Best band of the 90's

by **KiwiTaker** on Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:49 pm

They were at the Big Day Out this yeah. It was awesome. The entire ground was a mosh pit when they were playing. Bout 40,000 people singing along to Killing in the Name of.

by **InkL0sed** on Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:51 pm

It's sad that The Offspring got a vote, but not NIN.

by **suggs** on Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:59 pm

KiwiTaker wrote:They were at the Big Day Out this yeah. It was awesome. The entire ground was a mosh pit when they were playing. Bout 40,000 people singing along to Killing in the Name of.

f*ck YOU I WONT DO WHAT YOU TELL ME!

by **khazalid** on Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:00 pm

reminisco wrote:for the record, i was one of the 2 to vote for Smashing Pumpkins.

i wonder who the other was...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-t140aQ8qk

my real vote goes to 'other' but rh and sp were the pick of the bunch.

by **Colossus** on Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:02 pm

It's a crying shame that the pumpkins have come back with a darcy look-alike. None could lay down the bass lines that she did. *shakes head*

by **DAZMCFC** on Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:02 pm

GNR are totally shit. it is a load of bollocks. :evil:

by **khazalid** on Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:04 pm

Colossus wrote:It's a crying shame that the pumpkins have come back with a darcy look-alike. None could lay down the bass lines that she did. *shakes head*

its a crying shame that billy corgan wasnt run over by a truck prior to 'zwan'

by **reminisco** on Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:41 pm

suggs wrote:
KiwiTaker wrote:They were at the Big Day Out this yeah. It was awesome. The entire ground was a mosh pit when they were playing. Bout 40,000 people singing along to Killing in the Name of.

f*ck YOU I WONT DO WHAT YOU TELL ME!

you know, the most violent mosh pit i was ever in was during the Rage show at Lollapalooza 93.

fucking amazing.

that was the only time i ever saw them...

by **reminisco** on Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:48 pm

khazalid wrote:
Colossus wrote:It's a crying shame that the pumpkins have come back with a darcy look-alike. None could lay down the bass lines that she did. *shakes head*

its a crying shame that billy corgan wasnt run over by a truck prior to 'zwan'

dude, i don't know. 'Doomsday Clock' was a really solid track. and i liked 'Bring the Light' off of Zeitgeist as well. yeah, i think the record was really, REALLY weak without the other two original members, but the new line-up is good, and i have a lot of hope in the band gelling as a cohesive unit and putting out some good music.

also good from the new stuff, check out "Pox" off the newly released 'American Gothic' EP. you can buy it internationally, but in the US, you have to get it off iTunes. also, 'Stellar', one of the b-sides from Zeitgeist hearkens back to their glory days of edgy rock and roll.

don't get me wrong, i don't expect the Pumpkins to ever be relevant again, but to an aging die-hard fan like myself, i'm just glad to have them back. to have the ability to see them in concert. (and i DID. 3 fucking times on the most recent tour, at 3 of the 4 shows they played in Philly -- and by the way, they played more dates in Philly than any other city -- this town loves the Pumpkins, i can surely say -- and Billy & Co. put on a show for the FANS man, for real)

also, for the record, Zwan did suck, but i saw them play an unannounced show at The Khyber (a small rock bar in Philly) before the album came out, and they sounded a hell of a lot better when they were just playing to have fun, rather than trying to sell records.

and his solo album had about 3 good songs on it.

that is all.

and please, no one bother trying to flame me over the Pumpkins. i just won't respond. they mean too much to me to try and argue with people who just don't "get it". i'm sure the huge Morrissey fan on CC can relate. you either "get it" or you don't. and there's no arguing the point.

by **Colossus** on Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:16 am

There was some decent stuff on the solo album, but none of the stuff since before zwan has really done it for me. I'll check out the stuff you recommend, but man nothing comes close to the early stuff. Gish is like musical crack, seriously. I've been thinking about it, and I really do think that the pumpkins are my favorite all-time band. There is a song for every mood, event, emotion. The musical and lyrical expression is untouchable by any other band I've ever heard. You're right, remi....people either get it or they don't. All I know is that there are a few pumpkins songs that can ALWAYS make me feel awesome. Mayonnaise, The Everlasting Gaze, and Bury Me, to name a few.

