There are no terrorists.

[Juan_Bottom]

They don't exist, you are gullible if you believe in them today. They are the new "red scare."

[heavycola]

I believe in alex jones.

[Dancing Mustard]

I would like links to bona fide pictures of terrorists not existing.

pl0x.

[Juan_Bottom]

I believe in alex jones.

You should, he's smarter than you.


I'm quite serious though that terrorism is fake, it's a catchy word to make people afraid. Prior to 2001 no one worried. Now we have a depertment of Homeland Security... Now everything is about terrorism. To protect my neighbor, the feds can look at my bank accounts without warrant. No bid contracts are given out to private contractors who can protect us. People need to wake up and stop being stupid. This isn't normal stuff.

[jay_a2j]

They don't exist, you are gullible if you believe in them today. They are the new "red scare."

I wouldn't go so far as to say they don't exist. The terrorist threat has been highly exaggerated to instill fear into the people. Since 911 people think the big bad terrorists are out to kill us, when in fact, it is the shadow government we should be fearing. This is similar, but on a much larger scale, to what Hitler did to seize power.

[Dancing Mustard]

it is the shadow government we should be fearing.

Hee hee!

He actually said it... come on Jay, now say 'Lizard Men'.

This is similar, but on a much larger scale, to what Hitler did to seize power.

Godwin's Law. You auto-lose.

[b.k. barunt]

One question i do have. The "terrorists" went to all that trouble for 9/11 - basically declaring war on The Great Satan - and then stopped. We never heard from them again in any significant way. Did i miss something? I mean, if i wanted to disrupt things here, i, by myself, on my limited funds, could wreak havoc in the supermarkets, in the water supplies, on the highways, etc. Where are any significant acts of terrorism since 9/11? I'm bored.


Honibaz

[Frigidus]

One question i do have. The "terrorists" went to all that trouble for 9/11 - basically declaring war on The Great Satan - and then stopped. We never heard from them again in any significant way. Did i miss something? I mean, if i wanted to disrupt things here, i, by myself, on my limited funds, could wreak havoc in the supermarkets, in the water supplies, on the highways, etc. Where are any significant acts of terrorism since 9/11? I'm bored.


Honibaz

My guess is that they didn't get the response they were hoping for. Much like the rest of the world, I imagine the terrorists were picturing us as stupid, self serving, arrogant, lazy, and (I'm sure, to them) cowardly. The occupation of two countries was what they got after the first one, if they tried to pull that shit again people might actually start supporting the war, and then they'd be really fucked. Besides, they've got plenty of Americans to kill on their home turf.

Here's a few undisputed (by the sane) facts:
A) People do exist who would gladly kill themselves to shed American/European/Israeli blood. Even if you think that 9/11 was A CONSPEERACEY you only have to look at the people blowing themselves up in crowded markets throughout the Middle East.
B) It isn't all that hard to sneak into the country. Mexico isn't like an open back door. It's like a missing back door. Sneaking in is easy if you have a little money.
C) It takes one guy to carry a bomb over the border, strap it to his chest, walk into Best Buy, yell "Burka durka Allah" or something, and kill a few people.

It's easy to do. We can't stop them from doing that. The only reason they wouldn't do it is that they no longer want to. The one good thing that came out of the Iraq war was that it convinced the terrorists that hitting America is a bad call.

[Frop]

The one good thing that came out of the Iraq war was that it convinced the terrorists that hitting America is a bad call.

Wow, just wow. One could call your particular condition 'politically challenged'.

[luns101]

I believe in alex jones.

Link please!...not just outlandish claims

[Juan_Bottom]

A) People do exist who would gladly kill themselves to shed American/European/Israeli blood. Even if you think that 9/11 was A CONSPEERACEY you only have to look at the people blowing themselves up in crowded markets throughout the Middle East.

Yes!!! But! These people aren't interested in us. They just want their countries back. The Afghani rebels never blew up a building in Red Moscow.... they just wanted the Russians out. When Americans fought for independance we didn't go over to England and dump tea out of ships in their port. It's the same thing now.

B) It isn't all that hard to sneak into the country. Mexico isn't like an open back door. It's like a missing back door. Sneaking in is easy if you have a little money.
C) It takes one guy to carry a bomb over the border, strap it to his chest, walk into Best Buy, yell "Burka durka Allah" or something, and kill a few people.

Again, precisly the point! You're on it today Frigidus. If they really wanted to hurt us they could. So far it seems that we are only hurting ourselves.

It's easy to do. We can't stop them from doing that. The only reason they wouldn't do it is that they no longer want to. The one good thing that came out of the Iraq war was that it convinced the terrorists that hitting America is a bad call.

I personally don't think that America was ever a big target. They can't get anything out of our country because we do not negotiate with terrorists. Maybe a small group of terrorists really though 9-11 was a brilliant plan (Osama released a statement like 2 days after saying that it wasn't him actually in charge) But that group is all defeated now.

