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Here We Go Again

Postby Nobunaga on Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:55 pm

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Re: Here We Go Again

Postby Symmetry on Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:57 pm

Nobunaga wrote:Another hate crime in the US of A.

http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2012/04/0 ... on-camera/


As a brief comment, why a hate crime?
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Re: Here We Go Again

Postby Army of GOD on Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:13 pm

favorite comment on the article:

They wonder why there is racism still in this country. These black savages need to take their good for nothing welfare collecting butts back to Africa. Amazing these alll the typical racist black morons (jesse jackson, al sharpton, black panthers, etc) are not speaking out against this. Just imagine if i was whites on a black. They would all be crying wanting more handouts since they are incapable of living a life without mooching off the productive.


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Re: Here We Go Again

Postby Army of GOD on Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:17 pm

oh god...just read the comments on the article.

This country is a shit hole.
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Re: Here We Go Again

Postby BigBallinStalin on Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:49 pm

Army of GOD wrote:oh god...just read the comments on the article.

This country is a shit hole.


Anonymous posts aren't representative of the US. It's representative of the internet. There's different institutions, i.e. rules of the game, at play.
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Re: Here We Go Again

Postby Army of GOD on Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:53 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:oh god...just read the comments on the article.

This country is a shit hole.


Anonymous posts aren't representative of the US. It's representative of the internet. There's different institutions, i.e. rules of the game, at play.


I suppose, but that doesn't assuage the amount of racism on that article.
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Re: Here We Go Again

Postby Phatscotty on Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:10 pm

Check youtube comments sometime. You will find even more comments by 7 year olds.
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Re: Here We Go Again

Postby Nobunaga on Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:53 pm

Of course it's a hate crime, racially motivated.

When a group (or even an individual) of one race attacks a person of another race, that's a hate crime. Those are the new rules.
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Re: Here We Go Again

Postby Symmetry on Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:59 pm

Nobunaga wrote:Of course it's a hate crime, racially motivated.

When a group (or even an individual) of one race attacks a person of another race, that's a hate crime. Those are the new rules.


Hmm, kind of hard to justify that. What are you basing that on?
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Re: Here We Go Again

Postby Nobunaga on Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:11 pm

Symmetry wrote:
Nobunaga wrote:Another hate crime in the US of A.

http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2012/04/0 ... on-camera/


As a brief comment, why a hate crime?


A hate crime is a traditional offense like murder, arson, or vandalism with an added element of bias. For the purposes of collecting statistics, Congress has defined a hate crime as a "criminal offense against a person or property motivated in whole or in part by an offender's bias against a race, religion, disability, ethnic origin or sexual orientation" (Hate Crimes, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Retrieved, December 15, 2011).
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Re: Here We Go Again

Postby Symmetry on Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:14 pm

Nobunaga wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Nobunaga wrote:Another hate crime in the US of A.

http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2012/04/0 ... on-camera/


As a brief comment, why a hate crime?


A hate crime is a traditional offense like murder, arson, or vandalism with an added element of bias. For the purposes of collecting statistics, Congress has defined a hate crime as a "criminal offense against a person or property motivated in whole or in part by an offender's bias against a race, religion, disability, ethnic origin or sexual orientation" (Hate Crimes, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Retrieved, December 15, 2011).


So why was this a hate crime? It's just that it wasn't mentioned in your source.
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Re: Here We Go Again

Postby army of nobunaga on Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:15 pm

Army of GOD wrote:oh god...just read the comments on the article.

This country is a shit hole.



You have never left the country have you... lived in another country???? Interesting.


The problem is this country gives every person a voice in particular the fringe... and IDIOTS... eat it up.. including the dude that started the thread... the real nobunaga would have disemboweled you for this portrayal of slime just for attention to yourself.

I am dishonored you even share my name..... wow.

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Re: Here We Go Again

Postby Nobunaga on Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:18 pm

Symmetry wrote:
Nobunaga wrote:
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Nobunaga wrote:Another hate crime in the US of A.

http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2012/04/0 ... on-camera/


As a brief comment, why a hate crime?


A hate crime is a traditional offense like murder, arson, or vandalism with an added element of bias. For the purposes of collecting statistics, Congress has defined a hate crime as a "criminal offense against a person or property motivated in whole or in part by an offender's bias against a race, religion, disability, ethnic origin or sexual orientation" (Hate Crimes, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Retrieved, December 15, 2011).


So why was this a hate crime? It's just that it wasn't mentioned in your source.


The victim is white. The assailants all appear to be black. That's all it takes. Hate, obviously.
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Re: Here We Go Again

Postby whitestazn88 on Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:20 pm

Army of Cowabunga, poster of the year 2012. Best comments ever, and it's great how non sequitur they are. It always takes some time for me to try to map out your thoughts while you posted.
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Re: Here We Go Again

Postby Symmetry on Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:20 pm

Nobunaga wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Nobunaga wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Nobunaga wrote:Another hate crime in the US of A.

http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2012/04/0 ... on-camera/


As a brief comment, why a hate crime?


A hate crime is a traditional offense like murder, arson, or vandalism with an added element of bias. For the purposes of collecting statistics, Congress has defined a hate crime as a "criminal offense against a person or property motivated in whole or in part by an offender's bias against a race, religion, disability, ethnic origin or sexual orientation" (Hate Crimes, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Retrieved, December 15, 2011).


So why was this a hate crime? It's just that it wasn't mentioned in your source.


The victim is white. The assailants all appear to be black. That's all it takes. Hate, obviously.


