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AlgyTaylor wrote:Generally I tend to accept my scientific arguments from people who don't believe in fucking fairies.
No offence my god-bothering friends
Backglass wrote:You call this selfish (a typical theists jab) as you assume that without magical gods a person can't give or help his fellow man. Next you will claim that I am deeply unhappy. Been there...heard that.
comic boy wrote:What you people dont seem to be able to grasp is that we dont care a jot about your beliefs,worship God,hamburgers or pixies and we couldnt care less. What we do object to is trying to promote an article of your faith in opposition to a sound scientific theory. If evolution poses difficult questions then that is for you to resolve, dogma has no right to limit human knowledge and progress.
unriggable wrote:Right. Since science is msot often labeled as what scientists do, and 99.9% of scientists do evolution, what is an old s tale doing in our schools, poinoning minds? What do pastors know of science?
Backglass wrote:Such as? I am open to any and all ideas presented with proof and common sense. Got any?
AlgyTaylor wrote:Generally I tend to accept my scientific arguments from people who don't believe in fucking fairies.
No offence my god-bothering friends
natty_dread wrote:Do ponies have sex?
(proud member of the Occasionally Wrongly Banned)Army of GOD wrote:the term heterosexual is offensive. I prefer to be called "normal"
john9blue wrote:The difference between me and you is that I am willing to accept that there are things beyond human control, which humans cannot understand.
john9blue wrote:Your theory that there is no God is just that- a theory. It is not absolute truth, yet you see it as truth. My faith in God is just that- faith. I don't think that there is any way to scientifically prove that God exists, so of course it has to be faith.
john9blue wrote:The purpose of giving and helping fellow man has nothing to do with God. I think people should do it because they realize that all humans are equal. Helping the less fortunate is simply helping humanity.
john9blue wrote:It's the need for proof that limits your mind. And common sense would indicate that some being had to create the universe- after all, you can't make something out of nothing. Common sense, right?
john9blue wrote:I think you guys missed the point. The difference between me and you is that I am willing to accept that there are things beyond human control, which humans cannot understand. Your theory that there is no God is just that- a theory. It is not absolute truth, yet you see it as truth. My faith in God is just that- faith. I don't think that there is any way to scientifically prove that God exists, so of course it has to be faith.
As for comic boy and unriggable, I have to say this: creationism and evolution NEED NOT oppose each other. I won't bother explaining all the theories, (they are all just theories anyway,) but it's not jut a black or white issue.
It's the need for proof that limits your mind. And common sense would indicate that some being had to create the universe- after all, you can't make something out of nothing. Common sense, right?
Frigidus wrote:Here, let's end this argument. Here's everyones main point.
As a (thiest/athiest/agnostic), it seems pretty freaking clear to me that there is (a god/no god/no way we can figure this shit out). I am 100% positive about this. Because I have determined this as absolute fact after (searching my soul/turning this over in my head/turning this over in my head until I have such a terrible headache that I just give up) people that feel something else is true are (narrow-minded/extremely superstitious/claiming to know what they can't), and are pretty much a lost cause. Therefore, we should just mind our own business until someone else tries to force their beliefs on us.
Hooray!
heavycola wrote:Frigidus wrote:Here, let's end this argument. Here's everyones main point.
As a (thiest/athiest/agnostic), it seems pretty freaking clear to me that there is (a god/no god/no way we can figure this shit out). I am 100% positive about this. Because I have determined this as absolute fact after (searching my soul/turning this over in my head/turning this over in my head until I have such a terrible headache that I just give up) people that feel something else is true are (narrow-minded/extremely superstitious/claiming to know what they can't), and are pretty much a lost cause. Therefore, we should just mind our own business until someone else tries to force their beliefs on us.
Hooray!
As a scientologist i find this discriminatory and defmatory. I suggest you find yourself a lawyer.
Frigidus wrote:heavycola wrote:Frigidus wrote:Here, let's end this argument. Here's everyones main point.
As a (thiest/athiest/agnostic), it seems pretty freaking clear to me that there is (a god/no god/no way we can figure this shit out). I am 100% positive about this. Because I have determined this as absolute fact after (searching my soul/turning this over in my head/turning this over in my head until I have such a terrible headache that I just give up) people that feel something else is true are (narrow-minded/extremely superstitious/claiming to know what they can't), and are pretty much a lost cause. Therefore, we should just mind our own business until someone else tries to force their beliefs on us.
Hooray!
As a scientologist i find this discriminatory and defmatory. I suggest you find yourself a lawyer.
Oh, crap! I'm sorry, I added a disclaimer.
