pandev2 , tarutao2, paperyoga [Busted]

[amhowie]

hi just start a triple game today number 4806357 the three players that join the game started all at once. one of them started to attack just one player from our team then fort to his next team mate and then he started to attack that same player from the other team this went on

i had a look at all there of there profile and it says that they all join at the same time and date
Joined: 20/1/09 5:51 p04

i looked at there game history to find two game that look funny
4793766 paperyoga vs pandev2
&
4793761 paperyoga vs pandev2

in both games pandev2 only attacked the neutral player
the let paperyoga win

The accused are suspected of:
Being Multis

thank u for ur time andrew howie

[Rabid bunnies]

If you made the game freestyle I would assume that's just good freestyle teamplay?

Myself and my sister do the same thing, we joined a doubles game for the first time and we can deploy on each other's areas and share our men back and forth, so we take our turns together, it lets us attack and reinforce each other more effectively. We don't only have 3 people to attack with, we can focus on 1 area attacking with 6 or 7 people because we deploy our men on the same spot, then we fort from that spot to whichever of us hasn't attacked yet and then we attack from there. That way if we both want a card we can get one, if we don't need a card we can defend. You can also move men further that way if it's unlimited reinforcements. All in all it's pretty sweet.

Ask your partners if they'd be willing to move together with you. It'd make you guys more effective as a team instead of moving 1 at a time because you'll have the support of all players on your team focussing on whatever you want to accomplish at 1 time

[amhowie]

if u ask me that is very good team work from them. its the two other game that make me think they r Multis, did u look at them??

[Rabid bunnies]

Now that you mention it... (well you've already mentioned, I just commented on teamwork because that's the only thing I could relate to so far on this and I was sure it wasn't cheating but now that I look at the first game of the other 2 you mentioned...)

pendev did waste an attack against Germany. Maybe he thought fighting 3 for a card was better than fighting a 5 or a 4 but that doesn't explain how easily paperyoga mowed him down afterwards. It looks like Pendev was either very unlucky or just very wasteful with his men in the game.

Don't mind me lol. Also... if you'd like to play a trips game with a team that'll move at the same time as you let myself or Selucid Empire know and we'll play one

[n8dog]

I totally agree that they are multis, clever, but real stupid too.

I've played on this site long enough now to know that low ranked noobs are not this good that quick, and the way that they did it was real slick. Having the number '2' on the end of two of the usernames stood out, so I searched and found:

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 39&t=36844
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 39&t=39029

Sure, it's a freestyle TEAM game, but this stands out like white balls on a black dog. Can someone please investigate this?

[Selucid Empire]

White balls on a black dog.

(Ahem, sorry... that just stuck with me)

But yeah, I'd try a tripples game. As long as taking turns together isn't considered cheating we can give it a go. Jazzy likes to volunteer people for things quite often, whether they know it or not.

[Rabid bunnies]

You know you love me.

Anyway, back on topic, I'm sorry for shifting.

hi just start a triple game today number 4806357 the three players that join the game started all at once. one of them started to attack just one player from our team then fort to his next team mate and then he started to attack that same player from the other team this went on

i had a look at all there of there profile and it says that they all join at the same time and date
Joined: 20/1/09 5:51 p04

i looked at there game history to find two game that look funny
4793766 paperyoga vs pandev2
&
4793761 paperyoga vs pandev2

in both games pandev2 only attacked the neutral player
the let paperyoga win

The accused are suspected of:
Being Multis

thank u for ur time andrew howie

[lancehoch]

pandev2, turato2, and paperyoga are Busted.

[reggie_mac]

so what happens to the game now? do we still have to take our turns and they are deadbeated out?

