Owenator - I dont believe in improbable coincidence[cleared]

[army of nobunaga]

http://www.conquerclub.com/player.php?m ... nator&so=D


anyone else see a pattern that doesn't hold true for virtually every other player?

listen If you know where everyone is at on this map, you have it won... I know fuedal.
I am always very suspicious when "new" players that seem to dog a persons match no matter what.

i seriously hope im wrong.. CC is such a stupid game to cheat at and i pity people whose lives are so empty they need to... SO Im accusing this guy with the hopes that ill just be another asshole accusing someone falsely.

but this needed to be done.

thanx

</DELETE ME>

Accused:

Owenater of starting a multi in nearly every match of fuedal he plays.





The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis




Game number(s):

[game]xxxxxxx[/game]
[game]xxxxxxx[/game]
[game]xxxxxxx[/game]
[game]xxxxxxx[/game]



Comments:

[Strife]

If this is serious, I really doubt that any of those accounts are his multi(s). I suppose by site standards that may constitute newbie farming though.

[Jace22]

I don't see how this is newbie farming either as he is starting public games and newbies are joining after him

[Strife]

I don't see how this is newbie farming either as he is starting public games and newbies are joining after him

Well, if you start a game with the style that "attracts" newbies that has constituted farming in past cases.

[army of nobunaga]

take a look at my games playing guys...

I think I know feudal aND what is attracted there...


ITs just too strange of a coincidence at least for me. Do a random survey of anyones games...

1) do they have a newbie in virtually EVERY game they start?
2) do they have a newbie in virtually every game they start and one map WITH fog in particular
3) does the newbie(s) start at virtually the same position?


I dunno... im not a paranoid guy... just my gut says something isnt right here.

[colton24]

i dont blame you noob farming army i joined a game few days ago me and him are the only new recruits in there

[Strife]

i dont blame you noob farming army i joined a game few days ago me and him are the only new recruits in there

What... you're a cook not a new recruit, and what is the rest of that supposed to mean?

[Kotaro]

Bullshit report. owenator doesn't multi.

What is this, the 35th time someones played with you, showed no suspicous play, and been reported by you during the game, army of nobunaga?

[colton24]

Bullshit report. owenator doesn't multi.

What is this, the 35th time someones played with you, showed no suspicous play, and been reported by you during the game, army of nobunaga?

dont give him a hard time kot he's serving umm i would guess the US over in Iraq

[Kotaro]

army of nobunaga is 1 for 6, and the 1 he did get, was extremely obvious. All other 5 were just army starting to lose and he reported them.

[owenator]

http://www.conquerclub.com/player.php?mode=find&submit=Search&p1=owenator&so=D


anyone else see a pattern that doesn't hold true for virtually every other player?

listen If you know where everyone is at on this map, you have it won... I know fuedal.
I am always very suspicious when "new" players that seem to dog a persons match no matter what.

i seriously hope im wrong.. CC is such a stupid game to cheat at and i pity people whose lives are so empty they need to... SO Im accusing this guy with the hopes that ill just be another asshole accusing someone falsely.

but this needed to be done.

thanx

</DELETE ME>

Accused:

Owenater of starting a multi in nearly every match of fuedal he plays.





The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis




Game number(s):

[game]xxxxxxx[/game]
[game]xxxxxxx[/game]
[game]xxxxxxx[/game]
[game]xxxxxxx[/game]



Comments:

Ummm....listen, do me a favour and look up in the dictionary the following word: hypocrite.

Game 5440498 - 4 player game
Game 5434213 - 3 player game, game created by a new recruit
Game 5432565 - 4 player/dubs - game created by a cook
Game 5420747 - 4 player assassin
Game 5420233 - 4 player sequential
Game 5420127 - 4 player assassin sequential
Game 5420123 - 3 player sequential
Game 5420120 - 3 player freestyle sequential
Game 5419653 - 4 player sequential: 1st class private (64 games completed), corporal (221 games completed), cook

Please. I don't farm. YOU do - obviously. MY games are CREATED. I don't control who joins them. I purposely created those games because 5-6 player games takes too long and 1 vs. 1 games are trivial points.

SO Im accusing this guy with the hopes that ill just be another asshole accusing someone falsely.

you said it - not me.

[thelastpatriot]

he must do a lot of traveling. These multi's are from all over the world

[chemefreak]

Owen does not need to cheat to win on that map!!! This is a waste of a thread....next!

[LFAW]

Lol this is bollocks.

[alster]

Please. I don't farm. YOU do - obviously. MY games are CREATED. I don't control who joins them. I purposely created those games because 5-6 player games takes too long and 1 vs. 1 games are trivial points.

Actually, the creator of games may be deemed to farm in breach of the anti-farming under certain circumstances, e.g. if:

- Setting up a number of games just to subsequently drop games with non-? in them keeping games with ?s.
- Setting up games in large quantities that, as record or experience shows, tend to attract ?s in large quantities.

Here, if you say it’s not a case of the first instance (and that is not proven otherwise, e.g. by the hunters accessing your records of games set up/games dropped) and you say that you’re not aware of the second instance being the case, well, that’s fine by everyone. However, looking at your game list, well, there are quite a few ?s in your games. I wouldn’t be surprised if you got a warning telling you to be careful, implying e.g. to drop games with ?s in and/or alternate settings.

Just to be clear, this is just an observation. Personally, I place no value or pass any judgment on your game list. It’s fine with me, I don’t play those settings but I don’t care if people do.

