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Re: Discussion Moderators: Until When?

Postby BGtheBrain on Thu May 10, 2012 10:14 pm

pimpdave wrote:It's not bigoted. I'm not saying all Catholics are child rapists, I'm saying the organization is fabricated in a way to maintain and keep a culture of child rape hidden for 2000 years, or, in other words, a front. The fact that the Catholic church can't just execute people as heretics for speaking out against the child rape anymore doesn't mean it wasn't going on for millennia.

Dave. Your statement I reported was clear.
Check the link. You said te catholic church was based on a front to f*ck young boys.

This is saying and entire religion was made I cover up child rape?

The link is there. You can see what you said. To expand on your rule violating statement now is a joke

Almost as big as a joke that it's taken over 2 months to do nothing about it.

Religion bashing is in the same guideline as homophobic comments

Max gets banned in 30 minutes.
Dave skates free because clearly the catholic church is ok to be bigoted towards.

Why is this ok?
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Re: Discussion Moderators: Until When?

Postby pimpdave on Thu May 10, 2012 10:23 pm

But what I said isn't bigoted. Are you being serious right now? Are you having difficulty with this concept? I don't know how to make it any more simple or clear. Read the fucking article.
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Re: Discussion Moderators: Until When?

Postby BGtheBrain on Thu May 10, 2012 10:43 pm

I don't give a shit about your fucking article.

I give a shit about the comment you made.

Why don't you go copy and paste a 2 year old article about the tea party.

You are wrong on this an you crossed the line. That's why you keep trying to bait me.
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Re: Discussion Moderators: Until When?

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Thu May 10, 2012 10:51 pm

BGtheBrain wrote:I don't give a shit about your fucking article.

I give a shit about the comment you made.

Why don't you go copy and paste a 2 year old article about the tea party.

You are wrong on this an you crossed the line. That's why you keep trying to bait me.


He stated an opinion and posted a source to back it up.

You refuse to read the source material and keep trying to get him banned rather than defeating his argument in debate.

Who is supposed to be the bigoted one here again?

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Re: Discussion Moderators: Until When?

Postby Night Strike on Thu May 10, 2012 10:55 pm

Haggis_McMutton wrote:
BGtheBrain wrote:I don't give a shit about your fucking article.

I give a shit about the comment you made.

Why don't you go copy and paste a 2 year old article about the tea party.

You are wrong on this an you crossed the line. That's why you keep trying to bait me.


He stated an opinion and posted a source to back it up.

You refuse to read the source material and keep trying to get him banned rather than defeating his argument in debate.

Who is supposed to be the bigoted one here again?

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Obstinately convinced of the superiority or correctness of one's own opinions and prejudiced against those who hold different opinions.
Expressing or characterized by prejudice and intolerance.


Don't worry BG, it's only Christians who have to defend the attacks against them. If Christians even make a statement disagreeing with something, it's labeled as bigotry.

And Haggis, no one here supports the abuse that happened by some Catholic priests, so why would we defend the article? However, using the article to state that the entire Catholic church is a front for pedophilia is bigotry because clearly the entire Catholic church does not abuse children.
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Re: Discussion Moderators: Until When?

Postby pimpdave on Thu May 10, 2012 11:02 pm

Night Strike wrote:Don't worry BG, it's only Christians who have to defend the attacks against them. If Christians even make a statement disagreeing with something, it's labeled as bigotry.


But you're the ones arguing for the ban here. The rest of us are just criticizing your ideas the way you're saying you're entitled to criticize ours.

I mean, I know you have a serious persecution complex and all, but maybe you could try actually following your Christ and treat others the way you demand you be treated.
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Re: Discussion Moderators: Until When?

Postby Night Strike on Thu May 10, 2012 11:06 pm

pimpdave wrote:
Night Strike wrote:Don't worry BG, it's only Christians who have to defend the attacks against them. If Christians even make a statement disagreeing with something, it's labeled as bigotry.


But you're the ones arguing for the ban here. The rest of us are just criticizing your ideas the way you're saying you're entitled to criticize ours.

I mean, I know you have a serious persecution complex and all, but maybe you could try actually following your Christ and treat others the way you demand you be treated.


I actually do treat others the way I want to be treated because I don't post bigotry. However, the amount of vitriol against Christianity by people saying things like "the Catholic church is a front for child abuse" and "anyone who believes in creation is inferior to me" continues to grow unpunished, even though they are clearly bigoted. Bigotry is supposed to be disciplined on this site, yet if you make a statement against Christians, it doesn't count.
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Re: Discussion Moderators: Until When?

Postby pimpdave on Thu May 10, 2012 11:08 pm

I don't post bigotry either.

Why do you support child rape, Night Strike?
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Re: Discussion Moderators: Until When?

Postby BGtheBrain on Thu May 10, 2012 11:10 pm

From the CC guidelines

Bigotry includes racism, sexism, ageism, homophobia/sexual orientation bashing, religion bashing, lack of religion bashing, or wishing violence on any group of people, etc.

