Non-VANILLA Game 3 *Game Over* 14 Winners

got tonkaed · Post by **got tonkaed** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:20 pm

it seems like hitman has acted really strange once a few votes have been placed on him, and i think this really does more than anything confirm that he is scum. I dont think hes really done anything to defend himself and hes done other scumish things so im not sure i feel the need to take off the vote yet.

Hitman079 · Post by **Hitman079** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:21 pm

if i defend myself too much, like after every accusation, then i will be lynched anyways..so what the hell am i supposed to do?
rhetorical question.

got tonkaed · Post by **got tonkaed** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:23 pm

well i havent played the game all that much, but ive found plenty of players who were capable of defending an accusation and when they do the burden is usually taken off of them. However when they doubt still lies there individuals still can act in a fashion to remove the doubt. Its just in your case i dont feel you have thats all.

Syzygy · Post by **Syzygy** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:27 pm

Hitman079 wrote:if i defend myself too much, like after every accusation, then i will be lynched anyways..so what the hell am i supposed to do?
rhetorical question.

At least try?

You seem kind of hopeless.

Hitman079 · Post by **Hitman079** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:30 pm

iono. how i try to defend myself and the reaction/consequences will depend on the people. right now i am trying to defend myself, but so far i have no profound arguments.

Colaalone · Post by **Colaalone** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:45 pm

Okay seriously, hitman doesn't seem that scummy to me. He seems more like a kid not willing to commit to the game and just skimming which isn't an 100% scum tell as some tend to think.

On a different not, Aegnor sure is pushing this lynch hard.
Comments such as:

Aegnor wrote:Alright, then it looks very fishy to me, I hope I didn't make a mistake by voting him.

REALLY makes me think he is scum. Looks like an attempt for a mafia who knows he voted to lynch townie trying to clear his name for later.

VOTE: Aegnor

Aegnor · Post by **Aegnor** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:55 pm

Hitman, you are only making yourself look bad. When I asked you were you were on Day1 (which clearly wasn't yesterday) you answered by saying that you spent yesterday ad Disneyland. You're not taking this game seriously enough.

Aegnor · Post by **Aegnor** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:57 pm

I'm not trying to push a lynch, just wondering if Hitman is acting like a fool on purpose or am I voting for the village idiot to be hung without him being a scum.

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:16 pm

Colaalone wrote:
Aegnor wrote:Alright, then it looks very fishy to me, I hope I didn't make a mistake by voting him.
REALLY makes me think he is scum. Looks like an attempt for a mafia who knows he voted to lynch townie trying to clear his name for later.

VOTE: Aegnor

You always need a degree of uncertainty when voting to lynch. FOS Colaalone

As for hitman, I would consult against voting for him. Why? Becuase I am trying to catch the serial killer (one poerson, one kill each night). We know that the serial killer A. killed mandy (very unlikely) B. got his kill protected (also unlikely) or C. Never set his action. Since hitman posted during the nighttime, we know that he did not have an action to send. SO he is not the serial killer OR the vig.

Colaalone · Post by **Colaalone** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:21 pm

unriggable wrote:You always need a degree of uncertainty when voting to lynch. FOS Colaalone

Yeah of course, but publicly annoucing it like that seems like nothing more than "DONT BLAME ME WHEN HE IS A TOWNIE"

Anarkistsdream · Post by **Anarkistsdream** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:22 pm

unriggable wrote:
Colaalone wrote:
Aegnor wrote:Alright, then it looks very fishy to me, I hope I didn't make a mistake by voting him.
REALLY makes me think he is scum. Looks like an attempt for a mafia who knows he voted to lynch townie trying to clear his name for later.

VOTE: Aegnor
You always need a degree of uncertainty when voting to lynch. FOS Colaalone

As for hitman, I would consult against voting for him. Why? Becuase I am trying to catch the serial killer (one poerson, one kill each night). We know that the serial killer A. killed mandy (very unlikely) B. got his kill protected (also unlikely) or C. Never set his action. Since hitman posted during the nighttime, we know that he did not have an action to send. SO he is not the serial killer OR the vig.

Damn, man... You are getting pretty good at this stuff... I find your logic very suitable...

