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Chariot of Fire wrote:As for GreecePwns.....yeah, what? A massive debt. Get a job you slacker.
Viceroy wrote:[The Biblical creation story] was written in a time when there was no way to confirm this fact and is in fact a statement of the facts.
Chariot of Fire wrote:As for GreecePwns.....yeah, what? A massive debt. Get a job you slacker.
Viceroy wrote:[The Biblical creation story] was written in a time when there was no way to confirm this fact and is in fact a statement of the facts.
GreecePwns wrote:LAOS has a nationalist faction that would be considered too far right for ND to associate themselves with.
The article is about a recent investigation by Russian intelligence uncovering a plot to assassinate former PM Kostas Karamanlis. Here is a better source of information which I am still reading right now. I'll give a more of a response when I'm done with this.
A new opinion poll was released a few minutes ago incidentally, so I will alter my results shortly to reflect it
EDIT: The results have been updated. This is the most recent opinion poll:
PASOK 12.0
ND 30.5
KKE 12.5
LAOS 6.0
SYRIZA 12.5
OP 3.0
DISY 2.5
DIMAR 13.0
ANTARSYA (Anticapitalist Left-Cooperation for the Overthrow: a communist party) 1.0
XA (Gold Dawn: a Neo-Nazi party) 2.5
ARMA (Panhellenic Citizen Chariot; a anti-bailout breakaway from PASOK which presently has 1 seat in Parliament) 2.5
Other 2.0
If we were to only include the results of this poll as our mock parliament, this would be the configuration
ND 126 seats
DIMAR 33
KKE 31
SYRIZA 31
PASOK 30
LAOS 15
OP 8
Chariot of Fire wrote:As for GreecePwns.....yeah, what? A massive debt. Get a job you slacker.
Viceroy wrote:[The Biblical creation story] was written in a time when there was no way to confirm this fact and is in fact a statement of the facts.
Chariot of Fire wrote:As for GreecePwns.....yeah, what? A massive debt. Get a job you slacker.
Viceroy wrote:[The Biblical creation story] was written in a time when there was no way to confirm this fact and is in fact a statement of the facts.
Chariot of Fire wrote:As for GreecePwns.....yeah, what? A massive debt. Get a job you slacker.
Viceroy wrote:[The Biblical creation story] was written in a time when there was no way to confirm this fact and is in fact a statement of the facts.
Chariot of Fire wrote:As for GreecePwns.....yeah, what? A massive debt. Get a job you slacker.
Viceroy wrote:[The Biblical creation story] was written in a time when there was no way to confirm this fact and is in fact a statement of the facts.
Chariot of Fire wrote:As for GreecePwns.....yeah, what? A massive debt. Get a job you slacker.
Viceroy wrote:[The Biblical creation story] was written in a time when there was no way to confirm this fact and is in fact a statement of the facts.
GreecePwns wrote:A new opinion poll released today has the neo-Nazi Golden Dawn and DISY in Parliament. Here is the seat configuration with 9 parties in Parliament:
ND 125
PASOK 36
KKE 35
SYRIZA 33
DIMAR 32
LAOS 14
Greens 9
DISY 8
XA 8
The 2 major parties recorded a record low 40.5% of votes in this opinion poll. In the last election in 2009, they had 77.4% of votes.
Under this configuration ND + PASOK is still the only possible coalition government. All others are either impossible or grossly unrealistic.
Chariot of Fire wrote:As for GreecePwns.....yeah, what? A massive debt. Get a job you slacker.
Viceroy wrote:[The Biblical creation story] was written in a time when there was no way to confirm this fact and is in fact a statement of the facts.
Chariot of Fire wrote:As for GreecePwns.....yeah, what? A massive debt. Get a job you slacker.
Viceroy wrote:[The Biblical creation story] was written in a time when there was no way to confirm this fact and is in fact a statement of the facts.
GreecePwns wrote:Scotty, will you continue to ignore the facts and make the Greek economic crisis a spending issue?
The Greek economic crisis was caused by corrupt officials from the federal government down to the local governments purposefully allowing taxpayers to report salaries on average 60 percent less than their real salary, which in turn causes massive government debt. The German and French power grabbers and ignorant fiscal conservatives can blame this on spending all they want and call for the Greek working people to be punished, but it is simply not true.
Chariot of Fire wrote:As for GreecePwns.....yeah, what? A massive debt. Get a job you slacker.
Viceroy wrote:[The Biblical creation story] was written in a time when there was no way to confirm this fact and is in fact a statement of the facts.
And what caused the debt?Phatscotty wrote:Right, Greece's debt has nothing to do with it....
Chariot of Fire wrote:As for GreecePwns.....yeah, what? A massive debt. Get a job you slacker.
Viceroy wrote:[The Biblical creation story] was written in a time when there was no way to confirm this fact and is in fact a statement of the facts.
GreecePwns wrote:The Greek economic crisis was caused by corrupt officials from the federal government down to the local governments purposefully allowing taxpayers to report salaries on average 60 percent less than their real salary, which in turn causes massive government debt...
The only way to solve the problem of tax evasion is by legalizing it?HapSmo19 wrote:GreecePwns wrote:The Greek economic crisis was caused by corrupt officials from the federal government down to the local governments purposefully allowing taxpayers to report salaries on average 60 percent less than their real salary, which in turn causes massive government debt...
Couldn't the government have just spent, on average, 60% less and avoided all this trouble?
Chariot of Fire wrote:As for GreecePwns.....yeah, what? A massive debt. Get a job you slacker.
Viceroy wrote:[The Biblical creation story] was written in a time when there was no way to confirm this fact and is in fact a statement of the facts.
GreecePwns wrote:And what caused the debt?Phatscotty wrote:Right, Greece's debt has nothing to do with it....
Hint hint: The tax evasion.
Phatscotty wrote:Have to stop you right there.
Government spending is the reason for the taxes, and high taxes are the reason for tax evasion. If Greece did not spend so much, there would not be a need for people to owe so much that they felt they needed to evade their taxes.
Government spending comes before the taxes to pay for the spending. Greece got it's nose stuck in the honey pot. Greece pigged out, big time. The pinnacle of greed...
Haggis_McMutton wrote:Phatscotty wrote:Have to stop you right there.
Government spending is the reason for the taxes, and high taxes are the reason for tax evasion. If Greece did not spend so much, there would not be a need for people to owe so much that they felt they needed to evade their taxes.
Government spending comes before the taxes to pay for the spending. Greece got it's nose stuck in the honey pot. Greece pigged out, big time. The pinnacle of greed...
So if taxes were "reasonable" then people would pay them purely out of a sense of duty, without any external inforcement?
Aww, the naivety is just adorable.
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