[n8dog]

So we stated in the forum about the team that were cheating multis, and they were busted, but they still seem to be able to take there turns and even taunt us:

2009-05-04 23:22:54 - pandev2: sooooooo funny, easy way to win your ps, cheat

Can someone please enlighten us to what happens now? If we lose points to that multi, I'll be severely pissed off. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

[king sam]

So we stated in the forum about the team that were cheating multis, and they were busted, but they still seem to be able to take there turns and even taunt us:

2009-05-04 23:22:54 - pandev2: sooooooo funny, easy way to win your ps, cheat

Can someone please enlighten us to what happens now? If we lose points to that multi, I'll be severely pissed off. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

the players are allowed to continue all of their active and awaiting games.

so you need to play them to win cause you will lose the points if you lose

just the way it is

good luck

[reggie_mac]

naa, screw that, I'm just going to deadbeat. they can enjoy the wait.. im not at 100% anyway so couldn't give a flying.

[Rabid bunnies]

2009-05-03 15:57:07 - reggie_mac: BUSTED
2009-05-04 04:53:39 - tarutao2: ahahah heres the thief crying cause hes been robbed, but dont worry, my problem is just 5 min to create a new one. your problem is that yove lost and you cannot lose, thats a big one RAN AWAY RABBIT2009-05-04 16:11:06 - reggie_mac: what ever your on .. i want some.

Is he serious? He's just going to make another one and have no trouble?

[amhowie]

So we stated in the forum about the team that were cheating multis, and they were busted, but they still seem to be able to take there turns and even taunt us:

2009-05-04 23:22:54 - pandev2: sooooooo funny, easy way to win your ps, cheat

Can someone please enlighten us to what happens now? If we lose points to that multi, I'll be severely pissed off. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

the players are allowed to continue all of their active and awaiting games.

so you need to play them to win cause you will lose the points if you lose

just the way it is

good luck

so i pay to play conquer club, im in my 2nd term, i tell cc about a possible muilts and they get busted.
now u tell me that cc can not end games or give points back, we just have to win... no wonder muilts f**kin this site over, grow some balls cc.
look at the fun these wanker r having
:2009-05-04 23:22:54 - pandev2: sooooooo funny, easy way to win your ps, cheat
2009-05-04 22:53:39 - tarutao2: ahahah heres the thief crying cause hes been robbed, but dont worry, my problem is just 5 min to create a new one. your problem is that yove lost and you cannot lose, thats a big one RAN AWAY RABBIT
u know u can stop this cc

[n8dog]

the players are allowed to continue all of their active and awaiting games.

so you need to play them to win cause you will lose the points if you lose

Thanks for that tidbit king sam, but I'd like to ask if anyone here can point me to where that is stated on this site? Apart from doing a thorough forum search on that topic, it surely must be stated on the site somewhere plain to see like the rules page for example? I thought something along those lines would be there considering that it contains the following:

Rule #1: No multiple accounts

...They are strictly forbidden whether or not they play in the same games or are even in use...

So, the number one site rule gets clearly broken in a game containing 3 paying members (yes, it matters more to us cause we've paid money to play this game), and all we can find is some sympathy in the site forum with another member providing us information implying that CC allows cheaters to finish all their games, while affecting the victims overall ranking, even AFTER they've been caught? Sure, I understand if it was 'complicated' to reverse points after a game has been finished and is then protested, but come on - the game is still going, the cheaters are still playing and taking points from us.

That's absolutely retarded.

I'm currently waiting for the PM 'conversation' between amhowie and lancehoch to reach it's conclusion before I start PMing other site admins.

[reggie_mac]

hmm, well. Its not hard to stop access to someones account, therefore they would not be able to log-in and thus be deadbeated from the game, once it was over the points could be reset.

Don't tell me this is difficult, cause i have some experience in web dev and know it could be done, very very easily.

I must say I'm surprised that the account was not blocked as soon as these people were busted in the first place..

Cheaters and troublemakers detract from the gaming experience of all Conquer Club players, and proactive measures are employed to protect our membership. Conquer Club reserves the right to suspend accounts and cancel Premium Memberships, with or without warning, of those players who are deemed to have violated the rules.

So why are the accounts not suspended?

If the norm is to not suspend accounts of people caught cheating immediately , then the rules and/or signup page need to state that if you are in a game with people who are caught cheating then you will still have to finish the game and may loose points..
Is this important? hell yes, i wouldn't have paid for 2 years of membership (or brought a year for a friend) if i knew that people who were caught cheating are only dealt with retroactively, and without points exchange being voided.