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How would you rate your influence over the US federal government?

 
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The Federal Government - New Q

Postby BigBallinStalin on Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:59 pm

How would you rate your influence over the US federal government?

(if you're not a US citizen, then please post your vote ITT but not in the poll. You can give a reason in your post too!)




Since most within here view their influence on the federal government, then what is to be done?

Continue voting on presidential elections?
How can you maximize your influence on the federal government? Through which means?
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Re: The Federal Government

Postby thegreekdog on Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:35 pm

I voted very weak, obviously. However, I could potentially get to a position where my influence is no longer very weak.
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Re: The Federal Government

Postby BigBallinStalin on Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:33 pm

thegreekdog wrote:I voted very weak, obviously. However, I could potentially get to a position where my influence is no longer very weak.


I'll vote for you, TGD, or maybe front you money to get me what I want through the government.

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Re: The Federal Government

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Sep 14, 2012 1:18 am

I would vote very strong because I know where they're keeping the Arc of the Covenant.

Also, I think TGD has a potentially strong influence, even if it may be unactivated on a daily basis. Short of politicians, CPAs and attorneys have the most potential to force action. A tax attorney? That's basically like having two dicks.
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Re: The Federal Government

Postby xeno on Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:36 am

f*ck american government but f*ck people like you that talk about it incessantly
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Re: The Federal Government

Postby jimboston on Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:08 am

Very Weak.

Maybe there could be some local politician playing here that could vote "Somewhat Weak" at best.

Anyone who could legitimately vote Somewhat Strong or Very Strong would not be playing CC and certainly not have time to post in these Forums.
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Re: The Federal Government

Postby Woodruff on Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:16 am

jimboston wrote:Very Weak.

Maybe there could be some local politician playing here that could vote "Somewhat Weak" at best.

Anyone who could legitimately vote Somewhat Strong or Very Strong would not be playing CC and certainly not have time to post in these Forums.


Phatscotty gets paid to speak by the Tea Party, so perhaps he's the "Somewhat Weak" vote that I see.
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Re: The Federal Government

Postby BigBallinStalin on Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:10 am

xeno wrote:f*ck american government but f*ck people like you that talk about it incessantly


Yeah, turn on, tune in, and drop out. Instead of understanding the role of the most influential organization of the world, let's smoke pot to get dumb and then advocate that people should be talking less about the federal government and more about... what exactly? Some ego-tripping on the interwebz about banging bitches? Awesome.
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Re: The Federal Government

Postby Baron Von PWN on Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:24 am

Maybe the guy who made that video voted somehwat weak.
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Re: The Federal Government

Postby thegreekdog on Fri Sep 14, 2012 12:22 pm

saxitoxin wrote:I would vote very strong because I know where they're keeping the Arc of the Covenant.

Also, I think TGD has a potentially strong influence, even if it may be unactivated on a daily basis. Short of politicians, CPAs and attorneys have the most potential to force action. A tax attorney? That's basically like having two dicks.


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Re: The Federal Government

Postby xeno on Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:37 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:
xeno wrote:f*ck american government but f*ck people like you that talk about it incessantly


Yeah, turn on, tune in, and drop out. Instead of understanding the role of the most influential organization of the world, let's smoke pot to get dumb and then advocate that people should be talking less about the federal government and more about... what exactly? Some ego-tripping on the interwebz about banging bitches? Awesome.

Smoke pot to get dumb? And if you don't think banging bitches is the most important thing than your priorities are out of line not mine. And to be clear I don't even advocate marijuana use all that much here. I participate in the video game discussions because I'm pretty knowledgeable in that realm. Sorry I don't have time to keep up with American politics. I'd rather not focus on how I'm getting fucked in the ass by the guy on the left or right that I didn't put in office. I'm young, there's more pressing things to deal with
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Re: The Federal Government

Postby BigBallinStalin on Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:50 pm

xeno wrote:
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xeno wrote:f*ck american government but f*ck people like you that talk about it incessantly


Yeah, turn on, tune in, and drop out. Instead of understanding the role of the most influential organization of the world, let's smoke pot to get dumb and then advocate that people should be talking less about the federal government and more about... what exactly? Some ego-tripping on the interwebz about banging bitches? Awesome.

Smoke pot to get dumb? And if you don't think banging bitches is the most important thing than your priorities are out of line not mine. And to be clear I don't even advocate marijuana use all that much here. I participate in the video game discussions because I'm pretty knowledgeable in that realm. Sorry I don't have time to keep up with American politics. I'd rather not focus on how I'm getting fucked in the ass by the guy on the left or right that I didn't put in office. I'm young, there's more pressing things to deal with


I'll admit that preferences are subjective, but telling someone 'f*ck you' for being concerned about the weak accountability which citizens have on the federal government while then saying 'lol i dunno and i dunno care, got more important stuff to do!' is a gross display of ignorance.

Your ignorance may be rational in that you don't value the influence of politics as much as immediate gratification, but it's ignorance nonetheless. I'll call it like I see it, so deal with it.
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Re: The Federal Government

Postby xeno on Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:58 pm

You don't need to preach that ignorance bull to me, I'm more informed than a large majority of registered voters.
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Re: The Federal Government - New Q

Postby BigBallinStalin on Sat Sep 15, 2012 12:36 am

Since most within here view their influence on the federal government, then what is to be done?