Unvote

Aegnor · Post by **Aegnor** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:28 pm

You have good arguments there unriggable, although Hitmans behavior has been very suspicious so far, and as far as I know he could be scum, while an inactive SK would probably remain inactive for another night.
I'd rather try making progress and eliminate the (probably) inactive SK after the scum threat has been lifted.

everywhere116 · Post by **everywhere116** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:29 pm

unriggable wrote:
Colaalone wrote:
Aegnor wrote:Alright, then it looks very fishy to me, I hope I didn't make a mistake by voting him.
REALLY makes me think he is scum. Looks like an attempt for a mafia who knows he voted to lynch townie trying to clear his name for later.

VOTE: Aegnor
You always need a degree of uncertainty when voting to lynch. FOS Colaalone

As for hitman, I would consult against voting for him. Why? Becuase I am trying to catch the serial killer (one poerson, one kill each night). We know that the serial killer A. killed mandy (very unlikely) B. got his kill protected (also unlikely) or C. Never set his action. Since hitman posted during the nighttime, we know that he did not have an action to send. SO he is not the serial killer OR the vig.

That's great logic, unriggable.

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:30 pm

If there's a cheering smiley, I'd use it now.

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:31 pm

Colaalone wrote:
unriggable wrote:You always need a degree of uncertainty when voting to lynch. FOS Colaalone
Yeah of course, but publicly annoucing it like that seems like nothing more than "DONT BLAME ME WHEN HE IS A TOWNIE"

Well a few things come to mind - First of all it helps tear apart a role claim if we do lynch a townie by accident, and we know who not to trust (the bandwagoners)

Aegnor · Post by **Aegnor** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:32 pm

Hmm, do you have any thoughts about what I said in my previous post?

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:33 pm

Vote Count:
School(1): Shadowstar
Primate(1): Jnd
Jnd(3): Syzygy, Hitman079, Primate
Hitman079(3): GOt Tonkaed, Exile, Aegnor
Aengor(1): Colaalone

On another note. To get onto Fircoal's Good list, or to get off the bad, sleep on the ground list. Helping Fircoal with stuff, would be good.

Like right now, pm Fircoal to review his map of a game he may start here.

I MEAN DO IT!!!!

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:34 pm

To Aegnor:Yes, but then you don't get the full experience of the game. Just eliminating people who aren't posting trying to find an SK will just give mafia an extra night.

Aimless · Post by **Aimless** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:35 pm

unriggable wrote:As for hitman, I would consult against voting for him. Why? Becuase I am trying to catch the serial killer (one poerson, one kill each night). We know that the serial killer A. killed mandy (very unlikely) B. got his kill protected (also unlikely) or C. Never set his action. Since hitman posted during the nighttime, we know that he did not have an action to send. SO he is not the serial killer OR the vig.

I agree with this. I find it unlikely that Hitman is scum; it's possible that he is mafioso and was laying low during day one, but he is almost certainly not the SK or Vig. BTW, unriggable, I take it from that post that you know for certain that there is an SK? That's good to know; will help us narrow things down later.

Also, one other wild theory I'd like to throw out. Aegnor and jnd both seem to be acting fishy. This vote / counter-vote thing is doing a pretty good job of throwing spreading confusion around. I don't think both of them are scum, but I'd say there's maybe a 50% chance that one of them is.

Aegnor · Post by **Aegnor** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:40 pm

The only reason I changed my vote is because Hitman looks more suspicious to me at the moment than you Aimless. Had he not posted anything this day my vote would have still been on you.

Syzygy · Post by **Syzygy** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:41 pm

I doubt that Hitman's scummy either, he got voted for mainly as a result of his vote (right after mine) against jnd.

Also, aren't the vigilantes supposed to be good?

Anarkistsdream · Post by **Anarkistsdream** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:41 pm

Supposed to be...? They are pro-town, but they can make mistakes and kill the wrong person.

Syzygy · Post by **Syzygy** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:43 pm

Anarkistsdream wrote:Supposed to be...? They are pro-town, but they can make mistakes and kill the wrong person.

But if you have an experiened vig. who doesn't target people for stupid reasons then wouldn't he'd be more of an asset than a liabilty?

Anarkistsdream · Post by **Anarkistsdream** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:44 pm

Syzygy wrote:
Anarkistsdream wrote:Supposed to be...? They are pro-town, but they can make mistakes and kill the wrong person.
But if you have an experiened vig. who doesn't target people for stupid reasons then wouldn't he'd be more of an asset than a liabilty?

Unless he really thought Mandy was mafia.

got tonkaed · Post by **got tonkaed** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:44 pm

unvote clearly i was in the wrong about Hitman. Unrigg, do you have any leads on the sk so far?