They appear to be "black"?
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Re: Here We Go Again

Postby whitestazn88 on Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:23 pm

Symmetry wrote:They appear to be "black"?


They could be some kind of arab moslems, I reckon
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Re: Here We Go Again

Postby Symmetry on Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:23 pm

whitestazn88 wrote:Army of Cowabunga, poster of the year 2012. Best comments ever, and it's great how non sequitur they are. It always takes some time for me to try to map out your thoughts while you posted.


Yeah, you might be mixing up two different posters. Just saying.
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Re: Here We Go Again

Postby Nobunaga on Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:25 pm

They are indeed black. I just double-checked. Hate - isn't it tragic?
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Re: Here We Go Again

Postby Nobunaga on Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:34 pm

army of nobunaga wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:oh god...just read the comments on the article.

This country is a shit hole.



You have never left the country have you... lived in another country???? Interesting.


The problem is this country gives every person a voice in particular the fringe... and IDIOTS... eat it up.. including the dude that started the thread... the real nobunaga would have disemboweled you for this portrayal of slime just for attention to yourself.

I am dishonored you even share my name..... wow.

I can pull up alien articles and conspiracy articles too for attention.


You're missing the point.

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Re: Here We Go Again

Postby Army of GOD on Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:35 pm

whitestazn88 wrote:Army of Cowabunga, poster of the year 2012. Best comments ever, and it's great how non sequitur they are. It always takes some time for me to try to map out your thoughts while you posted.


I'm still trying to decipher what the Hell he meant.

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Re: Here We Go Again

Postby Nobunaga on Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:37 pm

Army of GOD wrote:
whitestazn88 wrote:Army of Cowabunga, poster of the year 2012. Best comments ever, and it's great how non sequitur they are. It always takes some time for me to try to map out your thoughts while you posted.


I'm still trying to decipher what the Hell he meant.

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It's tough. They're a bunch of drunks and not enough women around to keep em distracted.
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Re: Here We Go Again

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:08 pm

Symmetry wrote:
Nobunaga wrote:Of course it's a hate crime, racially motivated.

When a group (or even an individual) of one race attacks a person of another race, that's a hate crime. Those are the new rules.


Hmm, kind of hard to justify that. What are you basing that on?


I love you how go back and forth depending on what race the victim is.
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Re: Here We Go Again

Postby nietzsche on Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:16 pm

Army of GOD wrote:oh god...just read the comments on the article.

This country is a shit hole.


What are you talking about??

It's just human nature to fear others and to feel insecure among people different from you. Imagine what goes in the back of the mind of people who find all those daily provocations to their fears and have to hide them because they repeat to them 123213 times a day what racism is and that is wrong. But there's also some old timers in their family that tell them racism is right.

Some just gotta snap. There's too much tension, but it isn't anybodies fault, it's fault of the situation. It's like sex in the catholic countries.

If you repress something that's natural to your nature it will have to come to the surface like a volcano every once in a while.

It amuses me how Americans consider that something it's true only because it's been repeated to them 100 times a day.
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Re: Here We Go Again

Postby PLAYER57832 on Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:19 pm

Nobunaga wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Nobunaga wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Nobunaga wrote:Another hate crime in the US of A.

http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2012/04/0 ... on-camera/


As a brief comment, why a hate crime?


A hate crime is a traditional offense like murder, arson, or vandalism with an added element of bias. For the purposes of collecting statistics, Congress has defined a hate crime as a "criminal offense against a person or property motivated in whole or in part by an offender's bias against a race, religion, disability, ethnic origin or sexual orientation" (Hate Crimes, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Retrieved, December 15, 2011).


So why was this a hate crime? It's just that it wasn't mentioned in your source.


The victim is white. The assailants all appear to be black. That's all it takes. Hate, obviously.

No, that's not all it takes.. nor is it what your descriptions showed. To be a hate crime, someone has to be attacked BECAUSE they were of another race, etc and because the person feels that is essentially reason enough for the criminal act. But perpetuating the belief that this is about any attack between races or people of differing ethnic identities, religions, etc, will lead to a lot more devision and hatred, so congratulate yourself for that.
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Re: Here We Go Again

Postby PLAYER57832 on Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:28 pm

nietzsche wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:oh god...just read the comments on the article.

This country is a shit hole.


What are you talking about??

It's just human nature to fear others and to feel insecure among people different from you. Imagine what goes in the back of the mind of people who find all those daily provocations to their fears and have to hide them because they repeat to them 123213 times a day what racism is and that is wrong. But there's also some old timers in their family that tell them racism is right. .

There will always be people wanting to find things wrong in other people things that make them superior to those "others". It is why we have sexism, racism, etc, etc. and you certainly see it here in religious debates.

However, the difference between civilization and anarchy is that in civilization acting upon those feeling is severely limited and most people at least try to keep the feelings to a minimum. But, the hard part is the target always changes. A standard is that whoever is less fortunate, poorer, at the bottom of society is always somehow "guilty" of doing something "bad" -- be it true evil or just distasteful/laziness, etc.

And that is why today's rhetoric is getting more and more frightening. Becuase the belief, again, that it is OK to blame the lower classes for their misfortune, that those who don't have decent jobs just are not working hard enough and are "lazY' (though not all of those you know personally, of course) is becoming mainstream. Even suggesting something different gets one labeled an "arrogant liberal".

It is one thing to disagreem and debate someone fiercely, but to disdain anyone who disagrees, as we see so prominent in today's poiltics and rhetoric, ... is a fearsome and extraordinarily worrisome development.
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