It doesn't matter the article says. I can find an article to validate any claim I make. It doesn't give me the right to spew bigotry.

Read Dave's post that I linked. Read the guidelines about bigotry.
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Re: Discussion Moderators: Until When?

Postby Night Strike on Thu May 10, 2012 11:12 pm

pimpdave wrote:I don't post bigotry either.

Why do you support child rape, Night Strike?


Really? So now you're going to troll in a thread about you trolling?

Where did I support child rape? In fact, I believe I clearly stated "no one here supports the abuse that happened by some Catholic priests".
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Re: Discussion Moderators: Until When?

Postby pimpdave on Thu May 10, 2012 11:15 pm

So then Night Strike, why are you saying it's bigotry to point out the rampant, church-wide epidemic of child rape that's actively being covered up by the Pope? Shouldn't you be more upset about the fact that it's STILL GOING ON AND ACTIVELY BEING COVERED UP rather than someone mentioning that children are being abused?
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Re: Discussion Moderators: Until When?

Postby pimpdave on Thu May 10, 2012 11:16 pm

BGtheBrain wrote:From the CC guidelines

Bigotry includes racism, sexism, ageism, homophobia/sexual orientation bashing, religion bashing, lack of religion bashing, or wishing violence on any group of people, etc.

It doesn't matter the article says. I can find an article to validate any claim I make. It doesn't give me the right to spew bigotry.

Read Dave's post that I linked. Read the guidelines about bigotry.


You should read the post that Haggis made. It addresses this. You're just repeating yourself. Thus you are spamming and that is a super violation of the guidelines or something.
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Re: Discussion Moderators: Until When?

Postby Night Strike on Thu May 10, 2012 11:17 pm

pimpdave wrote:So then Night Strike, why are you saying it's bigotry to point out the rampant, church-wide epidemic of child rape that's actively being covered up by the Pope? Shouldn't you be more upset about the fact that it's STILL GOING ON AND ACTIVELY BEING COVERED UP rather than someone mentioning that children are being abused?


What BG said was bigotry was saying that the Catholic church exists solely so that its members can abuse children. And I agree with BG.

Of course children shouldn't be abused, past or present, but that doesn't mean the church exists simply to allow and promote the activity.
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Re: Discussion Moderators: Until When?

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Fri May 11, 2012 3:25 am

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Re: Discussion Moderators: Until When?

Postby Dukasaur on Fri May 11, 2012 4:11 am

pimpdave wrote:I don't post bigotry either.

Why do you support child rape, Night Strike?

This post has already been reported.

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Re: Discussion Moderators: Until When?

Postby Dukasaur on Fri May 11, 2012 4:16 am

pimpdave wrote:So then Night Strike, why are you saying it's bigotry to point out the rampant, church-wide epidemic of child rape that's actively being covered up by the Pope? Shouldn't you be more upset about the fact that it's STILL GOING ON AND ACTIVELY BEING COVERED UP rather than someone mentioning that children are being abused?

Don't try to change the fucking subject. The point is that you are starting with a crime of which possibly 1,000 or 2,000 people are guilty, and using that to slander possibly 500,000,000 or 600,000,000 people who are not guilty of it. Your previously cited posts are pretty unequivocal. You call ALL Catholics pedophiles, not just some of them. That is blatant bigotry; no different than saying that because x number of blacks commit armed robbery, therefore all blacks should be incarcerated.
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Re: Discussion Moderators: Until When?

Postby BGtheBrain on Fri May 11, 2012 8:17 am

Ok so I took some time to go through my accusation that Dave is in fact guilty of violating CC's bigotry guidelines. The guidelines which include Religion Bashing under Bigotry.

Here is just some of what I could find.

Why is he allowed to continue his intolerance and hatred of the catholic church so openly? I dont care if you dont like the church thats fine, you can do that without being a bigot.

pimpdave wrote:I'm not sure that's true of all religions, I'm pretty sure Scientology is based on defrauding people and the Catholic Church is based on a front for fucking young boys in the face and ass.
viewtopic.php?f=8&p=3666417#p3666417


pimpdave wrote:Why were so many Catholics Nazis? Experts have determined that it's because the Catholic church has so much in common with Nazism it was an easy, natural fit.
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pimpdave wrote:The world's foremost pederast support network, the Catholic Church, is probably angry to the point of raping boys extra hard today, as Italy decided it would no longer subsidize the sodomizing of children. Jerry Sandusky is also probably enraged out of sympathy.
What do you guys think? Should Catholics who tithe be charged with aiding and abetting child rapists?
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pimpdave wrote:Follow up question, should the People of the United States of America bring a class action against the United States of America for subsidizing the child raping criminal organization of the Catholic Church?

Under George W. Bush, the Catholic Church received 2.8 billion dollars a year in tax breaks. Meanwhile, conservatives are flipping out over Solyndra, which only failed because the cost of silicon plummeted making their innovative design to reduce cost no longer necessary. And they received only one check from the government and it was for way way way way less than the Catholic Church.

