tournament organizer rating

Suggestions that have been archived.

Moderator: Community Team

do you support this?

YES
29
76%
NO
3
8%
SOMEWHAT
6
16%
 
Total votes: 38

User avatar
WILLIAMS5232
Posts: 2232
Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2009 4:22 pm
Gender: Male
Location: Biloxi, Ms

tournament organizer rating

Post by WILLIAMS5232 »

Concise description:
  • the option to rate tournament organizers

Specifics/Details:
  • a ratings system similiar to rate players on how well a tournament organizer mangaes his tournaments

how will this benefit the site
  • this would possibly cut down on the amount of abandoned and neglected tournaments. and also give the person an idea on what to expect as far as how the tournament is run before he joins.
Last edited by WILLIAMS5232 on Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:22 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Image
chapcrap
Posts: 9686
Joined: Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:46 am
Gender: Male
Location: Kansas City

Re: tournament organizer rating

Post by chapcrap »

As a TO of over 50 tournaments (some ongoing), I support this. Not just for the tournament participants to get information on how good the tournament will be run, but also for the TOs to get feedback on how they are doing so that they know where they can improve and what the players would like to see done better and differently.
User avatar
Fuzzy316
Posts: 2231
Joined: Tue Oct 30, 2007 4:00 pm
Gender: Male

Re: tournament organizer rating

Post by Fuzzy316 »

I would support this as well. I think that there should be room for actual feedback, up to a certain number of characters, and not just a few radio buttons and star ratings alone. This allows for better feedback. Or perhaps, the option to "Send TO feedback" where they can send an email to the TO.
The Fuzzy One

[bigimg]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11482159/CC/TPA/Signature.Organizer.png[/bigimg]
User avatar
Dukasaur
Community Team
Community Team
Posts: 28220
Joined: Sat Nov 20, 2010 4:49 pm
Location: Beautiful Niagara

Re: tournament organizer rating

Post by Dukasaur »

chapcrap wrote:As a TO of over 50 tournaments (some ongoing), I support this. Not just for the tournament participants to get information on how good the tournament will be run, but also for the TOs to get feedback on how they are doing so that they know where they can improve and what the players would like to see done better and differently.

Fuzzy316 wrote:I would support this as well. I think that there should be room for actual feedback, up to a certain number of characters, and not just a few radio buttons and star ratings alone. This allows for better feedback. Or perhaps, the option to "Send TO feedback" where they can send an email to the TO.

+2
“‎Life is a shipwreck, but we must not forget to sing in the lifeboats.”
― Voltaire
User avatar
mcshanester29
Posts: 8662
Joined: Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:09 pm
Gender: Male
Location: ID, USA

Re: tournament organizer rating

Post by mcshanester29 »

I would definitely be in support of this suggestion!!
show

I am away from CC for a long break! John 3:16-17
User avatar
WILLIAMS5232
Posts: 2232
Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2009 4:22 pm
Gender: Male
Location: Biloxi, Ms

Re: tournament organizer rating

Post by WILLIAMS5232 »

chapcrap wrote:As a TO of over 50 tournaments (some ongoing), I support this. Not just for the tournament participants to get information on how good the tournament will be run, but also for the TOs to get feedback on how they are doing so that they know where they can improve and what the players would like to see done better and differently.


that's a good point about the feedback. that could only improve tournaments. it would never make them worse. :-k
Image
User avatar
mr. CD
Posts: 1692
Joined: Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:31 pm
Gender: Male
Location: In a tree

Re: tournament organizer rating

Post by mr. CD »

Yep, agreed.
User avatar
koontz1973
Posts: 6960
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 2009 10:57 am

Re: tournament organizer rating

Post by koontz1973 »

Yep, include me in this as well. Always glad to hear from players in my tournies, good points and bad. Always trying to better myself.
Image
User avatar
Sniper08
SoC Training Adviser
Posts: 1703
Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:58 pm
Gender: Male
Location: Dublin,Ireland

Re: tournament organizer rating

Post by Sniper08 »

I support this as well. good idea for tourney feedback.
Image
benga
Posts: 6925
Joined: Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:15 pm

Re: tournament organizer rating

Post by benga »

Support!

But tournament players should also do it now.
User avatar
ckyrias
Posts: 1177
Joined: Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:27 pm
Gender: Male

Re: tournament organizer rating

Post by ckyrias »

support as well! a poll on the first post would be helpful as well.
Image

Image
User avatar
trinicardinal
Chatter
Chatter
Posts: 2911
Joined: Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:59 am
Location: On a Tropical Island - Coconut anyone?

Re: tournament organizer rating

Post by trinicardinal »

Dukasaur wrote:
chapcrap wrote:As a TO of over 50 tournaments (some ongoing), I support this. Not just for the tournament participants to get information on how good the tournament will be run, but also for the TOs to get feedback on how they are doing so that they know where they can improve and what the players would like to see done better and differently.

Fuzzy316 wrote:I would support this as well. I think that there should be room for actual feedback, up to a certain number of characters, and not just a few radio buttons and star ratings alone. This allows for better feedback. Or perhaps, the option to "Send TO feedback" where they can send an email to the TO.

+2


I love the idea...however players can pm the TO's now and let them know what they think so maybe the send to feedback may not be necessary once feed back can be posted... All in all its a great idea!
10:16:35 ‹Ace Rimmer› haven't looked at work in ages
10:42:43 ‹Sackett58› fine, I'll take my panties elsewhere
User avatar
JBlombier
Posts: 1435
Joined: Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:47 am
Gender: Male
Location: Gouda

Re: tournament organizer rating

Post by JBlombier »

I fully support this suggestion.
Image
User avatar
greenoaks
Posts: 9977
Joined: Mon Nov 12, 2007 12:47 am

Re: tournament organizer rating

Post by greenoaks »

i don't support this.

the current rating system of giving a rating and having it replace the previous rating does not give a true indication of the TO.
chapcrap
Posts: 9686
Joined: Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:46 am
Gender: Male
Location: Kansas City

Re: tournament organizer rating

Post by chapcrap »

greenoaks wrote:i don't support this.

the current rating system of giving a rating and having it replace the previous rating does not give a true indication of the TO.

As far as rating goes, I don't really know if I would want a 1-5 rating like we do for games. However, the check boxes would be nice. Telling you (and others) if you are slow or fast, send PMs, don't sent PMs, provide quick responses to inquiries, etc. I think that would be more useful and helpful to me.
User avatar
WILLIAMS5232
Posts: 2232
Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2009 4:22 pm
Gender: Male
Location: Biloxi, Ms

Re: tournament organizer rating

Post by WILLIAMS5232 »

benga wrote:Support!

But tournament players should also do it now.


really all they can do is a pm or post in the thread. which that does get done. but only by the motivated. i think if there were an option that it would be more frequent.

trinicardinal wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
chapcrap wrote:As a TO of over 50 tournaments (some ongoing), I support this. Not just for the tournament participants to get information on how good the tournament will be run, but also for the TOs to get feedback on how they are doing so that they know where they can improve and what the players would like to see done better and differently.

Fuzzy316 wrote:I would support this as well. I think that there should be room for actual feedback, up to a certain number of characters, and not just a few radio buttons and star ratings alone. This allows for better feedback. Or perhaps, the option to "Send TO feedback" where they can send an email to the TO.

