Some thoughts for non-believers

JJM · Post by **JJM** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:47 pm

1. If you do not believe in god then how do you think the Bible predicted that Israel would once again become a nation?

2.If You believe we were created by a "big bang" then why our all our body symmetrical.

neanderpaul14 · Post by **neanderpaul14** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:52 pm

JJM wrote:1. If you do not believe in god then how do you think the Bible predicted that Israel would once again become a nation?

2.If You believe we were created by a "big bang" then why our all our body symmetrical.

Thanks for another great laugh Jimbo.

JJM · Post by **JJM** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:53 pm

neanderpaul14 wrote:
JJM wrote:1. If you do not believe in god then how do you think the Bible predicted that Israel would once again become a nation?

2.If You believe we were created by a "big bang" then why our all our body symmetrical.

Thanks for another great laugh Jimbo.

Can you please explain that post?

b.k. barunt · Post by **b.k. barunt** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:59 pm

The meaning of his post is that your post is laughable. I believe in God, but after reading your post i find myself now plagued with doubts. Go figure.

Honibaz

Orwell · Post by **Orwell** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:06 pm

JJM wrote:1. If you do not believe in god then how do you think the Bible predicted that Israel would once again become a nation?

I do not believe in God and I firmly believe people made the nation of Israel.

JJM wrote:2.If You believe we were created by a "big bang" then why our all our body symmetrical.

I do not believe we were created, I believe we have evolved - and symmetry is a natural permutation of evolution.

Let me ask you - Why do you care what I believe if you are certain of your own fate?

mpjh · Post by **mpjh** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:07 pm

JJM wrote:1. If you do not believe in god then how do you think the Bible predicted that Israel would once again become a nation?

2.If You believe we were created by a "big bang" then why our all our body symmetrical.

Ah, jim, our bodies are not symmetrical. If you haven't noticed, we have genitalia in front and butt holes in back. We have eyes in front and solid bone in back, except for moms that have eyes in the back of their heads. We have ears on the side and none in front and back. If we were symmetrical, we would all be shaped like spheres.

When are you going to learn to spell jim?

john9blue · Post by **john9blue** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:03 pm

mpjh wrote:Ah, jim, our bodies are not symmetrical. If you haven't noticed, we have genitalia in front and butt holes in back. We have eyes in front and solid bone in back, except for moms that have eyes in the back of their heads. We have ears on the side and none in front and back. If we were symmetrical, we would all be shaped like spheres.

Bilateral symmetry...

jonesthecurl · Post by **jonesthecurl** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:06 pm

Just puzzled: what has the Big bang to do with symmetrical bodies?

If you believe in God, how come muffins are not the same thing as English Muffins? (That question makes as much sense as yours)

mpjh · Post by **mpjh** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:14 pm

john9blue wrote:
mpjh wrote:Ah, jim, our bodies are not symmetrical. If you haven't noticed, we have genitalia in front and butt holes in back. We have eyes in front and solid bone in back, except for moms that have eyes in the back of their heads. We have ears on the side and none in front and back. If we were symmetrical, we would all be shaped like spheres.
Bilateral symmetry...

Sorry, still doesn't make sense. We are only somewhat symmetrical bilaterally from a frontal or rear view left and right, but from a side view, left and right, we are not at all symmetrical. So what is the dominant trait, the symmetry or the asymmetry?

john9blue · Post by **john9blue** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:26 pm

mpjh wrote:Sorry, still doesn't make sense. We are only somewhat symmetrical bilaterally from a frontal or rear view left and right, but from a side view, left and right, we are not at all symmetrical. So what is the dominant trait, the symmetry or the asymmetry?

Doesn't matter how much you are... you're either symmetrical or not. Some have more degrees of symmetry (starfish for instance) but we still qualify.

GabonX · Post by **GabonX** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:46 am

JJM..

How does symmetry of the body relate to God?

