Warsteiner and strakkebillen [blocked]

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These are suspected Secret Alliance

Suspect users: Warsteiner and strakkebillen

Game number: http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1061720

Comments: both from the same county, never attacked eachother, seems they made a pact to wipe blue and I (green) out first. when asked then denied having a pact but the moves they both played clearly indicated they were working together.


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[soundout9]

they didnt attack each other much but they did attack each other so idk but by the way i love your screen name †™ thats tight

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i would quite like to know what the dutch was at the start of the game

[Wisse]

i can explain it:
i will use other words than they did but the meaning is the same (just because they are talking degousting) (so the first 4 lines are half edited)


2007-10-21 13:16:25 - Warsteiner: this will become a bad game
2007-10-21 13:16:52 - strakkebillen: don't deploy on brazil
2007-10-21 13:17:03 - strakkebillen: take europe then
2007-10-21 13:17:33 - Warsteiner: as if you could take south america
2007-10-21 13:17:46 - strakkebillen: maybe at last
2007-10-21 13:17:55 - strakkebillen: you can't move in brazil because of me
2007-10-21 13:18:10 - strakkebillen: bleu gets australia
2007-10-21 13:18:43 - strakkebillen: if he would fort

[sully800]

Warning sent.

If if happens again, report it here and they will be blocked from playing together.

[Thai Robert]

Warsteiner and Strakkebillen still can't stop helping eachother.
Here are 4 games, played in the past 3 days. In these games they both joined at the same time. And Warsteiner won all of them. Standard games, and one Assassin. Could it be more easy to cheat if you knew eachother's target?
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1323479
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1320600
In this game ^ they mention having a truce after a while. But it was there since the start.
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1319686
Another truce in this one ^
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1309927
And there are plenty more games, they recently played together.
Definitely a secret alliance. Or is it OK to work together in every single game, as long as you mention it? Come on guys, they were warned for a reason last month...

[Thai Robert]

Hi Sully, would you mind looking into this case and closing it?
It's not a question whether Warsteiner and Strakkebillen do have an alliance, but whether it is legal. In my opinion it could really only be legal if they had systematically announced it from round 1 in every single game they played together. And that's tens of them recently. But they were not always that clear about their intentions.
Thanks

[Bartoli]

Hi Sully, would you mind looking into this case and closing it?
It's not a question whether Warsteiner and Strakkebillen do have an alliance, but whether it is legal. In my opinion it could really only be legal if they had systematically announced it from round 1 in every single game they played together. And that's tens of them recently. But they were not always that clear about their intentions.
Thanks

but if people who are friends have an alliance before the game even starts, isn't that a Pre-game alliance? i guess that is as bad as a secret one, anounced or not ...

[Thai Robert]

I fully agree with you Bartoli, but the rules and the mods seem to permit it.

[lord voldemort]

if announced in game chat then legal

[Nephilim]

i smell another huge rat a la krusher.....warsteiner got a friend to throw him some games to get over the 3K hump? pretty much speculative here but i think these boys are onto something......

btw notice the number of games shared by warsteiner and krusher.....

[krusher]

this is bow crap warsteiner get s awarning even though the evidence is righ there and I get all 3 of the harshest punishments at once? looks like cheating does pay out, atleast for some people...

[RiskTycoon]

but i thought you liked being a cheater???? why the change of heart?

[firth4eva]

He just doesn't like that he got busted and these guys didn't

[Wisse]

i think a score reset and blokcing from playing together would help here

[Frop]

but i thought you liked being a cheater???? why the change of heart?

Guess he's afraid someone's going to topple his banner.

[Warsteiner]

I'm a cheater ROFL?? the first accusation was complete bullshit anyway as we simply spoke in dutch as that's our native language..

Now you're comming up with this bullshit? I recently lost a shitload of points to Strakkebillen. You think I'd want that? rofl...

[Warsteiner]

Warsteiner and Strakkebillen still can't stop helping eachother.
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1323479
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1320600
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1319686
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1309927

I don't see a secret alliance or any cheating in any of these games.. I make truces with EVERYONE in my games to not waste useless armies. You can ask players I play with: Prankcall, Poo Maker, Risktaker, Scott Land, Herminator all these players know I play fair.. So STFU please and get a life.

