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Postby kwanton on Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:21 pm

Thanks for the vote of confidence?

FOS Talapus

Clive is acting a little off but there's no reason to be that harsh :lol:
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Postby nagerous on Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:30 pm

I understand Kwan's argument, particularly because I've also suffered from the same problems and haven't been able to post in any of my games recently due to too many things going on, social and work wise . See, Sierra this is where metagaming can come in handy, sure we can lynch the submariners and idiots why not, but it will never produce anything really solid in regards to leads. The problem is this game will keep going in the cycle of vote, claim, unvote, vote , claim, unvote. As for me, I really don't have any leads now, I can't see many of the experienced players making major slip-ups we'll just have to continue what we're doing I guess.
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Postby mandalorian2298 on Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:31 pm

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F1fth wrote:So, guys, we going to bandwagon every person until the entire town has claimed? I think its ridiculous that Koesen is leading the Spanish Inquisition and people are just keeping quiet no matter how many times he's wrong.

I was waiting to see how the diddle wagon turned out, but as soon as he claimed Koesie just started another wagon. Even if he's town, (which I seriously doubt at this point), he's still causing more harm than good.

Vote Koesen
Whoo! Another bandwagon to jump! but, seriously now... that makes a lot of sense. Unfortuantely it's the same reason we lynched Clive (1.0). I don't know if following this kind of logic is anymore helpful... Oh well!
unvote vote koesen


You are jumping on a bandwagon?! :shock:

Whoa borwng, please don't shock me like that! :roll: :lol:


I have a question about the show. Is that Barnaum (or something like that) guys a white hat or is he Swearigan's bitch too? Because then it could be a Mafia Spy.

Also, if we lynch Diddle, he would veto his lynch, so it would be less harmfull and it would confirm his role, cocksuckers.
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Postby nagerous on Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:32 pm

Mayors can normally not veto their own lynch.
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Postby mandalorian2298 on Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:35 pm

nagerous wrote:Mayors can normally not veto their own lynch.


Kill-joy. :P

unvote vote browng for his latest bandwagoning. (Since you cocksuckers haven't believed that his all previous bandwagonings were cause enough to lynch him).
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Postby Anarkistsdream on Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:36 pm

ExplainThis wrote:
Talapus wrote:Now watch him run back in here with some BS defense and arguement as to why he is playing that way. It certainly didn't save him day one and he got voted for doing the same type of things. Shape up Clve...


You seem to miss that he was town day1...

I still think diddles scum but my votes useless.

Pretty sure kwan is town at this point.

Still don't like ad or fith.


Wait... Why is your vote useless?
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Postby ExplainThis on Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:42 pm

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Talapus wrote:Now watch him run back in here with some BS defense and arguement as to why he is playing that way. It certainly didn't save him day one and he got voted for doing the same type of things. Shape up Clve...


You seem to miss that he was town day1...

I still think diddles scum but my votes useless.

Pretty sure kwan is town at this point.

Still don't like ad or fith.


Wait... Why is your vote useless?


Its not really. It has the same technical impact as anyone elses, but it isn't very good for applying pressure since it doesn't count till its the hammer.
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Postby nagerous on Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:42 pm

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Postby ExplainThis on Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:45 pm

nagerous wrote:???
I'm an actor. (I replaced fircoal remember?) My vote doesn't work unless its the hammer. Seeing as no votes do anything until there is a hammer this means my vote has the same technical worth as anyones, but since it doesn't count till its the hammer its shitty for showing who I'm seriously attacking and thus bad for applying pressure.
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Postby Anarkistsdream on Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:47 pm

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nagerous wrote:???
I'm an actor. (I replaced fircoal remember?) My vote doesn't work unless its the hammer. Seeing as no votes do anything until there is a hammer this means my vote has the same technical worth as anyones, but since it doesn't count till its the hammer its shitty for showing who I'm seriously attacking and thus bad for applying pressure.


Ahhhh, it counts. No worries. Just has to be well-timed. :lol: 8)
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Postby kwanton on Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:48 pm

He's trying to say that his vote is useless sincea single vote won't put mch pressure on a person. At least not enough to get any leads.

I disagree however, since it seems any vote can start an easy bandwagon :roll:

As far as diddle goes, I believe his claim but the mayor role is utterly useless. The only thing its power is good for is screwing with the town. Stopping a lynch that the town has taken all day to reach only stops us from getting leads. In fact I'm surprised the mayor wasn't made to be an overpowered scum role.

