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Postby sfhbballnut on Thu May 24, 2007 12:57 pm

round three tonight, both in the series and Smoltz vs Glavine, I sense a 200th win in the force.......
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Postby strike wolf on Thu May 24, 2007 1:35 pm

I'd take Smoltz over glavine anyday.
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Postby ritz627 on Thu May 24, 2007 1:58 pm

strike wolf wrote:I'd take Smoltz over glavine anyday.


Who wouldn't?
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Postby strike wolf on Thu May 24, 2007 2:00 pm

Probably Jay.
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Postby jay_a2j on Thu May 24, 2007 2:04 pm

strike wolf wrote:Probably Jay.



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Postby strike wolf on Thu May 24, 2007 2:05 pm

We'll see. That's all I have to say.
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Postby ritz627 on Thu May 24, 2007 2:12 pm

Yea, jay, I'm sorry to inform you, but smotlz is not only better skill-wise, he is more versitle and durable. I know you want to say glavine was better b/c he plays for your team, but he's just not.
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Postby jay_a2j on Thu May 24, 2007 2:17 pm

ritz627 wrote:Yea, jay, I'm sorry to inform you, but smotlz is not only better skill-wise, he is more versitle and durable. I know you want to say glavine was better b/c he plays for your team, but he's just not.



The team as a whole is better and that will be the decider!
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Postby ritz627 on Thu May 24, 2007 4:42 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
ritz627 wrote:Yea, jay, I'm sorry to inform you, but smotlz is not only better skill-wise, he is more versitle and durable. I know you want to say glavine was better b/c he plays for your team, but he's just not.



The team as a whole is better and that will be the decider!


I didn't say that they weren't...but you did say that you would take glavin over smoltz.
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Postby GosoxJ on Thu May 24, 2007 6:09 pm

ritz627 wrote:Yea, jay, I'm sorry to inform you, but smotlz is not only better skill-wise, he is more versitle and durable. I know you want to say glavine was better b/c he plays for your team, but he's just not.
That's only why Glavine has almost 100 more wins, 1000 more innings pitched, and 9 more shutouts. However Smoltz has 154 more saves, like 450 less walks, 300 more strikeouts, and a .20 lower career ERA.
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Postby ritz627 on Thu May 24, 2007 7:19 pm

GosoxJ wrote:
ritz627 wrote:Yea, jay, I'm sorry to inform you, but smotlz is not only better skill-wise, he is more versitle and durable. I know you want to say glavine was better b/c he plays for your team, but he's just not.
That's only why Glavine has almost 100 more wins, 1000 more innings pitched, and 9 more shutouts. However Smoltz has 154 more saves, like 450 less walks, 300 more strikeouts, and a .20 lower career ERA.


Exactly, the reason Smoltz has less wins and less innings, and less shutouts is because he was a closer for most of his career. I guess it is debatable who is more durable, but I still say Smoltz is more versitle and just plain better.
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Postby dwightschrute on Thu May 24, 2007 7:33 pm

ritz627 wrote:
GosoxJ wrote:
ritz627 wrote:Yea, jay, I'm sorry to inform you, but smotlz is not only better skill-wise, he is more versitle and durable. I know you want to say glavine was better b/c he plays for your team, but he's just not.
That's only why Glavine has almost 100 more wins, 1000 more innings pitched, and 9 more shutouts. However Smoltz has 154 more saves, like 450 less walks, 300 more strikeouts, and a .20 lower career ERA.


Exactly, the reason Smoltz has less wins and less innings, and less shutouts is because he was a closer for most of his career. I guess it is debatable who is more durable, but I still say Smoltz is more versitle and just plain better.
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Postby strike wolf on Thu May 24, 2007 9:00 pm

ritz627 wrote:
GosoxJ wrote:
ritz627 wrote:Yea, jay, I'm sorry to inform you, but smotlz is not only better skill-wise, he is more versitle and durable. I know you want to say glavine was better b/c he plays for your team, but he's just not.
That's only why Glavine has almost 100 more wins, 1000 more innings pitched, and 9 more shutouts. However Smoltz has 154 more saves, like 450 less walks, 300 more strikeouts, and a .20 lower career ERA.




Exactly, the reason Smoltz has less wins and less innings, and less shutouts is because he was a closer for most of his career. I guess it is debatable who is more durable, but I still say Smoltz is more versitle and just plain better.


Actually Smoltz has been a starter for most of his carreer. The 154 saves came in a three or four year span where we felt we needed him as closer more (That and he had injured his shoulder and didn't have enough endurance for the starter position for a while.) And wins do not define a pitcher, A pitcher can have a 0.01 era through 200 games and come out with 200 no decisions (HIGHLY unlikely but theoretically possible.) Or a pitcher can have a very high era in the same 200 game span and still come out with 90 or more wins. ERA and strike outs are more solid statistics for telling how good a pitcher is (particularly ERA) and in those categories Smoltz has glavine beat.
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Postby jay_a2j on Thu May 24, 2007 9:21 pm

Atlanta won. Congrats strikewolf. Good Game.
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Postby strike wolf on Thu May 24, 2007 9:31 pm

tell that to the team, not the fans. It was a good game and Smoltz pitched 7 solid innings (though the 7th was a little scary, just a little). My only regret about the Braves right now is that they don't play every team the way they play the Mets. If we did we would have a substantial lead in the division right now.
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Postby sfhbballnut on Sun May 27, 2007 9:11 pm

Angels dominate the Bankees in their series, I'm lovin it (yes I know we got swept by the Phillies, but still, bankees losing is a good day)
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Postby unriggable on Sun May 27, 2007 9:26 pm

f*ck the yankees.
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Postby riggable on Sun May 27, 2007 10:31 pm

Steinbrenner has issued a statement saying Brian Cashman is "in the hotseat" due to yankees crappy performance.



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Postby dominationnation on Sun May 27, 2007 10:33 pm

unriggable wrote:f*ck the yankees.

and the mets. and the red sox. and the astros. and the nationals. and the padres. and every other team besides he cardinals
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Postby spurgistan on Sun May 27, 2007 11:40 pm

dominationnation wrote:
unriggable wrote:f*ck the yankees.

and the mets. and the red sox. and the astros. and the nationals. and the padres. and every other team besides he cardinals


but do you really? i find it hard to hate that much, i guess I dislike most teams that aren't the redsox or whitesox, but the only team I really hate (and therefore want to see F*ked) are the new york yankees.
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Postby jay_a2j on Sun May 27, 2007 11:42 pm

dominationnation wrote:
unriggable wrote:f*ck the yankees.

and the mets. and the red sox. and the astros. and the nationals. and the padres. and every other team besides he cardinals




Don't hate because the wrong team won the NL last year! :wink:
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Postby sfhbballnut on Thu May 31, 2007 9:59 pm

rough season so far for the cards, come on bankeees couple more losses to last place!!!!!!!!
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Postby Serbia on Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:23 am

I just looked at the standings. NYY are 22-29. What a wonderful day.
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Postby sfhbballnut on Sat Jun 02, 2007 4:02 pm

under .500 is always good, of course lower is always better
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Postby Sackett58 on Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:48 pm

sfhbballnut wrote:under .500 is always good, of course lower is always better


Ah crimeny, I knew it was to good to last.


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Boston Red Sox 41 22 .651 --
New York Yankees 31 31 .500 9.5
Toronto Blue Jays 30 34 .469 11.5
Tampa Bay Devil Rays 29 33 .468 11.5
Baltimore Orioles 29 35 .453 12.5
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