[OFFICIAL] Charle's Fun Mafia - "Game On" Day 2

[Extreme Ways]

I saw a world in which Ragian is a Town Vigilante, but I dont see why he would have played it the way he did then. If he is a town vigilante, Rag would just shut up and kill Sonic in the night. That world doesn't make sense.

[SoN!c]

The Bus Driver swaps their targets for that night so investigative results often get scrambled, since who you targeted and who you actually got a result on may not match.

But i confirm EW.

Lets say I’m the town Bus Driver (or mafia who needs to claim a believable story saying he is the town Bus driver). I would claim N1 I swapped Halrob with another player to protect Halrob if scum tried to NK him (which is a classic town protective/disruption play). Bus driving Halrob means any actions aimed at Halrob actually hit the other person i swapped him with, and vice versa.

This way I could have explained to have “visited” Halrob in a non protective way— because my power targets two people each night, and Halrob was one of them. I could say i would not name the second name because Im not sure if revealing it would hurt town or whatever, just saying i would explain later if needed..or i would claim to have have Halrob swapped with Kingm or Ragian, two of the D1 suspects. Or Darin whatever..Bus Driver is very swingy afterall but it’s a common role in setups and especially here in Charle's Fun Mafia. It would create exactly the kind of chaos we’re seeing — results not matching, visits being misread, etc. Probably the best role to claim if scum.

[SoN!c]

I saw a world in which Ragian is a Town Vigilante, but I dont see why he would have played it the way he did then. If he is a town vigilante, Rag would just shut up and kill Sonic in the night. That world doesn't make sense.

Neither does having a town vigilante in Ragian of all people vig firing knowing chances of a misfire N1 are extreme im pretty sure you know.

[Ragian]

What bugs me is Ragian pushing this so hard like it’s case closed. if anything, that looks like scum trying to frame me on half info. I get it why im the scum target. But if anything its not smart town play to go all in on a gamble which is not Ragians style when town in the first place.

What looks more off to me is how fast Ragian wanted to paint me as 100% scum without even considering other options like bodyguard or what Loose did questioning EW, or even considering sonic just playing along with EW. That’s not careful town logic — that’s pushing a narrative. Nothing a town thinking Ragian would do on such an important day.

so yeah, i’m putting this down:

Vote Ragian

And now an OMGUS vote

Moreover, you're misrepresenting how I play as town. Luckily, both EW and Loose will understand that. And how I play as town also varies depending on my role. For obvious reasons.

Rag, you've virtually counterclaimed a town protective role - haven't you?

Is there a possibility here of bus driving by mafia re you/sonic visiting Halrob.

And I must confess here I've raised a possibility of bus driving without really understanding the mechanics of that role.

There might be a bus driver involved. There might be other roles involved that meddles with night actions. It's just more logical to assume that that's not the case. Even if you have to change your opinion/read on someone.

I think you know - and everyone else will know - what knowledge I bring to the table, Loose. We don't have to spell it out.

EW is town. Im very sure on that assesment.

For all the rest i will have to take a leap of faith i guess. EW is the chess grand master..

I was breadcrumbing too D1 by posting the right songs.

One ACDC hard rock song (live at river plate argenitina 2009 is very famous by the hard core fans because the quote "i have one more in me")

And the name of the song seems very spot on after N1. When breadcrumbing i chose it because that was how i'd be playing the game. Hard and fast. Not thinking bout tomorrow

I figured this was a hard doc claim.

@EW, explain to me why you read this as Son!c claims doc here. I don't see an, "I'm town doc," in that post. Look, obviously I cannot be 100% sure that Son!c is scum. I don't have the luxury of knowing who's scum and who's town. What I do know is this:
1) Son!c visited halrob.
2) Son!c does not have a protective role (of course, I can't KNOW this, but from where I sit that is HIGHLY unlikely).

Make Son!c claim. As in a real claim. Not all that "my favourite song is blah blah blah" beating about the bush nonsense.

I saw a world in which Ragian is a Town Vigilante, but I dont see why he would have played it the way he did then. If he is a town vigilante, Rag would just shut up and kill Sonic in the night. That world doesn't make sense.

You've answered this yourself.

The Bus Driver swaps their targets for that night so investigative results often get scrambled, since who you targeted and who you actually got a result on may not match.

But i confirm EW.

Lets say I’m the town Bus Driver (or mafia who needs to claim a believable story saying he is the town Bus driver). I would claim N1 I swapped Halrob with another player to protect Halrob if scum tried to NK him (which is a classic town protective/disruption play). Bus driving Halrob means any actions aimed at Halrob actually hit the other person i swapped him with, and vice versa.

