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What's the average number of inflation points each player has on CC?

Poll ended at Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:42 am

 
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e_i_pi wrote:Sully, your solution is good, but it doesn't quite hit the nail on the head. I applaud you for it though, because it does kill two flu-bearing animals with one palm-sized hard thing. There's a neater solution though:

Set up a CRON process that runs once per week or month. The process totals the points on the scoreboard, totals the players, and the above/below 1000 points gets added/subtracted from every current players score.

It's a simple solution, requires zero maintenance, and would take maybe 30 minutes to code. It is automated, accurate, and unbiased.

So players could lose or attain rank from a weekly cron job? That's not going to go over well if you work hard to be a general then from cron job comes and steals 5 points, busting you back to a lower rank.
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so shouldnt it be more of a proportion
if someone has 5000 points then they have more of the inflated points then someone with 800
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sully800 wrote:I've said it before and I'll say it again: There's a simple solution to point inflation that will also dramatically reduce the impact of noob farming.

Change the score formula to loser/winner*20 - 1, but subtract the same amount of points from the losers.

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Hey... I've suggested this before...

It's just like the house rake in poker... or better still, it's the penny ante...

In any case... seems simple to me and I LIKE IT! =D>



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Instead of trying to kill 2 birds with one stone,
I think you're saying that ONE Rock in hand is better than 2 birds on a wire :lol:
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Robinette wrote:
sully800 wrote:I've said it before and I'll say it again: There's a simple solution to point inflation that will also dramatically reduce the impact of noob farming.

Change the score formula to loser/winner*20 - 1, but subtract the same amount of points from the losers.

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Hey... I've suggested this before...

It's just like the house rake in poker... or better still, it's the penny ante...

In any case... seems simple to me and I LIKE IT! =D>



Now for the pics....
Instead of trying to kill 2 birds with one stone,
I think you're saying that ONE Rock in hand is better than 2 birds on a wire :lol:

or 'Two sticky birds come before one Rock in the palm!'?
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Timminz wrote:
e_i_pi wrote:Of course, the next question is: "How do you address points inflation?"
No Points For New Recruit Deadbeats

Not perfect, but it would be a start.
This is the only "solution" I see being a good option tbh.
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Thezzaruz wrote:
Timminz wrote:
e_i_pi wrote:Of course, the next question is: "How do you address points inflation?"
No Points For New Recruit Deadbeats

Not perfect, but it would be a start.
This is the only "solution" I see being a good option tbh.
Absolutely. Cut off the problem at it's source.
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i think everyone should point dump 200 points to be and just pretend i dont exist 8-[
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Timminz wrote:
Thezzaruz wrote:
Timminz wrote:
e_i_pi wrote:Of course, the next question is: "How do you address points inflation?"
No Points For New Recruit Deadbeats

Not perfect, but it would be a start.
This is the only "solution" I see being a good option tbh.
Absolutely. Cut off the problem at it's source.
Nah, don't believe in changing an old policy on that, see:

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... f=1&t=3057

Besides, let's wait and see whether point inflation indeed is a problem or not (i.e. in a few days when the promised stats are released).
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alstergren wrote: Besides, let's wait and see whether point inflation indeed is a problem or not (i.e. in a few days when the promised stats are released).
Have a look at page 3... ;)
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alstergren wrote:
Timminz wrote:
Thezzaruz wrote:
Timminz wrote:
e_i_pi wrote:Of course, the next question is: "How do you address points inflation?"
No Points For New Recruit Deadbeats

Not perfect, but it would be a start.
This is the only "solution" I see being a good option tbh.
Absolutely. Cut off the problem at it's source.
Nah, don't believe in changing an old policy on that, see:

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... f=1&t=3057

Besides, let's wait and see whether point inflation indeed is a problem or not (i.e. in a few days when the promised stats are released).
Maybe I'm missing the correlation, but that link is to the announcement of the introduction of terminator games.
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Timminz wrote:Maybe I'm missing the correlation, but that link is to the announcement of the introduction of terminator games.

He's talking about this part...
Deadbeats Lose Points:
Sometimes people don't like the way the game was initialized and decide to go deadbeat on purpose to avoid playing the game. While working on a way to discourage deadbeating, I began to reconsider my decision to take deadbeats out of the points. Besides "strategic deadbeating" it caused other problems - confusion between auto-kick and the deadbeat/points rule and players being robbed of points after winning the game in round two. So, I scrapped the entire deadbeat/points rule. Everyone in the game will now gain or lose points whether they play or not.
But he's missed out on noticing that you and I are talking only about New Recruits.

Cue the argument "New Recruits will deabeat on purpose"
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new recruits get 0 points at start instead of 1000. goodbye inflation!
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izacque wrote:new recruits get 0 points at start instead of 1000. goodbye inflation!
Hello MASSIVE deflation! The collapse of the scoring system.
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Timminz wrote:
izacque wrote:new recruits get 0 points at start instead of 1000. goodbye inflation!
Hello MASSIVE deflation! The collapse of the scoring system.
Conquer Club members are initially given a score of 1000. At the end of each game, the winner takes points away from each loser. The points to be awarded is calculated as (loser's score / winner's score) * 20, up to a maximum of 100 points from each opponent.
ZOMG ITS THE DREADED DIVIDE BY ZERO ERROR
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Had to scroll back up to make sure that wasn't a Robinette post. :lol:
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e_i_pi wrote:
Timminz wrote:Maybe I'm missing the correlation, but that link is to the announcement of the introduction of terminator games.

He's talking about this part...
Deadbeats Lose Points:
Sometimes people don't like the way the game was initialized and decide to go deadbeat on purpose to avoid playing the game. While working on a way to discourage deadbeating, I began to reconsider my decision to take deadbeats out of the points. Besides "strategic deadbeating" it caused other problems - confusion between auto-kick and the deadbeat/points rule and players being robbed of points after winning the game in round two. So, I scrapped the entire deadbeat/points rule. Everyone in the game will now gain or lose points whether they play or not.
But he's missed out on noticing that you and I are talking only about New Recruits.

Cue the argument "New Recruits will deabeat on purpose"
Nah. I noticed that distinction. However, it seems arcane to mess up the straight-forward point system with one, single exception IMO. New recruits or not, deadbeats looses (and should loose) points.
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