Backglass wrote:The truth that there is a magical man in the sky who nobody has ever seen, watching over us?
you assume that without magical gods a person can't give or help his fellow man. Next you will claim that I am deeply unhappy.
Then you believe in Leprechauns? Loch Ness Monsters? The Yeti? Chupacabra?
won't make magical gods real.
does not mean that magical gods roam the heavens.
That has to be one of the most back-assward excuses I have ever heard. It's your belief in legend, lore & stories of old that has already limited yours, my friend.
comic boy wrote:we dont care a jot about your beliefs,worship God,hamburgers or pixies and we couldnt care less.
If I were to believe in all controling invisible guinea pigs
yet those people take just as big a leap of imagination with an arrogant swagger.
bloody silly though to let a hunch rule your life
unriggable wrote:what is an old s tale doing in our schools, poinoning minds? What do pastors know of science?
AlgyTaylor wrote:people who don't believe in fucking fairies.
natty_dread wrote:Do ponies have sex?
(proud member of the Occasionally Wrongly Banned)Army of GOD wrote:the term heterosexual is offensive. I prefer to be called "normal"
suggs wrote:God is equivalent to a magical creature. If he's not very magical, then he's a bit crap, isnt he?
got tonkaed wrote:Though you may be planning to argue on behalf of God using logic or reason, as many have done in part or tried to do, to make that claim going into things without having supported yourself as standing in opposition to it at the outset....is no more a trick than the tactics your opposition uses.
john9blue wrote:Theists cannot prove that there is a God.
natty_dread wrote:Do ponies have sex?
(proud member of the Occasionally Wrongly Banned)Army of GOD wrote:the term heterosexual is offensive. I prefer to be called "normal"
john9blue wrote:Not a fact can be found in this pile of bullshit. Backglass' excessive use of the word 'magic' is proof of his inability to argue properly.
You can't compare God to things like guinea pigs and the Yeti. Those are finite beings which we already have preconceived notions about.
I'm willing to have a discussion, but I find it hard to argue with people who take science as their 'god'.
They get on an intellectual high horse when dealing with people they consider to be 'lowly Christians', and start talking about magical creatures as if they were 6 years old. I know I'm drawing conclusions here, but your attitude is all too obvious. I regret that there aren't very many believers like myself who have both the ability and desire to argue at such great length, but you guys are turning this into a mud-slinging fest.
john9blue wrote:Not a fact can be found in this pile of bullshit. Backglass' excessive use of the word 'magic' is proof of his inability to argue properly.
john9blue wrote:You can't compare God to things like guinea pigs and the Yeti. Those are finite beings which we already have preconceived notions about.
john9blue wrote:I'm willing to have a discussion, but I find it hard to argue with people who take science as their 'god'.
john9blue wrote:They get on an intellectual high horse when dealing with people they consider to be 'lowly Christians', and start talking about magical creatures as if they were 6 years old.
john9blue wrote:I know I'm drawing conclusions here, but your attitude is all too obvious. I regret that there aren't very many believers like myself who have both the ability and desire to argue at such great length, but you guys are turning this into a mud-slinging fest.
Dislike it all you want, that doesn't change the fact that it's entirely appropriate...john9blue wrote:You could call it [God] magic, but that word has a strong connotation of "this isn't real, it's just make believe." That's why I dislike its usage in an argument.
Wayne wrote:Wow, with a voice like that Dancing Mustard must get all the babes!
Garth wrote:Yeah, I bet he's totally studly and buff.
Frigidus wrote:Sometimes I feel bad for the theists...seems like they get ganged up on a lot. Why is there such a large proportion of athiests on CC anyways?
Grooveman2007 wrote:Frigidus wrote:Sometimes I feel bad for the theists...seems like they get ganged up on a lot. Why is there such a large proportion of athiests on CC anyways?
There isn't, it's just that there's a large number of athiest who feel the need to impose their beliefs on others.
Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.
Neoteny wrote:Grooveman2007 wrote:Frigidus wrote:Sometimes I feel bad for the theists...seems like they get ganged up on a lot. Why is there such a large proportion of athiests on CC anyways?
There isn't, it's just that there's a large number of athiest who feel the need to impose their beliefs on others.
It's retaliation from having to deal with theist shit everywhere else.
Grooveman2007 wrote:Neoteny wrote:Grooveman2007 wrote:Frigidus wrote:Sometimes I feel bad for the theists...seems like they get ganged up on a lot. Why is there such a large proportion of athiests on CC anyways?
There isn't, it's just that there's a large number of athiest who feel the need to impose their beliefs on others.
It's retaliation from having to deal with theist shit everywhere else.
Give me three examples of rampant "theist shit" in public domain.
Also, why is someone's beliefs considered shit if you don't agree with it?
Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.
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