Of course it's true that I know this person in real life, I won't deny that. but ANY truce we would make in a game we ANNOUNCE IN GAMECHAT. Plus he tries his very best every game to beat me. If you look at the history I think he's beaten me 5-6 times and I've beaten him mayb 20 times. That's what makes me a colonel and him a corporal eh . Not to be disrespectful or anything, but he just sucks in freestyle ^^

[Risktaker17]

Warsteiner and Strakkebillen still can't stop helping eachother.
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1323479
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1320600
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1319686
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1309927

I don't see a secret alliance or any cheating in any of these games.. I make truces with EVERYONE in my games to not waste useless armies. You can ask players I play with: Prankcall, Poo Maker, Risktaker, Scott Land, Herminator all these players know I play fair.. So STFU please and get a life.

Of course it's true that I know this person in real life, I won't deny that. but ANY truce we would make in a game we ANNOUNCE IN GAMECHAT. Plus he tries his very best every game to beat me. If you look at the history I think he's beaten me 5-6 times and I've beaten him mayb 20 times. That's what makes me a colonel and him a corporal eh

He does make tons of alliances its true, but that is the nature of the type of game he plays.

[Warsteiner]

thanks risk, have you ever seen me cheat?

Guess not.. Wild accusations in this topic which I don't like.

[Warsteiner]

Warning sent.

If if happens again, report it here and they will be blocked from playing together.

I didnt see the topic up to now, but time for me to respond on this too as I think it's complete bullshit. I translated all the sentences in game chat to the other players as they got suspicious. I merely did my honest duty to tell them what it was about and realised i shouldnt have spoken dutch.

[Thai Robert]

Once again it's not whether he is in an alliance, but whether it's a legal one. If you're allied with someone from the start. As is the case with each game Warsteiner plays with Strakkebillen. And I'm not referring to any other people they played with. Then you should announce it from round 1. And that hasn't always happened.
Just curious what the mods think of that...

[Warsteiner]

Once again it's not whether he is in an alliance, but whether it's a legal one. If you're allied with someone from the start. As is the case with each game Warsteiner plays with Strakkebillen. And I'm not referring to any other people they played with. Then you should announce it from round 1. And that hasn't always happened.
Just curious what the mods think of that...

You didnt read what I said? please do before going back to the same arguments i just falsified.

You're saying I'm not allowed to play with friends?? They want to beat me as much as I want to beat them. I play this game with tonns of friends, we do doubs sometimes but frequently oppose eachother and beat eachother. Strakkebillen is one, i can name 3-4 more I knew before playing conquer club.. Does that make it cheating? of course not. All possible truces we announce in Game Chat.

If it's not allowed to play with friends; make it a rule instead of accusing me here.

I also made a few friends here, on Conquer Club. Quite a few high ranked players.. I'm not allowed to play them either?

[Thai Robert]

Ha ha, in the past 3 weeks, BEFORE I wrote this message, you played Strakkebillen 15 times, You lost a shitload of umm 0 games, Yes that's right 0 games! Whose words should be taken seriously here? The point is you're a liar as well as a cheater.

[Warsteiner]

Ha ha, in the past 3 weeks, BEFORE I wrote this message, you played Strakkebillen 15 times, You lost a shitload of umm 0 games, Yes that's right 0 games! Whose words should be taken seriously here? The point is you're a liar as well as a cheater.

To start off with; I said shitload of points not games you fool.
Get your facts straight btw.. I've almost never lost Age of Might with or without playing against him, plus I win 80% of my games lately.. no wonder you have such great 'arguments'

Now for the rest:

I didnt read this topic on to the first time I posted here. If you don't believe me you're just a sad excuse for a person. I don't lie. I've been completely honest in this topic about all I said. Moreover I wouldn't even go thru the effort of deliberatly losing to someone just for this louzy topic if that's what you're thinking. I'm 100% sure I'll be cleared.
Lately we could indeed be on a 15 : 1 score then and a doubs win together. In the past we're more like on a 5:3 score? I don't know, you're the one doing research go look up . Sander used to pwn me in sequentials. I'm way better in freestyles. There are more players which almost never win from me and which I win all the time.. Go look at cairns coral coast. I won 90% of those games.. all my allies? rofl!

In the past I did ask him: hey lets play the same game and such.. nowadays we more coinsedently join up on the same game.. we both play a shitload of speed games.