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[CL8] 2nd Division - 1st: LoW 2nd: GoN 3rd: HH MVP:Condor

Postby Keefie on Tue Sep 27, 2016 8:35 am

Clan League VIII – 2016/17 - SECOND DIVISION
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> CL8 MAIN THREAD > RESULTS > STANDINGS

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Game Creation Labels

The 1st Clan Contacts, and some 2nd Clan Contacts, have privileges to create the home games and invite their players. When creating a game use this tournament: "2016 [CL8] Second Division". For your home games label the games with your clan abbreviation first, followed by "vs", followed by the away clan. For example, the first set of Round 1 is LOW against HH, so LOW should create their home games with the following label: R1 LOW vs HH The second set is the HH home games and the label should be: R1 HH vs LOW

Posting Games

Every clan has to post their home games in the thread dedicated for that purpose: "[CL8] Active War Game Lists for Second Division Only". Do not post them in this war thread. Furthermore, you only need to post the game numbers. No need to post the map and players. Please link the game numbers to the game. You can do this by highlighting each game number and and clicking the "Game" button above the textbox.

General CL8 Info & Rules

For all other general CL8 information and rules go to: CL8 Main Thread

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Infractions
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[CL8] Second Division [Results]

Postby Lindax on Tue Sep 27, 2016 1:54 pm

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FINAL

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Second Division
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[CL8] Second Division [Standings]

Postby Lindax on Tue Sep 27, 2016 1:54 pm

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Standings

Updated: February 3

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After Round 4:

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After Round 3:

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After Round 2:

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After Round 1:

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Re: [CL8] Second Division

Postby celliottii on Wed Oct 05, 2016 8:37 am

Can we get the Active War list for Second Division unlocked please? viewtopic.php?f=441&t=220039

I went to post our home games for Round 1 and was unable to.

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Re: [CL8] Second Division

Postby Keefie on Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:06 am

The official prediction contest for CL8 is here: viewtopic.php?f=438&t=220217
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Re: [CL8] Second Division

Postby VioIet on Tue Oct 11, 2016 11:09 pm

Good Luck to all the teams in the Second Division! May this be a smooth and fun tournament.
Bruceswar: I have big news coming out soonish
Violet: oh, what big news?
Bruceswar: I am leaving KORT to go to RA


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Re: [CL8] Second Division

Postby Lindax on Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:56 pm

Round 1 is underway. Unfortunately 1 clan did not fill all their away games in time. At the moment the game still needs one more player to join.

Infraction posted in OP:

SD R1 - PHNX vs RA: RA did not fill all away games in time. First warning issued.

[EDIT] SD R1 - PHNX vs RA: RA did not fill all away games in time of second deadline. Final Warning issued.

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Re: [CL8] Second Division

Postby celliottii on Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:21 am

celliottii wrote:Hey guys,

I'm heading on vacation tomorrow for a week, so I wanted to put this out there early.

For our upcoming match, EGAD wants to enforce the 12 hour fog rule on any map where needed. Maps which the fog rule would not apply would be something like the Feudal maps, Peloponnesian War, Clandemonium, Labyrinth, etc.

Please let us know if you agree or disagree with this proposal.

Thanks!

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ScaryTeded wrote:Agree sorry for late reply M8`s

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Posting this in the CL8 chat for documentation purposes.

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Re: [CL8] Second Division

Postby Lindax on Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:21 pm

celliottii wrote:
celliottii wrote:Hey guys,

I'm heading on vacation tomorrow for a week, so I wanted to put this out there early.

For our upcoming match, EGAD wants to enforce the 12 hour fog rule on any map where needed. Maps which the fog rule would not apply would be something like the Feudal maps, Peloponnesian War, Clandemonium, Labyrinth, etc.

Please let us know if you agree or disagree with this proposal.

Thanks!

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ScaryTeded wrote:Agree sorry for late reply M8`s

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Posting this in the CL8 chat for documentation purposes.

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You can document it here, but keep in mind that the TOs/CDs do NOT enforce any fog rules. It's all up to the clans to figure that out between themselves. BTW, you could just save the PMs. ;)

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Re: [CL8] Second Division

Postby Lindax on Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:06 am

Lindax wrote:Round 1 is underway. Unfortunately 1 clan did not fill all their away games in time. At the moment the game still needs one more player to join.

Infraction posted in OP:

SD R1 - PHNX vs RA: RA did not fill all away games in time. First warning issued.

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RA missed the second deadline. Infraction posted in OP:

SD R1 - PHNX vs RA: RA failed to fill all away games before the second deadline. Final warning issued.

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Re: [CL8] Second Division

Postby celliottii on Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:02 pm

Lindax wrote:
celliottii wrote:
celliottii wrote:Hey guys,

I'm heading on vacation tomorrow for a week, so I wanted to put this out there early.

For our upcoming match, EGAD wants to enforce the 12 hour fog rule on any map where needed. Maps which the fog rule would not apply would be something like the Feudal maps, Peloponnesian War, Clandemonium, Labyrinth, etc.

Please let us know if you agree or disagree with this proposal.

Thanks!

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ScaryTeded wrote:Agree sorry for late reply M8`s

Teddy


Posting this in the CL8 chat for documentation purposes.

celliottii


You can document it here, but keep in mind that the TOs/CDs do NOT enforce any fog rules. It's all up to the clans to figure that out between themselves. BTW, you could just save the PMs. ;)

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Thanks, Lx...

