Pikanchion wrote:Worst case for lynching kills a Vengeful and two random town, worst case for not lynching kills two random town and reveals who our Cop is to scum; we lynch somebody other than dakky21, this person is—for all intents and purposes—the same person dakky21 will choose, but then a Cop investigating dakky21 is discovered by a scum Watcher who's observing them, and then scum still get the same nightkill as in the other case. So is one of these worst case scenarios really significantly worse than the other?
Perhaps worth mentioning here is that the best case for not lynching dakky21 kills some random scum via lynch, while best case for lynching is that dakky21 is a scum-sided bomb, and we try to force some other random scum to make the hammer, lynching them instead when they refuse and getting to do the same thing tomorrow.
The former is an echo, the latter, yes but it's largely dependent on when the cop reveals. Wouldn't you agree that if a cop were to live at least for the next couple days that it narrows the margin of who is who significantly if he were to reveal, say, Day 4 or perhaps 5? You're thinking that someone is going to reveal the following day and simply toss his role to the wind. In any event, I doubt a cop would waste an investigation on Dakky when it's more beneficial to simply block him or divert him when we're unsure if he's town or not.
Pikanchion wrote:dakky21's role does gain power the later it's used, I'm not disputing that, but who gets to harness that power is dependant largely on the scum/town ratio, if the game is going well we don't need a powerful dakky21 anyway, if the game is going poorly we need to not have one. The worst case for lynching dakky21 only gets worse the fewer players we have, right now the worst case is losing power roles (which could happen anyway if we lynch another), later on the worst case is losing the game immediately at a point where lynching literally anybody else would not do that.
If we go under the assumption that dakky21 is town, what is so bad about finding these alternatives for the lynch and simply passing them over to dakky21 to arbitrate?
Sure, that's one of the worst case scenarios, but I don't believe it'll be down to the exact wire if Dakky were to be lynched and he turns bomb and we lose the game outright. If I recall at one point, Dakky did make a claim that was rather outrageous and tying himself to his scum partner by being a toy distributor or some such non sense. (Balance Not Included). I don't believe Dakky would make a claim for Vengeful, an actual role that's rarely used here. I'm about 80% sure Dakky says who he says he is. The other 20% is doubting myself and underestimating the situation.
May or may not have worded that correctly, but you should be asking yourself that question, rather than myself who wants to find an alternative now, who is seeing a potentially bad play and go back to Dakky at a later time.
forgot the gif :B
