Even start for all players

[Grifter]

Concise description:
Make the first round an even and fair start for all players by:

• players would not receive a bonus for any zones that they just happen to have
• all players would receive the same number of starting armies regardless of any regions they may have lost due to other players going first

Specifics:
On some maps (such as "Seige") if the first player just happens to hold an entire zone (such as "The Trone") then the player gets an extra army. This gives him/her an unfair advantage.

Also if every player starts with 12 regions (as an example) then the first play to start gets 4 armies. If the first player then attacks another player and conquers a region then that players gets only 3 armies to start with since s/he now has only 11 regions. Every player should be able to start with 4 armies.

After the first round it is game as usual.

This will improve the following aspects of the site:
Gives everyone a fair and even start to the game. Luck should be restricted to the dice or the cards

[Geger]

Good Idea !

[yeti_c]

This doesn't happen on the board game by another name - the drop is also random...

Of course - the blanket provision of 3's across the board changes the factors on this.

C.

[ManBungalow]

Without the element of luck cooks would never beat any high rankers, and it would be hard to get demoted ( ) and hard to get promoted ( )

The fun of playing cooks and the like is waiting to get a bad start and seeing what everyone does

[ManBungalow]

Oh yeah, plus it can be funny when people get a bad start and start going on about how bad everything is

I'm really evil

[cicero]

This suggestion has the first element in common with No continent bonus the first turn. Since the two are distinguished by the second element I am not merging them.

[ZeekLTK]

I second this.

I just joined a 1v1 game on the map "Italy" and before either of us have taken a turn I have already lost.

We each have 12 territories and he started on 2 "cities" so he gets another +1 bonus.

He gets to go first, so when he takes his turn he will get +5. On my turn I'll only get +3 because obviously he will take at least one of my territories and I did not start with any bonuses.

Unless this guy plays like a total idiot (and I'm not expecting him to) I don't see how I can possibly win (and no turns have even been taken yet!!).

[The Neon Peon]

Game 3799450

He started with an extra 1... not 2.

Also, the solution is simple: quench Qwert's maps faster.

[ZeekLTK]

Turn 1:
Him: +5
Me: +3

Turn 2:
Him: +4
Me: +3

Turn 3:
Him: +4
Me: +4

Turn 4:
Him: +4
Me: +3

Turn 5:
Him: +5
Me: +3

Overall:
Him: +22
Me: +16


(the game was over by then, and then he started getting +6, etc.)

Because of start positions he never had less than 4 armies per turn and (also because of start positions) I was never able to have more than 3 except for one turn.

[Marshes]

great idea imho.

[Grifter]

I feel your pain ZeekLTK. I had a similar experience on Siege map which prompted me to post this idea. I hope it gets accepted.

Even in sports they try to make the start of a game even. In football each side gets start a half. Imagine if the same team got to start both halves. In basketball it is thrown up in the air between 2 player so that each player has an equal chance to get the ball first.

[nick_la_trique]

Any follow up on this idea? How does one know when the idea is accepted or rejected?

My example is similar:
Bamboo Jack,1 vs 1, Tournament, No Spoils...
Red starts with 11 on his first turn because he owns the Brigde. On my first turn, I get 7. Game over from the start.

[AndyDufresne]

Some maps are specifically crafted for perfectly even starts---the Conquer style maps such as Feudal War, etc. Regarding the other maps, though every now and again one may get a bad (or good) drop, I believe the large majority of maps in play are quite balanced during the initial early turns. Keep in mind, certain settings applied to any map can unbalance a drop, such as 1vs1 unlimited on North America or World 2.1.


--Andy