+2



I love the idea...however players can pm the TO's now and let them know what they think so maybe the send to feedback may not be necessary once feed back can be posted... All in all its a great idea!


this is similiar to the previous argument. another thing that just simple feed back will not solve is the TO rating. there could be 3 "5 star" categories. i've been in some pretty draggy tournaments, and wish i had some sort of indication before i got in it. this will not be foolproof, but i think it will help a good bit. i understand that people say the player rating is flawed. but even so, if someone has a 3.5 rating you can pretty much tell you're going to get problems out of him in a game. this would be the same for joining tours. plus there are not too many players that may tend to abuse the rating system that join tourns. it should stay accurate. also people that manage their tourns. well will get high ratings, and this will only motivate to do better each time. everyone wants to play in well run tourns.

greenoaks wrote:i don't support this.

the current rating system of giving a rating and having it replace the previous rating does not give a true indication of the TO.


not sure what you mean here. i'm not saying replace the player rating. i'm saying add a TO rating. so someone that has run tournaments will have two ratings. or it may just show up in join tournaments thread. i dont know how all that coding works,
Image
User avatar
Night Strike
Posts: 8512
Joined: Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:52 pm
Gender: Male

Re: tournament organizer rating

Post by Night Strike »

WILLIAMS5232 wrote:
greenoaks wrote:i don't support this.

the current rating system of giving a rating and having it replace the previous rating does not give a true indication of the TO.


not sure what you mean here. i'm not saying replace the player rating. i'm saying add a TO rating. so someone that has run tournaments will have two ratings. or it may just show up in join tournaments thread. i dont know how all that coding works,


No one knows how that coding works because it doesn't exist. Greenoaks is talking about how with player ratings, you can re-rate a player later on when you play them again and that the new rating completely replaces the old rating. So you may rate someone today as a great player, but if you rate them poorly after a game 6 months from now, only the bad rating will show up. He's assuming the same thing would happen in tournaments, where a great organizer may have all good ratings but then suddenly have an emergency and have to leave the site and abandons several tournaments which lead to bad ratings (which has happened before). The only thing one would see is the bad rating and not the experience.
Image
User avatar
Dukasaur
Community Team
Community Team
Posts: 28220
Joined: Sat Nov 20, 2010 4:49 pm
Location: Beautiful Niagara

Re: tournament organizer rating

Post by Dukasaur »

Night Strike wrote:
WILLIAMS5232 wrote:
greenoaks wrote:i don't support this.

the current rating system of giving a rating and having it replace the previous rating does not give a true indication of the TO.


not sure what you mean here. i'm not saying replace the player rating. i'm saying add a TO rating. so someone that has run tournaments will have two ratings. or it may just show up in join tournaments thread. i dont know how all that coding works,


No one knows how that coding works because it doesn't exist. Greenoaks is talking about how with player ratings, you can re-rate a player later on when you play them again and that the new rating completely replaces the old rating. So you may rate someone today as a great player, but if you rate them poorly after a game 6 months from now, only the bad rating will show up. He's assuming the same thing would happen in tournaments, where a great organizer may have all good ratings but then suddenly have an emergency and have to leave the site and abandons several tournaments which lead to bad ratings (which has happened before). The only thing one would see is the bad rating and not the experience.

Yeah, I think this system would only be meaningful if it kept track of all ratings.

Also, I think it would be a good idea to have some kind of a "timeline" function, so you can see if your ratings are going up or not and follow trends.
“‎Life is a shipwreck, but we must not forget to sing in the lifeboats.”
― Voltaire
User avatar
WILLIAMS5232
Posts: 2232
Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2009 4:22 pm
Gender: Male
Location: Biloxi, Ms

Re: tournament organizer rating

Post by WILLIAMS5232 »

Dukasaur wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
WILLIAMS5232 wrote:
greenoaks wrote:i don't support this.

the current rating system of giving a rating and having it replace the previous rating does not give a true indication of the TO.


not sure what you mean here. i'm not saying replace the player rating. i'm saying add a TO rating. so someone that has run tournaments will have two ratings. or it may just show up in join tournaments thread. i dont know how all that coding works,


No one knows how that coding works because it doesn't exist. Greenoaks is talking about how with player ratings, you can re-rate a player later on when you play them again and that the new rating completely replaces the old rating. So you may rate someone today as a great player, but if you rate them poorly after a game 6 months from now, only the bad rating will show up. He's assuming the same thing would happen in tournaments, where a great organizer may have all good ratings but then suddenly have an emergency and have to leave the site and abandons several tournaments which lead to bad ratings (which has happened before). The only thing one would see is the bad rating and not the experience.

Yeah, I think this system would only be meaningful if it kept track of all ratings.

Also, I think it would be a good idea to have some kind of a "timeline" function, so you can see if your ratings are going up or not and follow trends.


I Agree with this too. the rating for each tournament should stick. and for the next one have a whole new rating. that way it shows trends,
Image
kuma32478
Posts: 1727
Joined: Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:55 am
Gender: Male
Location: North Carolina
Contact:

Re: tournament organizer rating

Post by kuma32478 »

this has my support as well
User avatar
patrickaa317
Posts: 2269
Joined: Sat Jan 31, 2009 5:10 pm
Gender: Male

Re: tournament organizer rating

Post by patrickaa317 »

Love the idea. =D>
taking a break from cc, will be back sometime in the future.
User avatar
MrGlassB
Posts: 1498
Joined: Sat Dec 12, 2009 1:26 am
Gender: Male
Location: Chicago, IL
Contact:

Re: tournament organizer rating

Post by MrGlassB »

I somewhat support this. Imho the current player rating system is virtually useless and meaningless, unless the player has a terrible rating. Otherwise, it's just a bunch of 5-star ratings from people trying to get the medal. I think basing a TO rating on this system would be just as useless.

I would rather see a rating system for tournaments that automatically averages to a TO rating.

MGB
User avatar
ubcman64
Posts: 1410
Joined: Sat Nov 10, 2007 8:54 pm
Gender: Male
Location: Wisconsin

Re: tournament organizer rating

Post by ubcman64 »

what i'd rather see than a rating system (since the current system is of almost no value imho) is more of an informational listing of TO's. a listing that would give all their stats such as tournaments started and finished. whether the have any abandoned tournaments. types of tournaments run, size of tournament, length of time to complete, and so on.
i think seeing this type of information would help a person determine if they want to participate in a particular TO's tournament, better than any rating system would do. think of it as CC's version of the Better Business Bureau, without the grading. my 2 cents. :D
Founding Member of ++The Legion++
chapcrap
Posts: 9686
Joined: Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:46 am
Gender: Male
Location: Kansas City

Re: tournament organizer rating

Post by chapcrap »

ubcman64 wrote:what i'd rather see than a rating system (since the current system is of almost no value imho) is more of an informational listing of TO's. a listing that would give all their stats such as tournaments started and finished. whether the have any abandoned tournaments. types of tournaments run, size of tournament, length of time to complete, and so on.
i think seeing this type of information would help a person determine if they want to participate in a particular TO's tournament, better than any rating system would do. think of it as CC's version of the Better Business Bureau, without the grading. my 2 cents. :D

As far as that goes, I would like to at least see some tags be able to be used because Some TOs send PMs. Some will send you follow up PMs with additional tournaments that they run. Some start games quickly. Some leave the tournaments sit for a bit. It's good to know that information as a player.
User avatar
ubcman64
Posts: 1410
Joined: Sat Nov 10, 2007 8:54 pm
Gender: Male
Location: Wisconsin

Re: tournament organizer rating

Post by ubcman64 »

chapcrap wrote:
ubcman64 wrote:what i'd rather see than a rating system (since the current system is of almost no value imho) is more of an informational listing of TO's. a listing that would give all their stats such as tournaments started and finished. whether the have any abandoned tournaments. types of tournaments run, size of tournament, length of time to complete, and so on.
i think seeing this type of information would help a person determine if they want to participate in a particular TO's tournament, better than any rating system would do. think of it as CC's version of the Better Business Bureau, without the grading. my 2 cents. :D

As far as that goes, I would like to at least see some tags be able to be used because Some TOs send PMs. Some will send you follow up PMs with additional tournaments that they run. Some start games quickly. Some leave the tournaments sit for a bit. It's good to know that information as a player.


yes, exactly
Founding Member of ++The Legion++
Post Reply

Return to “Archived Suggestions”