[Poll] Points Inflation - Guess how much

[mibi]

Sully, your solution is good, but it doesn't quite hit the nail on the head. I applaud you for it though, because it does kill two flu-bearing animals with one palm-sized hard thing. There's a neater solution though:

Set up a CRON process that runs once per week or month. The process totals the points on the scoreboard, totals the players, and the above/below 1000 points gets added/subtracted from every current players score.

It's a simple solution, requires zero maintenance, and would take maybe 30 minutes to code. It is automated, accurate, and unbiased.

So players could lose or attain rank from a weekly cron job? That's not going to go over well if you work hard to be a general then from cron job comes and steals 5 points, busting you back to a lower rank.

[a.sub]

so shouldnt it be more of a proportion
if someone has 5000 points then they have more of the inflated points then someone with 800

[Robinette]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: There's a simple solution to point inflation that will also dramatically reduce the impact of noob farming.

Change the score formula to loser/winner*20 - 1, but subtract the same amount of points from the losers.

Hey... I've suggested this before...

It's just like the house rake in poker... or better still, it's the penny ante...

In any case... seems simple to me and I LIKE IT!



Now for the pics....
Instead of trying to kill 2 birds with one stone,
I think you're saying that ONE Rock in hand is better than 2 birds on a wire

[jiminski]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: There's a simple solution to point inflation that will also dramatically reduce the impact of noob farming.

Change the score formula to loser/winner*20 - 1, but subtract the same amount of points from the losers.

Hey... I've suggested this before...

It's just like the house rake in poker... or better still, it's the penny ante...

In any case... seems simple to me and I LIKE IT!



Now for the pics....
Instead of trying to kill 2 birds with one stone,
I think you're saying that ONE Rock in hand is better than 2 birds on a wire

or 'Two sticky birds come before one Rock in the palm!'?

[Thezzaruz]

Of course, the next question is: "How do you address points inflation?"

No Points For New Recruit Deadbeats

Not perfect, but it would be a start.

This is the only "solution" I see being a good option tbh.

[Timminz]

Of course, the next question is: "How do you address points inflation?"

No Points For New Recruit Deadbeats

Not perfect, but it would be a start.

This is the only "solution" I see being a good option tbh.

Absolutely. Cut off the problem at it's source.

[a.sub]

i think everyone should point dump 200 points to be and just pretend i dont exist

[alster]

Of course, the next question is: "How do you address points inflation?"

No Points For New Recruit Deadbeats

Not perfect, but it would be a start.

This is the only "solution" I see being a good option tbh.

Absolutely. Cut off the problem at it's source.

Nah, don't believe in changing an old policy on that, see:

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3057

Besides, let's wait and see whether point inflation indeed is a problem or not (i.e. in a few days when the promised stats are released).

[Thezzaruz]

Besides, let's wait and see whether point inflation indeed is a problem or not (i.e. in a few days when the promised stats are released).

Have a look at page 3...

[Timminz]

Of course, the next question is: "How do you address points inflation?"

No Points For New Recruit Deadbeats

Not perfect, but it would be a start.

This is the only "solution" I see being a good option tbh.

Absolutely. Cut off the problem at it's source.

Nah, don't believe in changing an old policy on that, see:

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3057

Besides, let's wait and see whether point inflation indeed is a problem or not (i.e. in a few days when the promised stats are released).

Maybe I'm missing the correlation, but that link is to the announcement of the introduction of terminator games.

[e_i_pi]

Maybe I'm missing the correlation, but that link is to the announcement of the introduction of terminator games.

He's talking about this part...

Deadbeats Lose Points:
Sometimes people don't like the way the game was initialized and decide to go deadbeat on purpose to avoid playing the game. While working on a way to discourage deadbeating, I began to reconsider my decision to take deadbeats out of the points. Besides "strategic deadbeating" it caused other problems - confusion between auto-kick and the deadbeat/points rule and players being robbed of points after winning the game in round two. So, I scrapped the entire deadbeat/points rule. Everyone in the game will now gain or lose points whether they play or not.

But he's missed out on noticing that you and I are talking only about New Recruits.

Cue the argument "New Recruits will deabeat on purpose"

[izacque]

new recruits get 0 points at start instead of 1000. goodbye inflation!

[Timminz]

new recruits get 0 points at start instead of 1000. goodbye inflation!

Hello MASSIVE deflation! The collapse of the scoring system.

[a.sub]

new recruits get 0 points at start instead of 1000. goodbye inflation!

Hello MASSIVE deflation! The collapse of the scoring system.

Conquer Club members are initially given a score of 1000. At the end of each game, the winner takes points away from each loser. The points to be awarded is calculated as (loser's score / winner's score) * 20, up to a maximum of 100 points from each opponent.

ZOMG ITS THE DREADED DIVIDE BY ZERO ERROR

[john9blue]

Had to scroll back up to make sure that wasn't a Robinette post.

[alster]

Maybe I'm missing the correlation, but that link is to the announcement of the introduction of terminator games.

He's talking about this part...

Deadbeats Lose Points:
Sometimes people don't like the way the game was initialized and decide to go deadbeat on purpose to avoid playing the game. While working on a way to discourage deadbeating, I began to reconsider my decision to take deadbeats out of the points. Besides "strategic deadbeating" it caused other problems - confusion between auto-kick and the deadbeat/points rule and players being robbed of points after winning the game in round two. So, I scrapped the entire deadbeat/points rule. Everyone in the game will now gain or lose points whether they play or not.

But he's missed out on noticing that you and I are talking only about New Recruits.

Cue the argument "New Recruits will deabeat on purpose"

Nah. I noticed that distinction. However, it seems arcane to mess up the straight-forward point system with one, single exception IMO. New recruits or not, deadbeats looses (and should loose) points.