Ragian wrote:Fair. I'll join that choir. You don't want Skoffin to do the same?
Sure. Can we do one at a time?
I could go skoffin first if that's what the rest of town wants.
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Ragian wrote:Fair. I'll join that choir. You don't want Skoffin to do the same?
Razorvich wrote:Dgz..q. why you gunning for me
More to come tonight on my phone atm
dgz345 wrote:Ragian wrote:Fair. I'll join that choir. You don't want Skoffin to do the same?
Sure. Can we do one at a time?
I could go skoffin first if that's what the rest of town wants.
dgz345 wrote:Razorvich wrote:Dgz..q. why you gunning for me
More to come tonight on my phone atm
I'm on the phone all the time...
@Ragian. Sure.
Unvote vote skoffin
BuJaber wrote:Why does Ragian represent "the rest of town" all by himself?
Razorvich wrote:well from my perspective its real hard to tell who is bullshitting and who is not.
The only scummy post that really caught my eye was from Mets, when I ended Day 1.
Now you may say HA he just ended it to get onto night action, but that is not true. There was a lot of debate about why end the day with no lynch, and there were a lot of others that had the oportunity to unvote before I hammered it.
If you look at the list Mets, you were No 1. so had more chance than any of us to unvote, then spray me for ending it.
You are No 1 on my list atm.
Iliad wrote:The upside of calling everyone scum and making 1000 predictions is that statistically you should get a few right.
Ragian wrote:Also, where the frick is skoffin?
strike wolf wrote:Razorvich wrote:well from my perspective its real hard to tell who is bullshitting and who is not.
The only scummy post that really caught my eye was from Mets, when I ended Day 1.
Now you may say HA he just ended it to get onto night action, but that is not true. There was a lot of debate about why end the day with no lynch, and there were a lot of others that had the oportunity to unvote before I hammered it.
If you look at the list Mets, you were No 1. so had more chance than any of us to unvote, then spray me for ending it.
You are No 1 on my list atm.
Mets didn't vote No lynch. He replaced someone who wasn't around when it started or at all day 1 and by the time he joined No lynch was already one vote away. Either way, we aren't really arguing whether you or anyone else voting there was scummy just for voting no lynch. That's putting it in a vacuum. We're saying it was scummy that you ended the day without any meaningful contribution. You effectively ended the day without giving your own input into anything and denied town a chance to get more of a read on you and others. That's what stands out about you hammering no lynch when you did.
BuJaber wrote:Razor is in DBD right? So he should know mafia quite well.
BuJaber wrote:Also Ragian I suspect dgz. And I do like pressure on people not posting also. What I don't like is people who come up with cases/reasons to suspect people (whether they're good reasons or not is irrelevant for this point), but then vote somebody else who they're kinda 'meh' about or is a popular choice among voters. It's just really scummy.
BuJaber wrote:As WIFOMy as this is, I tend to think that he wouldn't have done such an obvious shady move if he were actually town. But that kinda assumes he's experienced enough to recognize that it will look really bad.
Metsfanmax wrote:The whole issue from D1 is that people like Pika and dgz were arguing that not only is it not shady to drop a quick "no lynch" hammer on D1, but actually it is the right thing to do. So if I were in Razor's shoes I might have felt like there was a lot of cover for that action.
strike wolf wrote:Razorvich wrote:well from my perspective its real hard to tell who is bullshitting and who is not.
The only scummy post that really caught my eye was from Mets, when I ended Day 1.
Now you may say HA he just ended it to get onto night action, but that is not true. There was a lot of debate about why end the day with no lynch, and there were a lot of others that had the oportunity to unvote before I hammered it.
If you look at the list Mets, you were No 1. so had more chance than any of us to unvote, then spray me for ending it.
You are No 1 on my list atm.
Mets didn't vote No lynch. He replaced someone who wasn't around when it started or at all day 1 and by the time he joined No lynch was already one vote away. Either way, we aren't really arguing whether you or anyone else voting there was scummy just for voting no lynch. That's putting it in a vacuum. We're saying it was scummy that you ended the day without any meaningful contribution. You effectively ended the day without giving your own input into anything and denied town a chance to get more of a read on you and others. That's what stands out about you hammering no lynch when you did.
Metsfanmax wrote:BuJaber wrote:As WIFOMy as this is, I tend to think that he wouldn't have done such an obvious shady move if he were actually town scum. But that kinda assumes he's experienced enough to recognize that it will look really bad.
The whole issue from D1 is that people like Pika and dgz were arguing that not only is it not shady to drop a quick "no lynch" hammer on D1, but actually it is the right thing to do. So if I were in Razor's shoes I might have felt like there was a lot of cover for that action.
BuJaber wrote:Also Ragian I suspect dgz. And I do like pressure on people not posting also. What I don't like is people who come up with cases/reasons to suspect people (whether they're good reasons or not is irrelevant for this point), but then vote somebody else who they're kinda 'meh' about or is a popular choice among voters. It's just really scummy.
BuJaber wrote:dgz345 wrote:BuJaber wrote:Also Ragian I suspect dgz. And I do like pressure on people not posting also. What I don't like is people who come up with cases/reasons to suspect people (whether they're good reasons or not is irrelevant for this point), but then vote somebody else who they're kinda 'meh' about or is a popular choice among voters. It's just really scummy.
You talking about my Razor to skoffin vote?
Yes but it was more a jab at Ragian for writing cases against everyone and then voting for skoffin despite not giving any reasons to suspect her, only saying "nothing there".
So he's my 2nd suspect right now.
Pikanchion wrote:Metsfanmax wrote:The whole issue from D1 is that people like Pika and dgz were arguing that not only is it not shady to drop a quick "no lynch" hammer on D1, but actually it is the right thing to do. So if I were in Razor's shoes I might have felt like there was a lot of cover for that action.
Point out where either of us said that outside of situations where doing so would result in additional kills for Town.
Pikanchion wrote:Ragian wrote:Do you also want no talking D1?
I don't care one way or the other but if we're planning not to lynch it's questionable what worth any discussion today will be. If we talk a lot we invite WIFOM situations where people try to guess if something talked about influenced the choice for N1 kill, if we don't then we start D2 as if it's a day one. Either way the lynch D2 is likely to be pretty random (and even if we don't talk much today there's a decent chance of people trying to discern who is scum based on who was killed as the basis for the D2 lynch) so it's really of little consequence if we talk a lot or a little today.
I'm just tired of having to have a lengthy discussion about whether it's worth lynching or not day one every single game when the choice is pretty clear cut most of the time.
BuJaber wrote:I didn't mean to type town in the above quote, I meant to say he wouldn't make that move as scum given how it would bring obvious attention to himself.
Razorvich wrote:I read everything and decided that a no lynch was the way to go. So really there is more than Mets that had to chance to stop it from happening.
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