Where's the outrage over the conservative support for fucking children in the ass?
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pimpdave wrote:It's about time the Catholic church just be identified for the criminal organization it is and we can ignore them entirely.

"Oh, but they do charity!" you say. Yeah, well, most gangsters give out turkeys on Thanksgiving too. The Catholic church is a massive boy fucking organization and the leaders need to be put in jail for conspiracy to sodomize on children.
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pimpdave wrote:Only Protestants can act for good, as they are the only ones who exhibit democratic tendencies.

Catholic Church = Absolute power in the hands of One

Absolute power corrupts absolutely, making that power EVIL.

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Now for those of you who want to pull a definition of bigotry and pretend this isnt it, here is a Link to Community Guidelines for this website. Since these are the rules of the website, they should have an impact on how bigotry is interpreted.
Bigotry includes racism, sexism, ageism, homophobia/sexual orientation bashing, religion bashing, lack of religion bashing, or wishing violence on any group of people, etc.


Either dave is guilty of bigotry by way of religion bashing, or Conquer Club needs to remove religion bashing from the guidelines since it cant take the rule seriously.

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2. a decisive defeat: We gave the visiting team a good bashing.
3.(used in combination)
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b. verbal abuse, as of a group or a nation: feminist-bashing; China-bashing.
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Re: Discussion Moderators: Until When?

Postby pimpdave on Fri May 11, 2012 11:04 am

I didn't bash the religion, I criticized the power structure of an organization that is protecting a great evil. It's no different from any of the myriad of posts criticizing the structure of American government, that so many of you conservatives claim is becoming a socialist nightmare, or something. Why aren't you outraged about people criticizing Democrats? Or, as you would put it, "bashing" them.

You're really grasping at straws here. And seriously, why are you defending child rape so passionately? You really need to answer that question.
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Re: Discussion Moderators: Until When?

Postby thegreekdog on Fri May 11, 2012 11:31 am

BGtheBrain wrote:Why is Dave allowed to say the catholic church is based on a front for fucking young boys in the face and ass?

How is this not religion bashing under the bigotry rules?

It's been over 2 months since I reported it and I can't get an answer privately other than "it's being looked in to"

Either someone explain how it isn't religIon bashing?
How is this not baiting?
How is it not trolling?

I don't care who answers, I just want an explanation as to how it ok.
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That's a completely different issue than the Tea Party threads (which are the subject of this thread).
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Re: Discussion Moderators: Until When?

Postby pimpdave on Fri May 11, 2012 11:33 am

Yeah, are we just allowed to make threads now that attack individuals on this website? You've banned people for that in the past. They're supposed to complain to you guys, and you guys either do something or completely ignore it, like you do with Night Strike's constant flaming.
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Re: Discussion Moderators: Until When?

Postby pimpdave on Fri May 11, 2012 11:35 am

Also, BGtheBrain, can you actually defend the criticisms of the Catholic church? Because the way you're carrying on, it sounds like you think the child rape is awesome and there should be no reforming of the church to prevent these evils in the future.
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Re: Discussion Moderators: Until When?

Postby thegreekdog on Fri May 11, 2012 11:37 am

pimpdave wrote:Yeah, are we just allowed to make threads now that attack individuals on this website? You've banned people for that in the past. They're supposed to complain to you guys, and you guys either do something or completely ignore it, like you do with Night Strike's constant flaming.


So, just to make sure I understand:

(1) Because you say "Catholic Church" and not "Catholics," you're not guilty of bigotry (or at least trolling)? Is that really your defense?
(2) How is Night Stirke flaming you? You keep indicating this and I've yet to see it. Meanwhile, you've called him a racist multiple times.
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Re: Discussion Moderators: Until When?

Postby pimpdave on Fri May 11, 2012 11:45 am

I've reported the posts.
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Re: Discussion Moderators: Until When?

Postby pimpdave on Fri May 11, 2012 11:46 am

thegreekdog wrote:(1) Because you say "Catholic Church" and not "Catholics," you're not guilty of bigotry?


It's no different from what other people post on this site all the time.
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Re: Discussion Moderators: Until When?

Postby pimpdave on Fri May 11, 2012 1:08 pm

Dukasaur wrote:
pimpdave wrote:So then Night Strike, why are you saying it's bigotry to point out the rampant, church-wide epidemic of child rape that's actively being covered up by the Pope? Shouldn't you be more upset about the fact that it's STILL GOING ON AND ACTIVELY BEING COVERED UP rather than someone mentioning that children are being abused?

Don't try to change the fucking subject. The point is that you are starting with a crime of which possibly 1,000 or 2,000 people are guilty, and using that to slander possibly 500,000,000 or 600,000,000 people who are not guilty of it. Your previously cited posts are pretty unequivocal. You call ALL Catholics pedophiles, not just some of them. That is blatant bigotry; no different than saying that because x number of blacks commit armed robbery, therefore all blacks should be incarcerated.


Nope. What I posted is a criticism of an organization, equivalent to when Phatscotty or Night Strike have raged against the NAACP or the ACLU. They've been doing that for years. It's not against the rules to be critical of an organization.
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