or this thread if you want, but I would still like the usual looksy into that everyone else gets.


and ps
kotoro if you are ever anything other than a flippint forum pissant troll, ill be damned that day son.

[army of nobunaga]

And for the fucking record... I never said he was noobie farming... and I dont give a f*ck if he was. I frankly wish I could find more question mark players to play.

All I fucking ask was a statistical lopsided join rate be looked into. And for the record? anyone can get an ip switch program and create players from all over the "world" and you guys know it.


im out.

peace

[colton24]

give him a break guys he's over in Iraq or Afganistan serving the US Army(?) to stop terrorists

[Tezu]

To me this isn't farming, but I do recall somebody got warned for CREATING too many games where new recruits joined. It was ridiculous, and unfortunately similar to this case. Don't warn Owenator, prevent newbies from playing Feudal.

Yeah. This is the case that I was referring to in my post above. I did a quick search but couldn't find it. If I remember correctly though, the settings there was pretty far-out. (And it was not made public whether games had been droped or not.) With respect to owenator, well, he's always been a stand-up guy as far as I know. And the settings aren't outrageous. So this seems to be a lot of fuss about very little IMO. Guess it can be [Noted] - but that means nothing really, that tag does not imply any sanction whatsoever.

I might be that one person you are refering to that got warned for creating games newbies would join. It was exactly the same case, I created 4, 5 and 6 player games on feudal, and the 4 & 5 player games would often fill up with newbies... I had to stop playing 4 and 5 ppl games, wich made me loose my practice on those, since they are very different from the 6ppl ones, with the empty castles and all...

I'm sure Owen is neither a farmer nor a multi.

But the important thing I wanted to say to the mods is: Please dissmiss this thread, Owen already said he won't renew his premium if this sensless acussation is even "noted", and I think it would be a real shame to loose a player like him. Instead, just restrict Feudal War so newbies can't join and all of us fans of that map can play whatever settings we want without this witch-hunt!

It's been said once and again, Feudal should be off-limits for newbies, please listen to us players instead of restricting us from playing the map and settings we want!

xoxo

[owenator]

Army your not even 1/12th of the feudal player Owenator is. ? marks can't join 6player feudal games, but they can join 5player feudal, which is a real pain in the proverbial. 5player can require more skill as having a vacant castle makes one pay more attention to the game log, and adds more complexity to the game play. I like 5player but don't make that many as noobs keep on joining. Owen is not a farmer, and he is not a multi. Are you on his foe list by any chance? Might explain this sour grapes logic less accusation. Had you all wrong kid, was under the false impression that you were smart.

never said I was here to make friends. do some homework before you rail in here. I look at other "great players" marks dont join their fucking games like ducks to a pond. MY whole life in rl is centered around seeing and finding patterns, it carrys over here. Dont like me or this thread if you want, but I would still like the usual looksy into that everyone else gets.


and ps
kotoro if you are ever anything other than a flippint forum pissant troll, ill be damned that day son.

That's baiting/flaming if I ever saw one

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7785

Just because you didn't directly attack another user does not make your post a meaningful contribution. If your post's intent was to provoke another user into an emotional response, to get under their skin or to otherwise piss them off, you're baiting them. Hopefully the user doesn't take the bait, but you'll probably get a warning from a mod.

[owenator]

And for the fucking record... I never said he was noobie farming... and I dont give a f*ck if he was. I frankly wish I could find more question mark players to play.

All I fucking ask was a statistical lopsided join rate be looked into. And for the record? anyone can get an ip switch program and create players from all over the "world" and you guys know it.


im out.

peace

I'll give him that...he never accused me of farming. He accused me of being a multi.

[Mr Changsha]

give him a break guys he's over in Iraq or Afganistan serving the US Army(?) to stop terrorists

Quite right. I'm fighting communism over here, with my every breath and with all my soul (no less), so I would hope any c and a thread I created would be supported on the same basis!

[army of nobunaga]

Just a follow up, because i think this thread has gone astray.

The topic is not one of the following nor are any of the following points that this thread is about:
1) Owenator newbie farming, which is still dont consider wrong.
2) My profession
3) how well liked he is
4) how un-well liked I am, at least aqui
5) how great he is at any map
6) how un-great I am at any map

This topic is on the following:
1) there is a pattern that occurs when he starts a 4 or 5 man feudal map
2) this pattern doesnt exist with any random subset of ppl I randomly checked before I created this thread
3) there is a very imperfect system of checks on CC, if you believe in this system at all then quit flaming this thread and let it be... I dont know if hes cheating, I hope not because that would be sad. My gut tells me he is fine, but my mind screams something is wrong.


that is all.

[RKCVED]

I have played with and against owen. Won some lost some. I have not seen any indication that he cheats (multi or farming)

He has always kept his word with me.

The following was some wall chat between owen and myself. He is not concerned about ranking but rather winning and having fun.

about time you got your damn hat back!

- by owenator on Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:12 am

Thanks about the hat. Easy come easy go lol

- by RKCVED on Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:45 pm

lol! Couldn't have said it any better myself!