This way I could have explained to have “visited” Halrob in a non protective way— because my power targets two people each night, and Halrob was one of them. I could say i would not name the second name because Im not sure if revealing it would hurt town or whatever, just saying i would explain later if needed..or i would claim to have have Halrob swapped with Kingm or Ragian, two of the D1 suspects. Or Darin whatever..Bus Driver is very swingy afterall but it’s a common role in setups and especially here in Charle's Fun Mafia. It would create exactly the kind of chaos we’re seeing — results not matching, visits being misread, etc. Probably the best role to claim if scum.

No way a town busdriver chooses the uncontered town cop N1

FP'ed by Son!c

[SoN!c]

What bugs me is Ragian pushing this so hard like it’s case closed. if anything, that looks like scum trying to frame me on half info. I get it why im the scum target. But if anything its not smart town play to go all in on a gamble which is not Ragians style when town in the first place.

What looks more off to me is how fast Ragian wanted to paint me as 100% scum without even considering other options like bodyguard or what Loose did questioning EW, or even considering sonic just playing along with EW. That’s not careful town logic — that’s pushing a narrative. Nothing a town thinking Ragian would do on such an important day.

so yeah, i’m putting this down:

Vote Ragian

And now an OMGUS vote

Moreover, you're misrepresenting how I play as town. Luckily, both EW and Loose will understand that. And how I play as town also varies depending on my role. For obvious reasons.

Rag, you've virtually counterclaimed a town protective role - haven't you?

Is there a possibility here of bus driving by mafia re you/sonic visiting Halrob.

And I must confess here I've raised a possibility of bus driving without really understanding the mechanics of that role.

There might be a bus driver involved. There might be other roles involved that meddles with night actions. It's just more logical to assume that that's not the case. Even if you have to change your opinion/read on someone.

I think you know - and everyone else will know - what knowledge I bring to the table, Loose. We don't have to spell it out.

EW is town. Im very sure on that assesment.

For all the rest i will have to take a leap of faith i guess. EW is the chess grand master..

I was breadcrumbing too D1 by posting the right songs.

One ACDC hard rock song (live at river plate argenitina 2009 is very famous by the hard core fans because the quote "i have one more in me")

And the name of the song seems very spot on after N1. When breadcrumbing i chose it because that was how i'd be playing the game. Hard and fast. Not thinking bout tomorrow

I figured this was a hard doc claim.

@EW, explain to me why you read this as Son!c claims doc here. I don't see an, "I'm town doc," in that post. Look, obviously I cannot be 100% sure that Son!c is scum. I don't have the luxury of knowing who's scum and who's town. What I do know is this:
1) Son!c visited halrob.
2) Son!c does not have a protective role (of course, I can't KNOW this, but from where I sit that is HIGHLY unlikely).

Make Son!c claim. As in a real claim. Not all that "my favourite song is blah blah blah" beating about the bush nonsense.

I saw a world in which Ragian is a Town Vigilante, but I dont see why he would have played it the way he did then. If he is a town vigilante, Rag would just shut up and kill Sonic in the night. That world doesn't make sense.

You've answered this yourself.

The Bus Driver swaps their targets for that night so investigative results often get scrambled, since who you targeted and who you actually got a result on may not match.

But i confirm EW.

Lets say I’m the town Bus Driver (or mafia who needs to claim a believable story saying he is the town Bus driver). I would claim N1 I swapped Halrob with another player to protect Halrob if scum tried to NK him (which is a classic town protective/disruption play). Bus driving Halrob means any actions aimed at Halrob actually hit the other person i swapped him with, and vice versa.

This way I could have explained to have “visited” Halrob in a non protective way— because my power targets two people each night, and Halrob was one of them. I could say i would not name the second name because Im not sure if revealing it would hurt town or whatever, just saying i would explain later if needed..or i would claim to have have Halrob swapped with Kingm or Ragian, two of the D1 suspects. Or Darin whatever..Bus Driver is very swingy afterall but it’s a common role in setups and especially here in Charle's Fun Mafia. It would create exactly the kind of chaos we’re seeing — results not matching, visits being misread, etc. Probably the best role to claim if scum.

No way a town busdriver chooses the uncontered town cop N1

FP'ed by Son!c

[SoN!c]

Look, obviously I cannot be 100% sure that Son!c is scum. I don't have the luxury of knowing who's scum and who's town.

This is exactly the case on you Ragian.

[Ragian]

That, because I'm town, I don't know who is scum or town? Solid case.

[Ragian]

Did you, as EW seems to think, claim town doc, Son!c?