Where did all the n00bs go?

soundout9 · Post by **soundout9** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:23 pm

I don't know about all of you....but i just relized that all my ongoing games have NO new recruits in them! I think it is amazing......absolutly no n00bs.

Gilligan · Post by **Gilligan** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:35 pm

I see one ^^

rebelman · Post by **rebelman** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 7:29 pm

Gilligan wrote:I see one ^^

Skittles! · Post by **Skittles!** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 7:40 pm

Gilligan wrote:I see one ^^

Damn, you beat me to it.

TheTeacher · Post by **TheTeacher** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:02 pm

u kno... actually i just noticed... in all the games i've been playing... no new recruits... WHATS GOING ON???

this guy has a point.

my theory:

there r so many players now, that since it only takes five games to not be a noob any more, the stream of noobs, devided evenly among all us players, means that, individually, we don't see new recruits as often.

Did that make any sence?

soundout9 · Post by **soundout9** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:15 pm

TheTeacher wrote:u kno... actually i just noticed... in all the games i've been playing... no new recruits... WHATS GOING ON???

this guy has a point.

my theory:

there r so many players now, that since it only takes five games to not be a noob any more, the stream of noobs, devided evenly among all us players, means that, individually, we don't see new recruits as often.

Did that make any sence?

Thank you for getting my point...

Herakilla · Post by **Herakilla** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:32 pm

that could be but the steady stream of new members would off set that

graeme89 · Post by **graeme89** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:47 pm

Usually when I game search I never see any captains or above, but at the moment there are a few about in public, and yes there are fewer ? marks aswell. I'm looking forward to taking on Thai Robert.

TheTeacher · Post by **TheTeacher** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:48 pm

ok... here's a better explaination of my theory. It's extremely simplified, the real dynamics of this would obviously be much more complicated than this, but i'll give it a try and see if it makes sence.

Say we get 2 new members per day, and everybody is only alowed to have ONE game running at a time, and there are only 1 on 1 games, but say every game lasts one day, and you are graduated from being a new recruit at the end of thie first game. (i told u this is a simplified version)

On the second day, there are two folks who have a rank (from the previous day) and two more new recruits.

On the third day, there are four folks that have a rank and two more new recruits... and so on...

...to say, the Xth day, there will be 2(X-1) ranked members and 2 new members. Obviously, as time goes on, the ranked members continue to acumulate, and the number of new recruits will stay more or less constant. Thus, the ratio of new recruits to ranked members (which equals 1/(X-1)) will continue to shrink... and shrink... and shrink.

Now, if u take into acount that the rate of new recruits keeps increasing, the rate of new recruits can still never catch up with the increase in # of players, because, if one day we recieve X more new recruits than we did the day before, the number of total players goes up by X + the previous rate.

So, logically, if there aren't huge numbers of players quiting and huge increases in joining, the ratio of new recruits will continue to shrink... and shrink... and shrink... as the numbers of members builds up...

does it make more sence now?

or do i sound crazy?

Kaplowitz · Post by **Kaplowitz** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:51 pm

Im right here...

but actually i have a game with ALL new recruits

Aesop Jones · Post by **Aesop Jones** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:53 am

Kaplowitz wrote:Im right here...

but actually i have a game with ALL new recruits

I have a couple like those, but a few with like-ranked players as well.

I find if you get two or more mid / high-ranked folks together in a public game, other similarly ranked players join quickly. If it's just a lonely Sergeant or lower sitting in a game he started by himself, you'll see one random Private join, and then suddenly WHAM! Four Chefs.

Dr_Demento · Post by **Dr_Demento** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:27 pm

TheTeacher wrote:ok... here's a better explaination of my theory. It's extremely simplified, the real dynamics of this would obviously be much more complicated than this, but i'll give it a try and see if it makes sence.

Say we get 2 new members per day, and everybody is only alowed to have ONE game running at a time, and there are only 1 on 1 games, but say every game lasts one day, and you are graduated from being a new recruit at the end of thie first game. (i told u this is a simplified version)

On the second day, there are two folks who have a rank (from the previous day) and two more new recruits.

On the third day, there are four folks that have a rank and two more new recruits... and so on...

...to say, the Xth day, there will be 2(X-1) ranked members and 2 new members. Obviously, as time goes on, the ranked members continue to acumulate, and the number of new recruits will stay more or less constant. Thus, the ratio of new recruits to ranked members (which equals 1/(X-1)) will continue to shrink... and shrink... and shrink.

Now, if u take into acount that the rate of new recruits keeps increasing, the rate of new recruits can still never catch up with the increase in # of players, because, if one day we recieve X more new recruits than we did the day before, the number of total players goes up by X + the previous rate.

So, logically, if there aren't huge numbers of players quiting and huge increases in joining, the ratio of new recruits will continue to shrink... and shrink... and shrink... as the numbers of members builds up...

does it make more sence now?

or do i sound crazy?

makes sense except that there are HUGE numbers joining daily. and from what I can tell, a few more every day. There are over 150 new sign ups for today (already!). Over 300 for yesterday. So the rate of noobs should remain the same. Maybe it has more to do with the many maps choices.

yeti_c · Post by **yeti_c** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 5:38 pm

You also forget to mention the people leaving...

C.

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 5:39 pm

I got several 6/ 5 player all noobs (and me) games

TheTeacher · Post by **TheTeacher** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 7:22 pm

kk... scratch that then, new theory: us players who stick to World 2.1 all the time don't see as many noobs 'cause the noobs are all playing classic first.

This make sence? what map do u play on, spinwizard?

The Weird One · Post by **The Weird One** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 7:38 pm

Skittles! wrote:
Gilligan wrote:I see one ^^

Damn, you beat me to it.

Heimdall · Post by **Heimdall** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:19 pm

I'm still around, just don't have as much time as b4

friendjonny · Post by **friendjonny** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:44 pm

I must admit, there are no new players in any of my games at the moment... but I just attributed that to coincidence.

I also have noticed the thing about two higher ranked players and then similar players join. Now, after I finish a game, I don't just immediately join a new game, but instead I wait for one that looks like it will have high enough ranked players. (although at this point, I have to consider corporal first class and above high enough because I'm only a sergent first class... sigh...)

Iliad · Post by **Iliad** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:51 pm

I think noobs are sticking to playing other new recruits and taht's why we don't see them as much

Scott-Land · Post by **Scott-Land** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:55 pm

Perhaps the multi hunters are doing their jobs and the previous flood of new recruits were actually multis......in turn the new recruits were not really new.