- by owenator on Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:47 pm

Though I don't personnally know him my impression is that you are way off base on this one army of nobunaga

[Mr_Adams]

he must do a lot of traveling. These multi's are from all over the world

Yes at last the truth comes out, Owen is in fact fabulously wealthy, yet sadly he is bored, so he spends all his time and vast sums of his fortune traveling the world and going into internet cafes to start new accounts. He then rushes back home to take his turns from Canada, just to rush off again back to his multitude of multis.

Or maybe he just loves playing Feudal War??

Owen is NOT a farmer, nor is he creating multis to join his games.

I'm not going to read this BS, I'm just going to say that this was bound to happen eventualy. some idiot was going to accuse a high ranking feudal player, like myself only higher up, of farming because of the newbie deal. here's what's going on. ever since these idiots in "team CC" have iomplemented this homo- limited maps for newbies, we feudal players have been stormed by newbies. It sucks. I went to the forums for a while and let the new effects settle down. but the fact is that anybody who starts a 4 man feudal game is going to be swarmed by newbies until lack gets it through his head that feudal NEEDS to be taken of the list of games newbies can play. If owen is a farmer, then so am I!

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need I go on?

"... I dont believe in improbable coincidence" see dice threads

[BoganGod]

Army your not even 1/12th of the feudal player Owenator is. ? marks can't join 6player feudal games, but they can join 5player feudal, which is a real pain in the proverbial. 5player can require more skill as having a vacant castle makes one pay more attention to the game log, and adds more complexity to the game play. I like 5player but don't make that many as noobs keep on joining. Owen is not a farmer, and he is not a multi. Are you on his foe list by any chance? Might explain this sour grapes logic less accusation. Had you all wrong kid, was under the false impression that you were smart.

never said I was here to make friends. do some homework before you rail in here. I look at other "great players" marks dont join their fucking games like ducks to a pond. MY whole life in rl is centered around seeing and finding patterns, it carrys over here. Dont like me or this thread if you want, but I would still like the usual looksy into that everyone else gets.


and ps
kotoro if you are ever anything other than a flippint forum pissant troll, ill be damned that day son.

Do homework? Come on kid. You don't post a thread in here, unless you have a serious point(you don't), which leads me to believe that you hold a grudge against Owen. Thread fail. You don't join games like ducks to a pond... So your scared of playing good players. Interesting.. Would like more ? marks to join your games. Wow.

[darkangelsguy205]

he should be band of farming 2

[owenator]

he should be band of farming 2

care to write that in English?

[neanderpaul14]

give him a break guys he's over in Iraq or Afganistan serving the US Army(?) to stop terrorists

And I'm in Connecticut and I'm fighting to stop sobriety.

[king achilles]

I checked if owenator is a multi with any new recruit and he is cleared. He also has a mixture of opponents.

For a newbie farming case possibility, I think it is no longer surprising that Feudal map is one of those maps that certain people have loved to use and create games from it, which coincidentally, many new recruits actually join. One question to ponder for one's intention is, would you love the map this much if you were not playing with new recruits most of the time?

I will be less strict from now on regarding this newbie farming rule as I do not want to dictate how a player wishes to enjoy the game on this site.

If the accused is the one joining the games and/or we see evidence that he/she is inviting new recruits, then we probably have a case to look at.

Still, if a player has mostly new recruits as his opponents in his collection of games with a specific setting, we might suggest to change your preferred settings from time to time in respect of the newbie farming rule.

If we get reports or comments about certain maps that have been 'abused' because they lure too many new recruits often, who knows, there could be some adjustments to further balance the games out there.

[neanderpaul14]

One question to ponder for one's intention is, would you love the map this much if you were not playing with new recruits most of the time?



Still, if a player has mostly new recruits as his opponents in his collection of games with a specific setting, we might suggest to change your preferred settings from time to time in respect of the newbie farming rule.

If we get reports or comments about certain maps that have been 'abused' because they lure too many new recruits often, who knows, there could be some adjustments to further balance the games out there.

Why isn't Feudal one of the maps that new recruits can't join???? It isn't exactly a straight forward map.

[BoganGod]

A large number of people have asked that same question Paul, with no real coherent response from the powers that be.

[army of nobunaga]

Do homework? Come on kid. You don't post a thread in here, unless you have a serious point(you don't), which leads me to believe that you hold a grudge against Owen. Thread fail. You don't join games like ducks to a pond... So your scared of playing good players. Interesting.. Would like more ? marks to join your games. Wow.

just let me sum this up

THanx for checking IPS mods, hope you looked at proxy releys, but im sure you did.

Sorry owenator. Regardless of the outcome if i didnt think I had a case I would not have posted. There are a lot of cheaters in this game and in my mind its sad so I always do my part to report them.

for the record BG.. I dont hold grudges... not in RL especially in a dumb game.
and also for the record , there is a short list of what Im afraid of. Far from that list is playing any motherfucker in CC.


take care all.

b

[Mr_Adams]

One question to ponder for one's intention is, would you love the map this much if you were not playing with new recruits most of the time?

This problem didn't occur until new recruits were restricted on the maps they could play on. you would have 1 new recruit max in a game. to be honest, the new recruits are a nuisance now, because they are so unpredictable, and you'll end up with an early suicide about 50% more offten.