I am not saying lynch him, just warning diddle not to use his power unless you are 100% sure that the person being lynched is town.
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Postby kwanton on Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:49 pm

ohhhh.....I hate being fastposted...
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Postby ExplainThis on Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:49 pm

kwanton wrote:He's trying to say that his vote is useless sincea single vote won't put mch pressure on a person. At least not enough to get any leads.



Not what I meant at all so don't speak for me. kthxbye.
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Postby gimpyThewonder on Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:00 pm

and in other news...

cena-rules is back, re-taking his role from ga7 who is going on vacation. give him a warm welcome back
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Postby Anarkistsdream on Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:00 pm

ExplainThis wrote:
kwanton wrote:He's trying to say that his vote is useless sincea single vote won't put mch pressure on a person. At least not enough to get any leads.



Not what I meant at all so don't speak for me. kthxbye.


Well then how about you actually participate?

So far, I see no reason not just to vote you because you aren't playing.
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Postby kwanton on Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:10 pm

me or him?
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Postby Anarkistsdream on Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:14 pm

kwanton wrote:me or him?


The person quoted... DEEEEEEEEERRRRR.

:wink: :wink: :wink:
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Postby ExplainThis on Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:15 pm

kwanton wrote:me or him?


He quoted me yet as far as I can tell Ive been pretty active. I mean I work from 7-4 my time which seems to be when this is most active, but in my free time I post as much as I can.
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Postby kwanton on Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:16 pm

haha. as far as I can tell you coulda been talking to both of us 8)
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Postby Talapus on Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:37 pm

kwanton wrote:Thanks for the vote of confidence?

FOS Talapus

Clive is acting a little off but there's no reason to be that harsh :lol:



Harsh and realistic/truthful are entirely different things. I'll point out bad mistakes and bad playing whenever I so choose...So :P . Anway, I know you've been busy, so have I. But, I figured since you asked so nicely why I was harsh( :roll: :D ) I'd spell it out for you. Ready? Here it goes:


Clive wrote:You lynched your priest. You are all going to hell.


Clive wrote:Clive should be allowed back.


Clive wrote:Talapus smells.


Clive wrote:Clive agrees with Koesen.


Clive wrote:I'll replace! :)

(Screw you Sierra, you're an idiot)


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Sierra_Leon wrote:Sorry, didn't mean to insult you. I was just thinking of the way you played in this game when I posted that. I remember you being decent in other games. Still a no on the replace though.


How did I play badly? I thought I played well. I saved Fircoals lynch when I could confirm he was innocent, without a counter-claim. And with a role like that there's no point not countering.



Now, if you look at it, this was all spam during day two before he was ever allowed back. He was dead, he needs to shutup. Also, if he wanted to replace so badly, why not pm gimpy? He whined about how he didn't play badly, and when he was allowed back in, this is what he did:

Clive wrote:W00t i'm back :D

I'm liking what's been said about Crab...vote Crab


Ok, he doesn't really say what he liked, but it didn't matter because he voted the wrong way so it didn't count. Then he goes and votes Kwanton?!? Why?!?

Clive wrote:vote kwanton

Forgot colour in my other one lol..


Clive wrote:unvote vote diddle


Clive wrote:unvote vote fifth


And yes, the reasons for all those other votes just compelled me to believe that Clive was an awesome mafia player and he fully deserved to continue playing after he was allowed back in :roll: :roll: Thus, he earned my vote again. Noob or not, he should have a better clue how to play after he was allowed back....I guess some people just don't care though :?
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Postby ExplainThis on Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:41 pm

Talapus wrote:
kwanton wrote:Thanks for the vote of confidence?

FOS Talapus

Clive is acting a little off but there's no reason to be that harsh :lol:



Harsh and realistic/truthful are entirely different things. I'll point out bad mistakes and bad playing whenever I so choose...So :P . Anway, I know you've been busy, so have I. But, I figured since you asked so nicely why I was harsh( :roll: :D ) I'd spell it out for you. Ready? Here it goes:


Clive wrote:You lynched your priest. You are all going to hell.


Clive wrote:Clive should be allowed back.


Clive wrote:Talapus smells.


Clive wrote:Clive agrees with Koesen.


Clive wrote:I'll replace! :)

(Screw you Sierra, you're an idiot)


Clive wrote:
Sierra_Leon wrote:Sorry, didn't mean to insult you. I was just thinking of the way you played in this game when I posted that. I remember you being decent in other games. Still a no on the replace though.


How did I play badly? I thought I played well. I saved Fircoals lynch when I could confirm he was innocent, without a counter-claim. And with a role like that there's no point not countering.