Continue voting on presidential elections?
How can you maximize your influence on the federal government? Through which means?
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Re: The Federal Government - New Q

Postby PLAYER57832 on Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:36 am

BigBallinStalin wrote:How would you rate your influence over the US federal government?

(if you're not a US citizen, then please post your vote ITT but not in the poll. You can give a reason in your post too!)




Since most within here view their influence on the federal government, then what is to be done?

Continue voting on presidential elections?
How can you maximize your influence on the federal government? Through which means?

Voting is important, but I will borrow an old slogan for the real key-- namely, "think globally, act locally". However, I would change that to "think of the future, act now".

The real truth is that we have seen a SIGNIFICANT loss in power and avenues of dissent in the past 3 decades. We have not re-entered the McCarthy era, but in some ways what we have now is almost more scary. The fringes are allowed, but moderates are consistantly labeled as "fringe" and intensively ridiculed or dismissed.
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Re: The Federal Government - New Q

Postby thegreekdog on Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:43 pm

If I understand your question correctly, you are asking how we can currently maximize our influence.

Here is what I could do, in no particular order:

(1) Form a political action committee and run campaign advertisements for the politicians of my choice.
(2) Vote.
(3) Run for office.
(4) Join a political campaign.
(5) Lobby (or give money to lobbyists).

I've contemplated (4). I've done (2). I may still do (1) if and when I can get some more money. I'm pretty sure I give money to lobbyists (5), albeit indirectly. Ironically, I'm pretty sure my lobbying money is served for cross-purposes. For example, I am a member of the American Bar Association which gives money to Democrats. I'm also a member of a Chamber of Commerce which gives money to Republicans.
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Re: The Federal Government - New Q

Postby Frigidus on Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:49 pm

The best way to get what I want would be to make a shit load of money and spend it on attack ads for politicians I don't like. Sounds easy enough.
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Re: The Federal Government - New Q

Postby BigBallinStalin on Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:15 pm

thegreekdog wrote:If I understand your question correctly, you are asking how we can currently maximize our influence.

Here is what I could do, in no particular order:

(1) Form a political action committee and run campaign advertisements for the politicians of my choice.
(2) Vote.
(3) Run for office.
(4) Join a political campaign.
(5) Lobby (or give money to lobbyists).

I've contemplated (4). I've done (2). I may still do (1) if and when I can get some more money. I'm pretty sure I give money to lobbyists (5), albeit indirectly. Ironically, I'm pretty sure my lobbying money is served for cross-purposes. For example, I am a member of the American Bar Association which gives money to Democrats. I'm also a member of a Chamber of Commerce which gives money to Republicans.


That's good, TGD. Hedge your bets!
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Re: The Federal Government - New Q

Postby fadedpsychosis on Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:31 pm

thegreekdog wrote:If I understand your question correctly, you are asking how we can currently maximize our influence.

Here is what I could do, in no particular order:

(1) Form a political action committee and run campaign advertisements for the politicians of my choice.
(2) Vote.
(3) Run for office.
(4) Join a political campaign.
(5) Lobby (or give money to lobbyists).

I've contemplated (4). I've done (2). I may still do (1) if and when I can get some more money. I'm pretty sure I give money to lobbyists (5), albeit indirectly. Ironically, I'm pretty sure my lobbying money is served for cross-purposes. For example, I am a member of the American Bar Association which gives money to Democrats. I'm also a member of a Chamber of Commerce which gives money to Republicans.

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Re: The Federal Government - New Q

Postby patches70 on Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:40 pm

1. Run for office
2. Win election
3. ???????
4. Profit greatly
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Re: The Federal Government - New Q

Postby notyou2 on Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:25 pm

Frigidus wrote:The best way to get what I want would be to make a shit load of money and spend it on attack ads for politicians I don't like. Sounds easy enough.
That is illegal in Canada during elections. However, it appears at least one and maybe more of the Canadian political parties broke several laws during the last national election.
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Re: The Federal Government - New Q

Postby Woodruff on Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:33 pm

Frigidus wrote:The best way to get what I want would be to make a shit load of money and spend it on attack ads for politicians I don't like. Sounds easy enough.


I don't really think that's the BEST way. But it does sound like the most FUN.
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Re: The Federal Government - New Q

Postby notyou2 on Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:02 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:Since most within here view their influence on the federal government, then what is to be done?

Continue voting on presidential elections?
How can you maximize your influence on the federal government? Through which means?


Post lots of anti-goverment stuff on the net and your influence with them will increase
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Re: The Federal Government - New Q

Postby thegreekdog on Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:37 pm

fadedpsychosis wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:If I understand your question correctly, you are asking how we can currently maximize our influence.

Here is what I could do, in no particular order:

(1) Form a political action committee and run campaign advertisements for the politicians of my choice.
(2) Vote.
(3) Run for office.
(4) Join a political campaign.
(5) Lobby (or give money to lobbyists).

I've contemplated (4). I've done (2). I may still do (1) if and when I can get some more money. I'm pretty sure I give money to lobbyists (5), albeit indirectly. Ironically, I'm pretty sure my lobbying money is served for cross-purposes. For example, I am a member of the American Bar Association which gives money to Democrats. I'm also a member of a Chamber of Commerce which gives money to Republicans.

I give money to banks who profit while screwing me out of my money... so I give money to republicans


Actually, banks also give money to Democrats. So, you're also hedging your bets! :)
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