I legitimately want to understand what your point is but I don't.

john9blue · Post by **john9blue** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:00 am

jonesthecurl wrote:Just puzzled: what has the Big bang to do with symmetrical bodies?

If you believe in God, how come muffins are not the same thing as English Muffins? (That question makes as much sense as yours)

GabonX wrote:JJM..

How does symmetry of the body relate to God?

I legitimately want to understand what your point is but I don't.

I would guess he's using it as evidence for intelligent design... although symmetry is due to evolution at the molecular level, and there are more convincing arguments for ID than this. Even CreationWiki denies it:

CreationWiki response wrote:It is agreed that this is erroneous. This claim is not now nor was it ever generally used by creationists. It seems to be exclusive to this source.

You can do better, Jim.

Iliad · Post by **Iliad** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:25 am

Far too many people who normally disagree on everything agreeing.

b.k. barunt · Post by **b.k. barunt** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:29 am

I agree with illy.

Honibaz

MeDeFe · Post by **MeDeFe** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 4:11 am

It's the end of the world as we know it.

demonfork · Post by **demonfork** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 4:42 am

JJM wrote:1. If you do not believe in god then how do you think the Bible predicted that Israel would once again become a nation?

Weak argument, this could be nothing more than a self-fulfilling prophesy.

2.If You believe we were created by a "big bang" then why our all our body symmetrical.

I think I might see where you are going with this, that a symmetrical body is an indication of an intelligent design rather than the product of of natural selection and random mutation? Without further explanation I still think that you are presenting another weak argument for evidence of intelligent design.

But, I wouldn't worry If you were you...

As lame as your arguments are, you are still on the side of some of the greatest minds that mankind has ever known...

idiots like Copernicus, Galileo, Descartes, Newton, Planck, Einstein & many many others.

I mean, what fools those guys were for believing in God.

MeDeFe · Post by **MeDeFe** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 5:37 am

I don't think Einstein believed in a personal god.

mpjh · Post by **mpjh** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 5:40 am

Galileo would have been executed if he had said there was no god.

Neoteny · Post by **Neoteny** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:04 am

What is this I don't even

mpjh · Post by **mpjh** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:23 am

I think neo has started a new game called "finish the sentence."

jonesthecurl · Post by **jonesthecurl** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:28 am

demonfork wrote:
JJM wrote:1. If you do not believe in god then how do you think the Bible predicted that Israel would once again become a nation?
Weak argument, this could be nothing more than a self-fulfilling prophesy.

2.If You believe we were created by a "big bang" then why our all our body symmetrical.
I think I might see where you are going with this, that a symmetrical body is an indication of an intelligent design rather than the product of of natural selection and random mutation? Without further explanation I still think that you are presenting another weak argument for evidence of intelligent design.

But, I wouldn't worry If you were you...

As lame as your arguments are, you are still on the side of some of the greatest minds that mankind has ever known...

idiots like Copernicus, Galileo, Descartes, Newton, Planck, Einstein & many many others.

I mean, what fools those guys were for believing in God.

There is a little difference between believing there is a god, and believing that the external partial bilateral symmetry of humans is conclusive proof thereof.

comic boy · Post by **comic boy** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:35 am

If there is a God then how does Jim explain the number of retarded throwbacks that seem to populate North Dakota

jesterhawk · Post by **jesterhawk** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:02 am

demonfork wrote:
JJM wrote:1. If you do not believe in god then how do you think the Bible predicted that Israel would once again become a nation?
Weak argument, this could be nothing more than a self-fulfilling prophesy.

Very interesting since it was predicted before Israel was NOT a nation that they would be a nation AGAIN after they had been scattered. How is that self-fulfilling?

JH

Neoteny · Post by **Neoteny** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:04 am

Because then people who associate themselves with Israel would try to fulfill the prophecy by starting up the country?

heavycola · Post by **heavycola** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:05 am

Has this thread converted anyone else to Christianity?

Hallelujah! Nice work OP.

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