Now, if you look at it, this was all spam during day two before he was ever allowed back. He was dead, he needs to shutup. Also, if he wanted to replace so badly, why not pm gimpy? He whined about how he didn't play badly, and when he was allowed back in, this is what he did:

Clive wrote:W00t i'm back :D

I'm liking what's been said about Crab...vote Crab


Ok, he doesn't really say what he liked, but it didn't matter because he voted the wrong way so it didn't count. Then he goes and votes Kwanton?!? Why?!?

Clive wrote:vote kwanton

Forgot colour in my other one lol..


Clive wrote:unvote vote diddle


Clive wrote:unvote vote fifth


And yes, the reasons for all those other votes just compelled me to believe that Clive was an awesome mafia player and he fully deserved to continue playing after he was allowed back in :roll: :roll: Thus, he earned my vote again. Noob or not, he should have a better clue how to play after he was allowed back....I guess some people just don't care though :?


Points to catch the mafia not teach him how to play.
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Postby Anarkistsdream on Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:48 pm

Talapus, that was a great post. Very valid points.

I still don't want to lynch him, though, even if he is stupid. Because I don't honestly think he is scum.
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Postby kwanton on Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:13 pm

Hrm well he was just spamming really. It's nothing we haven't seen before. OK you were justified in pointing it out and internet-yelling at him but I don't think we should lynch him.

IMO lynching someone for a stupid reason like spamming or submarining :-^ is just as good as no lynching. More often than not it'll actually help the scum.
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Postby pancakemix on Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:40 pm

:evil: I don't like having to read this much.

gimpyThewonder wrote:the double f1fth has already been explained by me as a mistake (and i wonder why people dropped out :evil: )


As long as it's explained.

oops... I didn't even see him on the list... :oops:
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Either you're talking about yourself as another person or you missed my point. I'm not talking about the mod error, I'm saying YOU are accusing yourself of being scum. Sorry if you were talking about yourself as another person, but either way, you don't look too good right now.

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pancakemix wrote:clive (13) - f1fth, lalaland, kwanton, talapus, LSU, crab*, diddle, browng, kalish/SL, willis, Iliad, skoffin, f1fth

skoffin (9 ) - koesen, skoffin, serbia, Voldemort, Roger Dodger, clive, russianfire, nagerous, crab*


Just to make an observation as a whole, Skoffin is the only person on both bandwagons. :-k

* O RLY?
It's ok Pancake, you just lost your touch a bit :lol:


Just rusty is all. It HAS been a while since we used to duel with that kind of analyzing.

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diddle wrote:I think I'm close to a lynch, so here's my claim. I am E.B Farnum (mayor). Obviously a pro-town role, so a waste of a lynch.


Does it matter whether or not I'm an important character. I've told you my role so its up to you to decide whether or not you want to lynch me.


You obviously don't care whether or not you get lynched. If you don't want to play then leave, unless you feel sorry for gimpy, in which case I kindly ask the doctor to abandon this poor soul.

Talapus wrote:Bla Bla Bla Lynch Clive he's a bandwagoner


Sorry about abridging you post, it was too long to quote. Clive is just an annoying n00b, so I won't waste my time with him. If no one looks extremely scummy and he's still alive, then we can take care of him, but if we lynch him now and he's town we're just giving the scum another point to chalk up.

That's all I've got to say for now. If I have time tomorrow and don't spend it goofing off I'll probably post more, but I tend to goof off, so we'll see then.
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Postby Iliad on Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:24 am

f*ck it seems our days will never end. We don't lynch submariners because that is pointless. We don't lynch noobs because that's pointless. How the f*ck are we going to lynch someone? EVER?

It seems our days are an endless string of bandwagon to -1, claim, everyone unvotes, bandwagon, claim, unvote etc.

Now to what I want to say:

Clive-obviously a noob just asking for a lynch. He's going ot be especially annoying later on because the noob mark might save him. Has anyone thought about if a noob is playing scum and is playing it badly and gets bandwagon he could be let off the hook for being nooby? Just think about that.


Kwan-ever heard of the boy who cried wolf? If you were not infamous for submarining in games, if you didn't do it on a regular basis then when something does come up and you can't post don't come crying if we lynch you or don't believe you. If submarining is your strategy you gotta know that if something real comes up you might be in trouble because we might just assume that you are submarining.




And now I will try to re-read to find interesting information but most importantly I wanna check what Koesen has said cause there's a vibe there.
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