Scotland

[Aidan Kerr]

is anyone on CC from Scotland, i am anyway.

UK will do fine to because i want to Discuss Scottish Independence.

i am a fan of The SNP

if you dont know what there about heres a little from our friend Wikipedia


The SNP was formed in 1934 from the merger of the National Party of Scotland and the Scottish Party. The SNP first won a parliamentary seat at the Motherwell by-election in 1945

Alexander Elliot Anderson Salmond, known as Alex Salmond (born December 31, 1954, Linlithgow), is the First Minister of Scotland, heading a minority government.

He is leader of the Scottish National Party (SNP), Member of Parliament for the constituency of Banff and Buchan, and the Member of the Scottish Parliament for Gordon. He is currently serving his second term as leader of the SNP, taking over from John Swinney. He had previously been leader between 1990 and 2000.

The SNP won the 2007 Scottish Parliament election, with 47 seats - one seat ahead of their nearest rivals, the Scottish Labour Party. On 16 May 2007, Alex Salmond was nominated successfully to become First Minister, heading a minority SNP administration


http://www.snp.org/

[pmchugh]

Yeah im scottish but i wouldnt mind independence i dont think it makes much difference to our economy or much else tbh, im only 17 so ive never voted i know i will win i get the chance but just dont know who for. (either SNP or labour)

[Jenos Ridan]

I know that Scotsmen do not like being called anything other than Scots, Just like the Irish don't like being called British, even by mistake. But, Scotland is as much a part of the UK as Texas is a part of the US and it has been that way for a lot longer than the US has been a country.

Sorry if that upsets you, but the reallity is what it is.

[Aidan Kerr]

no you are true am officially brittish but i woul rather call myself european of citzen of earth.

i hate being british look i even spelt british wrong on the line above that says it all

[gordon1975]

i voted S,N,P and think salmonds doing a pretty good job so far,i like the idea of being independent ,but if he stepped down and Nicola Sturgeon took over i think things would be very bad,she really gives me the creeps,theres somthing evil about her

[Aidan Kerr]

her policies are great but they eyebrows are freaky. she stays next door to my friend at school.


Alex is doing good. is it just me or is there been a hell of a lot mor police on the streets maybe its just my area but god its so good all the N.E.D gangs have stopped hanging around.

[gordon1975]

think she scared them away

[Aidan Kerr]

if you want independence why not sign the referendum petition on the snp's website
http://www.snp.org/

i dont like the labour women wendy alexandra she scares me. so does the Tory one wendys lies about her money was funny

[gordon1975]

made a private game 2120962(scotland map ,8 players standard seq flate rate forts unlimited,this should be in callouts but goes well with the thread,will be an interesting game if we could get a mix of (independent supporters) (scots that want to keep the union intact)throw in some Engish, welsh or irish,and have play with alliances that go with your political stance ,post if anyone is game. i think it could be interesting,if we can get a good mix and i will pm password

[Iz Man]

one of my favorites:

[pmchugh]

her policies are great but they eyebrows are freaky. she stays next door to my friend at school.


Alex is doing good. is it just me or is there been a hell of a lot mor police on the streets maybe its just my area but god its so good all the N.E.D gangs have stopped hanging around.

yeah all police(nearly) now have to go out on the streets, my freinds dad hasnt been out in the streets in nearly 10 years as he is chief inspector, but now he has to go out because of the recent changes.

[brooksieb]

Independence for scotland AND england, i know i don't like being called british, there's nothing so good about being british if you guys wanna' get independence well f*ck it why shouldn't we get independence too?

However we should still have our borders open for eachother.

[brooksieb]

I know that Scotsmen do not like being called anything other than Scots, Just like the Irish don't like being called British, even by mistake. But, Scotland is as much a part of the UK as Texas is a part of the US and it has been that way for a lot longer than the US has been a country.

Sorry if that upsets you, but the reallity is what it is.

well i'm english and i don't like being called british, same with the scots up north and the sheepshaggers to the west of us.

[brooksieb]

and i hope you will have enough money to get scotland up and running....keeping with a old saying.

[muy_thaiguy]

Independence for scotland AND england, i know i don't like being called british, there's nothing so good about being british if you guys wanna' get independence well f*ck it why shouldn't we get independence too?

However we should still have our borders open for eachother.

Wasn't England the one who started it in the first place?

[brooksieb]

Independence for scotland AND england, i know i don't like being called british, there's nothing so good about being british if you guys wanna' get independence well f*ck it why shouldn't we get independence too?

However we should still have our borders open for eachother.

Wasn't England the one who started it in the first place?

Joint alliance...

[muy_thaiguy]

Independence for scotland AND england, i know i don't like being called british, there's nothing so good about being british if you guys wanna' get independence well f*ck it why shouldn't we get independence too?

However we should still have our borders open for eachother.

Wasn't England the one who started it in the first place?

Joint alliance...

Close enough.

[gordon1975]

dont see why wee cant all be independent and just have the united kingdoms,im sure we would all still get along fine,and with the extra the english have to pay in tax to keep there northern brothers happy,they would probably be a lot better off as well,dont get me wrong i love the english ,i couldnt ask for better neigbours.

[Balsiefen]

Being half english, half scottish, I dont really support independance of any of the united kingdom, I think any without the rest would have a struggle economicly, and think of the tension it would create between the peoples.

Ah well, i dont see it happening in the near future though, too much controversy and too much red tape.

[Gypsys Kiss]

The treaty that joined the two kingdoms in 1707 was a joint treaty signed by both parliaments. England and Scotland had shared a monarch ( a Scottish monarch) for 100 hundred years. So the Scots can blame the English all they like but the fact remains that the Scottish signed the treaty voluntarily.

If Scotland really thinks it will better off on its own, why do numerous Scots keep coming south of the border looking for work?

United we stand, divided we fall.

[Aidan Kerr]

NUMBER ONE

no one said Scotland didn't sign the treaty(The Act Of The Union) voluntary.
the scottish people didnt decide it was the Nobles.
and if we didn't scotland would have been destroyed with at the time the worlds greatest army
and a few bribes between the Nobles didn't do the no bvoters much good

NUMBER TWO
you talk about Scots looking for work in england.
maybe if a westminister government never closed the pits and iron works they would of still been trades to work in.
2005 45000 english moved to Scotland
1945 the level of english migration to Scotland rose by 84%

[brooksieb]

Yeah and if we all become independent we'll be the legitimate succesors to the UK so we'll still have a few bases over in scotland, I would love England and Scotland to be independent but i can't see that happening.

[brooksieb]

Yeah and if we all become independent we'll be the legitimate succesors to the UK so we'll still have a few bases over in scotland, I would love England and Scotland to be independent but i can't see that happening.

*we as in england*

[DAZMCFC]

we have a British Army and i have a British passport. i was born in England, my family were all born in Glasgow. i support Scotland and still sing "God save the Queen". if there was independence, England ,Scotland,Wales and Northern Ireland would have less muscle in Brussells. England could probably stand politically but the rest i would fear for. Scotland a country of only about 5 million people would be a very small country in the European community with all the Eastern block countries entering the EC.


if there was a break up maybe Scotland could win the Eurovision song contest. they would get more votes than the UK entry.

[cpurcell]

I agree that Scotland should be independant, but what about Ireland here people?!?!?! Being mostly Irish, of course I would be more in favor of Ireland than Scotland, but I think that the issue in Ireland is much more pressing than anything going on in Scotland...maybe that's just me. Why shouldn't everyone get to be independant?