I knew the fog rule wasn't going to be enforced, but I wasn't sure if I should document it as well...

No worries...

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Re: [CL8] Second Division

Postby gigi_b on Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:10 pm

Hey, this is actually a good place to document it...it's not like we'll be exchanging a lot of info on this thread. The infractions are not a particularly catchy subject for me..:)
And regarding the fog rule, even though not enforced, it's a good thing to see which teams go with it and which don't.

I for one am a supporter of the idea as I think it's a good common fair-play practice. And even though I can't vouch for the entire FAD team, I would say that the majority of the guys from the clan would have no objections playing with the "fog rule" (even though sometimes it's forgotten about..:) )
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Re: [CL8] Second Division

Postby Lindax on Fri Nov 11, 2016 10:18 am

All home games were filled in time.

Thanks,

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Re: [CL8] Second Division

Postby Lindax on Wed Nov 16, 2016 8:31 am

Round 3 is underway. Unfortunately 1 clan did not fill all their away games in time.

Infraction posted in OP:

R3 - SOH vs RA: RA did not fill all away games in time. Games forfeited.

See also SD Active War Games thread.

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Re: [CL8] Second Division

Postby Lindax on Wed Nov 23, 2016 9:41 am

Results so far, for rounds 1 and 2 are posted on the first page. Standings after round 1 are also posted.

See: Results and Standings

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Re: [CL8] Second Division

Postby Lindax on Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:33 am

Round 5 is underway.

Unfortunately one clan once again failed to fill their away games. Posted in the OP:

TS vs RA: RA did not fill all away games in time. Games forfeited and 1pt deduction from their overall points total will be applied.


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Re: [CL8] Second Division

Postby Keefie on Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:35 pm

Firstly, I'd like to make this very clear that I'm posting this as CL of HH and not as a CD.

Sadly, I'm of the opinion that the inability of one clan to meet deadlines - Risk Attackers - is seriously undermining this competition.

They are now on 4 infractions, two of which have resulted in clans receiving free wins. 5 games were voided against SoH and now 7 against TS. This will certainly have an affect on the final places and quite possibly will affect the top 3 promotion slots.

Unfortunately, the rules, that we all agreed on, state that expulsion will not be considered until the 6th infraction. Therefore I'm calling on RA to do the decent thing and withdraw from this competition before they do anymore damage. Then all of their results can be annulled and everyone is back on a level playing field.

I'd like to hear from other clans on this one.
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Re: [CL8] Second Division

Postby bergy1 on Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:49 pm

Think we should just let it play out and apply the rules already in place
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Re: [CL8] Second Division

Postby celliottii on Wed Dec 14, 2016 1:30 pm

I have to agree with Keefie. We do not play RA until Round 8 and, if RA maintains its current MO, they will be expelled from CL8...which would give us another bye week and the loss at potentially moving up in standings.

I am in favor of them either withdrawing and being expelled and all games against RA be annulled.
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Re: [CL8] Second Division

Postby Vid_FISO on Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:57 pm

It may or may not be pertinent but the contact link for RA's rep. above is wrong, CDs could well be sending reminders and complaints to the wrong user?
If nothing else works, a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through
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Re: [CL8] Second Division

Postby Keefie on Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:58 pm

Vid_FISO wrote:It may or may not be pertinent but the contact link for RA's rep. above is wrong, CDs could well be sending reminders and complaints to the wrong user?


No that is not happening.
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Re: [CL8] Second Division

Postby Lindax on Wed Dec 14, 2016 6:23 pm

Keefie wrote:
Vid_FISO wrote:It may or may not be pertinent but the contact link for RA's rep. above is wrong, CDs could well be sending reminders and complaints to the wrong user?


No that is not happening.


Correct. Edited the info in the OP nevertheless.

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Re: [CL8] Second Division

Postby Bantam on Thu Dec 15, 2016 5:01 am

Unfortunately I can only see the eventual outcome that eventually RA suffer a 5th and 6th infraction.
Having a clan disqualified and/or kicked out doesn't in the long term help anyone.
There will be players in RA who enjoy being part of a clan and may be unaware of the current status.

If there was anything I could do to help RA - then I make that offer.

I grasp the point Keefie is making - that assuming RA commit no further infractions - those early infractions could have an impact on the final table.
We won't really know until much later on - when its also harder to find an equitable solution - if there are no penalties then you could be waiting forever for games to be filled/start - but also you don't want clans being booted after 3 or 4 infractions - after all its a friendly competition - not a matter of life and death - (there are those who see it as such mind you.... :D :D )

All in all there aren't any winners out of this and its a shame its come to this.
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Re: [CL8] Second Division

Postby dt03457 on Thu Dec 15, 2016 9:10 am

It pains me to say this as we won both matches with RA (albeit, 1 match by forfeits), but I would like to see RA bow out and then scratch the results of all the RA matches if they can't fill their games. Even if RA doesn't bow out and ends up getting kicked out, all of their match results should be scrubbed from the standings.

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Re: [CL8] Second Division

Postby Lindax on Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:54 am

For the record: If any clan leaves this tournament (or gets disqualified) for any reason, their results will be annulled.

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