One question i do have. The "terrorists" went to all that trouble for 9/11 - basically declaring war on The Great Satan - and then stopped. We never heard from them again in any significant way. Did i miss something? I mean, if i wanted to disrupt things here, i, by myself, on my limited funds, could wreak havoc in the supermarkets, in the water supplies, on the highways, etc. Where are any significant acts of terrorism since 9/11? I'm bored.

Again exactly my point. We have a Department of Homeland Security that thinks this kind of stuff up all the time. But they have NEVER caught a single terrorist. On a billion dollar budget.
But they haven't caught any because they aren't real.

[mpjh]

Terrorists are real. They bomb civilians every day. They use asymmetrical warfare, which means that they respond with 100 times more force than necessary and cause as much collateral damage as possible. They do not respect the territorial integrity of other countries and murder with impunity (calling it assassination). They consume 0ver 60% of the world's resources with only 25% of its population, and subvert any other government that attempts to change that situation.

Can you guess who they are?

[Nickbaldwin]

hehe

[TheProwler]

Terrorists are real. They bomb civilians every day. They use asymmetrical warfare, which means that they respond with 100 times more force than necessary and cause as much collateral damage as possible. They do not respect the territorial integrity of other countries and murder with impunity (calling it assassination). They consume 0ver 60% of the world's resources with only 25% of its population, and subvert any other government that attempts to change that situation.

Can you guess who they are?

I'm dying to hear.

I think your numbers are a tad off.

Along with your facts.

[Frigidus]

The one good thing that came out of the Iraq war was that it convinced the terrorists that hitting America is a bad call.

Wow, just wow. One could call your particular condition 'politically challenged'.

And one could call you intelligent, they'd still be wrong.

[pimpdave]

Neo, there is no spoon!


(Do you think that's air you're breathing now?)


(Hmph)

[The1exile]

See the spoon, see the spoon, he said. But all I saw was fish.

[Snorri1234]

The one good thing that came out of the Iraq war was that it convinced the terrorists that hitting America is a bad call.

Wow, just wow. One could call your particular condition 'politically challenged'.

And one could call you intelligent, they'd still be wrong.

He's right though, Frigi. The war didn't for a second convince any terrorist to stop attacking america. If anything, it made them more likely to attack. After all, America just proved that they are the evil oppressor.

[PLAYER57832]

They don't exist, you are gullible if you believe in them today. They are the new "red scare."

They are plain and simple criminals who want to use politics or religion as their justification.

But they do exist.

The one good thing that came out of the Iraq war was that it convinced the terrorists that hitting America is a bad call.

I wish!

What it really proved was just the opposite -- attack the US and you will gain lots of political notoriety, plus make them attack all kinds of innocent people.

Al-Queada was not in Iraq until we came.

The Taliban is resurging in Afghanistan.

Pakistan is more firmly anti-American than ever.



Sucide bombers are now women, not just men.

Those who helped the US .. translators, etc. and risk their lives as a result, cannot even get visas for themselves, never mind their families, because they "might be terrorists" and US just cannot vet them out well enough.

Most of the Moslem world is now firmly convinced the US, and to a lesser extent the rest of the "west", are against them.

Yep... we proved a lot!

[dcowboys055]

This thread is perfect proof for why we need a conspiracy subforum to stick all this shit in and make the off topics forum fun like it used to be.

[Juan_Bottom]

This thread is perfect proof for why we need a conspiracy subforum to stick all this shit in and make the off topics forum fun like it used to be.

Why don't you get on that Mr. Constructive?

It's only a conspiracy if it's something hidden. No one is pretending that they are finding terrorists anywhere. Those locked up in Guantanimo are low level nobody's and kids. There has not been a single foriegn terrorist caught in the US since 9-11. And it easier to get into the country than ever!
There are no terrorists.

They are plain and simple criminals who want to use politics or religion as their justification.

But they do exist.

So American Politicians and the elite rich are the real terrorists?
If I asked a member of the Taliban if he is a terrorist he would say no. And that's what the North Vietnamese would have said too.
These people are killing, certainly... but they aren't bombing America and realeasing poison gas.

[Iliad]

it is the shadow government we should be fearing.

Hee hee!

He actually said it... come on Jay, now say 'Lizard Men'.

This is similar, but on a much larger scale, to what Hitler did to seize power.

Godwin's Law. You auto-lose.

It's not like he had a chance of winning. It was his best shot really. Hope that no-one called it.

[Anarkistsdream]

TERRORISTS DON'T FUCKING EXIST???

[Juan_Bottom]

I could show these same pictures from Serbia or Serria Leone if you like. Skin color doesn't make them a serious threat to me that warrents spending trillions of dollars on. Not to mention giving up civil liberties and being treated like a terrorist myself everytime I travel.

[Anarkistsdream]

but they aren't bombing America and realeasing poison gas.

So we don't care about Madrid?


Good thing we never do anything like this...


We can't even trust our own people:

The Centennial Olympic Park bombing was a terrorist bombing on July 27, 1996 in Atlanta, Georgia during the 1996 Summer Olympics, the first of four committed by Eric Robert Rudolph, former explosives expert for the United States Army[1]. Two people died, and 111 were injured.

Just because our terrorists aren't foreign doesn't mean they don't exist... Two of my best friends parents were killed here: