Break-Up California

saxitoxin · Post by **saxitoxin** » Sun Mar 09, 2014 5:46 pm

Tim Draper this week announced he's funding an initiative to put a measure on the November ballot to dissolve California and establish six states in its place (though each of the six states would then have to be admitted back into the U.S. by Congress).

BigBallinStalin · Post by **BigBallinStalin** » Sun Mar 09, 2014 6:28 pm

Where do I sign?

mrswdk · Post by **mrswdk** » Sun Mar 09, 2014 6:51 pm

What would be the purpose of this?

nietzsche · Post by **nietzsche** » Sun Mar 09, 2014 6:54 pm

Why does everything has to have a purpose?

saxitoxin · Post by **saxitoxin** » Sun Mar 09, 2014 7:36 pm

mrswdk wrote:What would be the purpose of this?

According to the website, the purpose is coming soon and you should "stay tuned" ... http://www.sixcalifornias.info.

But, we can guess on a few things ...

Presumably "South California" and "Jefferson" would be Republican states, "Central California" would be a swing state and the other three would Democratic states so it would result in a net gain of two Democrats in the U.S. Senate. On the other hand, in presidential elections, it would also dilute California's 55 guaranteed Democratic votes in the Electoral College to 35 or so, create 15 new guaranteed Republican votes and make another 5 votes up for competition.

According to the LA Times, the new state of Silicon Valley would surpass Connecticut as the richest state in the U.S., while the new state of Central California would surpass Mississippi for the poorest. So, infrastructure in Silicon Valley would improve even more as more money stays in the region, while infrastructure in Central California would get even worse as there would be no more wealth transfers from San Francisco to Fresno.

mrswdk · Post by **mrswdk** » Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:33 pm

What an unsatisfying website.

thegreekdog · Post by **thegreekdog** » Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:34 pm

saxitoxin wrote:though each of the six states would then have to be admitted back into the U.S. by Congress).

Oh... I assumed South California would join Mexico.

TA1LGUNN3R · Post by **TA1LGUNN3R** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:46 am

DoomYoshi · Post by **DoomYoshi** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:59 am

DO IT! Don't be a Pussy!

Jmac1026 · Post by **Jmac1026** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:14 am

saxitoxin wrote:while the new state of Central California would surpass Mississippi for the poorest.

FINALLY, someone putting Mississippi in its place.

notyou2 · Post by **notyou2** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:40 am

It is the Republicans wanting their own state in the west coast sun.

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:15 am

Honestly, I think instead of breaking up California, we should welcome Crimea into the USA.

--Andy

BigBallinStalin · Post by **BigBallinStalin** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:37 am

AndyDufresne wrote:Honestly, I think instead of breaking up California, we should welcome Crimea into the USA.

--Andy

Let's import their country to somewhere in between Jackson, MS and Mobile, AL. There's nothing but trees and a few houses in between.

Or better yet, remove Mobile, AL and put Crimea, the city of traders, on the sea coast. They'd love it.

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 10:02 am

BigBallinStalin wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:Honestly, I think instead of breaking up California, we should welcome Crimea into the USA.

--Andy
Let's import their country to somewhere in between Jackson, MS and Mobile, AL. There's nothing but trees and a few houses in between.

Or better yet, remove Mobile, AL and put Crimea, the city of traders, on the sea coast. They'd love it.

Right, I added Crimea down there to be the testicles of Florida.

--Andy

Army of GOD · Post by **Army of GOD** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 10:34 am

Let's just make each county its own state in the entire US.

mrswdk · Post by **mrswdk** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:51 pm

The Man puts us all in boxes, but the boxes aren't real. Everyone bleeds red blood, people. One planet, one love.

Army of GOD · Post by **Army of GOD** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:53 pm

mrswdk wrote:The Man puts us all in boxes, but the boxes aren't real. Everyone bleeds red blood, people. One planet, one love.

Get out of my forum you fucking hippie

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:04 pm

Army of GOD wrote:
mrswdk wrote:The Man puts us all in boxes, but the boxes aren't real. Everyone bleeds red blood, people. One planet, one love.
Get out of my forum you fucking hippie

The Space Hippies welcome all:

--Andy

notyou2 · Post by **notyou2** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:08 pm

Groovy

Sackett58 · Post by **Sackett58** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:13 pm

I'm all for more beachfront property. Bring in Baja and we can transform Tijuana into our own Vegas.

DoomYoshi · Post by **DoomYoshi** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:17 pm

Army of GOD wrote:Let's just make each county its own state in the entire US.

Let's not be dramatic. Baby steps. Next year the rule is that no state can be bigger than Vermont in size or population.

EU will get the same rule, using Lichtenstein as the benchmark.

Africa's guide will be Djibouti... so just like it is now.

nietzsche · Post by **nietzsche** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:37 pm

notyou2 wrote:Groovy

that's something 2dimes would say in this situation, in fact, i read groovy and assumed right away it was 2dimes. Are 2dimes and you the same canadian person?

Phatscotty · Post by **Phatscotty** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:53 pm

I wonder what would happen to California's economy-busting debt and the wealth redistribution methods. Wouldn't they have to settle their books? Oh yeah, they will probably just dump it on the rest of us and get bailed out.

DoomYoshi · Post by **DoomYoshi** » Wed Mar 12, 2014 12:14 am

nietzsche wrote:
notyou2 wrote:Groovy
that's something 2dimes would say in this situation, in fact, i read groovy and assumed right away it was 2dimes. Are 2dimes and you the same canadian person?

No. Its the kind of thing vtmarik would say.

EDIT: After searching, Dukasaur and iamCaffeine are both fond of the phrase.

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:04 am

Phatscotty wrote:I wonder what would happen to California's economy-busting debt and the wealth redistribution methods. Wouldn't they have to settle their books? Oh yeah, they will probably just dump it on the rest of us and get bailed out.

Yeah, F*CK CALIFORNIA.

--Andy