[BoganGod]

Army your not even 1/12th of the feudal player Owenator is. ? marks can't join 6player feudal games, but they can join 5player feudal, which is a real pain in the proverbial. 5player can require more skill as having a vacant castle makes one pay more attention to the game log, and adds more complexity to the game play. I like 5player but don't make that many as noobs keep on joining. Owen is not a farmer, and he is not a multi. Are you on his foe list by any chance? Might explain this sour grapes logic less accusation. Had you all wrong kid, was under the false impression that you were smart.

[squishyg]

How can you doubt a cute little frog and his shovel? Please make this cleared asap.

[Tupence]

i dont blame you noob farming army i joined a game few days ago me and him are the only new recruits in there

What... you're a cook not a new recruit, and what is the rest of that supposed to mean?

He must've confused himself with another of his multis...

[HardAttack]

As far as i know owenator, he is not someone to cheat. This accuasition will be investigated by moderators for sure, and i am almost certain that owenator will be cleared.

On the other hand, maybe, the map feudal should be included in the list of hard maps which are not allowed new recruits to play unless they pass the 5 games bareer.

MY ANSWERs to army of nobunaga's QUESTIONS

take a look at my games playing guys...

I think I know feudal aND what is attracted there...


ITs just too strange of a coincidence at least for me. Do a random survey of anyones games...

1) do they have a newbie in virtually EVERY game they start?
Owenator run off his premium very recently, and opened a lot of same setting games on feudal map. He is one of those 500+ feudal lovers and one of 100+ high skilled feudal players. Simple, he loves to play feudal a lot but nothing else. I think this is understandable.
2) do they have a newbie in virtually every game they start and one map WITH fog in particular
If you open a game to which new recruits are able to join, then they appear in any type of game regardless of its being fog/sunny - easy-hard map, they do-dont understand the map how it works etc. I know this with my exprience. If you are not running your game private and if your game waits enough long in join a game list, then you will see at least 1 2 maybe more new recruits in your game which is normal, and even in your all games. Again, he opened a lot of same setting games before he run out his premium, and those games they are you are pointing out.
3) does the newbie(s) start at virtually the same position?
Exactly they start in 4th position most of times in 4 player multiplayer game. That is because they are freemiums, and they do not like to wait a game to fill but they prefer games which to start after their joining in. This is why you see new recruits in last seats in most of games.


I dunno... im not a paranoid guy... just my gut says something isnt right here.

Dear army of nobunaga, i hope i made some points you will find convincing. Again, owenator is not someone cheap to cheat. He is sweet, he is fair, he is a nice individual. Not an ass.

Anyway, everyone can be accused of cheating, which is normal, and i am sure owen will get cleared.

Btw, kotaro, your style of approaching to matters still no good. What more sad is, you are still keeping your style. Grow up

[HardAttack]

army of nobunaga is 1 for 6, and the 1 he did get, was extremely obvious. All other 5 were just army starting to lose and he reported them.

Army of nobunaga will keep reporting anyone he believes to be cheating whatever number he was proven to be correct or not. His 1 catch in 6 attempt does not mean his 7th will be successfull or not. And your bringing it here is nothing to do with subject. If you have got to say to support accuse maker/accused one then say it. But do not dirth everywhere with unnecesary spams Kotty.

Look man, you are becoming funny funny funny and funny by time keeps going. Go, breath, take a deeeeep breath, shut up for a 5 10 days, let time be your medicine and hope ppl will start thinking of kotty grew up some. Then we all will love you kid.

[owenator]

Please. I don't farm. YOU do - obviously. MY games are CREATED. I don't control who joins them. I purposely created those games because 5-6 player games takes too long and 1 vs. 1 games are trivial points.

Actually, the creator of games may be deemed to farm in breach of the anti-farming under certain circumstances, e.g. if:

- Setting up a number of games just to subsequently drop games with non-? in them keeping games with ?s.
- Setting up games in large quantities that, as record or experience shows, tend to attract ?s in large quantities.

Here, if you say it’s not a case of the first instance (and that is not proven otherwise, e.g. by the hunters accessing your records of games set up/games dropped) and you say that you’re not aware of the second instance being the case, well, that’s fine by everyone. However, looking at your game list, well, there are quite a few ?s in your games. I wouldn’t be surprised if you got a warning telling you to be careful, implying e.g. to drop games with ?s in and/or alternate settings.

Just to be clear, this is just an observation. Personally, I place no value or pass any judgment on your game list. It’s fine with me, I don’t play those settings but I don’t care if people do.

No worries...I know you're just playing devils advocate. However on your point of saying how the hunters may deem that if there is a certain pattern, to farm new recruits, why would the allow people to create 3 or 4 player games? Might as well not give ANYONE the choice to do so. If I get a warning or if this is even noted, I'm definitely not renewing my premium membership as I've already been contemplating doing so.

[HardAttack]

As soon as you are host of the game and not inviting those new recruits, you will not get a warning of farming king_owen. Cos it is not what farming is.

[owenator]

As soon as you are host of the game and not inviting those new recruits, you will not get a warning of farming king_owen. Cos it is not what farming is.

Thanks H.A. - apparently not the consensus of what some people think...especially the OP. Which is why, I provided game links (unlike him) showing that if I'm guilty, then he should be too. I don't join games with noobs like he did. If I joined a public game, you can be sure it'll be against people who have rank.

[TheBro]

To me this isn't farming, but I do recall somebody got warned for CREATING too many games where new recruits joined. It was ridiculous, and unfortunately similar to this case. Don't warn Owenator, prevent newbies from playing Feudal.

[HardAttack]

To me this isn't farming, but I do recall somebody got warned for CREATING too many games where new recruits joined. It was ridiculous, and unfortunately similar to this case. Don't warn Owenator, prevent newbies from playing Feudal.

Agreed