I love the Chili Peppers, and I'm a big Soundgarden/Audioslave fan, but nothing touches the pumpkins.

by **reminisco** on Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:32 am

Colossus wrote:There was some decent stuff on the solo album, but none of the stuff since before zwan has really done it for me. I'll check out the stuff you recommend, but man nothing comes close to the early stuff. Gish is like musical crack, seriously. I've been thinking about it, and I really do think that the pumpkins are my favorite all-time band. There is a song for every mood, event, emotion. The musical and lyrical expression is untouchable by any other band I've ever heard. You're right, remi....people either get it or they don't. All I know is that there are a few pumpkins songs that can ALWAYS make me feel awesome. Mayonnaise, The Everlasting Gaze, and Bury Me, to name a few.

I love the Chili Peppers, and I'm a big Soundgarden/Audioslave fan, but nothing touches the pumpkins.

WORD, bro. straight up the most complicated songs and arrangements are on Gish. and songs like Geek U.S.A., Thru the Eyes of Ruby, Bury Me, Siva, To Sheila and Dross will always haunt me.

and yeah, Pumpkins are my all time favorite, no doubt. Bury Me was actually the first Pumpkins song I ever heard. the first time i saw them was on the Lollapalooza 94 tour.

i had bought tix cause Nirvana was supposed to be headlining. but Kurt went and did what he did, and so Billy and the Pumpkins stepped up. it was at that show, during Geek USA, that i decided they were absolutely supplanting Nirvana as my favourite band.

i already had Gish, but didn't really get it. then i did.

oh, and i even have one of the old school t-shirts, from the Gish tour... says "attitude is altitude" on the back with a small SP sacred heart on the front (like the back of the Gish case -- not like the SP heart that started showing up around Siamese Dream)

by **Colossus** on Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:03 am

I never got to see them live. I didn't really catch on to them until Melancholy, though I had Siamese Dream. My appreciation of them certainly had to evolve. It was greatly aided by Ava Adore, actually. Since then, I sort of woke up to the awesomeness of their early stuff. I really dig both MACHINA albums, too. Can't really say that any of their stuff was weak, unlike most 90's bands who almost all had at least one crap album. I will have to check out the new album. I've been meaning to, but after I bought the zwan album, I've been a bit hesitant to spend my money on Billy's subsequent efforts....God, what a shit album that was.

by **InkL0sed** on Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:08 am

This thread is great if only because now I have a ton of new songs to get

by **reminisco** on Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:25 am

InkL0sed wrote:This thread is great if only because now I have a ton of new songs to get

hey, if you want some free, legal Pumpkins, you can download Machina II here:

http://www.smashingpumpkins.com/audio

they released that album back in 2000, or 2001... for free. WELL before Radiohead pulled a stunt like that, the Pumpkins did it first.

there's some good live stuff up there too. anything uploaded by Smashing Pumpkins Media Militia is going to be a high quality copy from the soundboards.

by **InkL0sed** on Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:32 am

reminisco wrote:
InkL0sed wrote:This thread is great if only because now I have a ton of new songs to get

hey, if you want some free, legal Pumpkins, you can download Machina II here:

http://www.smashingpumpkins.com/audio

they released that album back in 2000, or 2001... for free. WELL before Radiohead pulled a stunt like that, the Pumpkins did it first.

there's some good live stuff up there too. anything uploaded by Smashing Pumpkins Media Militia is going to be a high quality copy from the soundboards.

Which songs do you suggest? I'd rather not download a bunch of random songs and hope they're good...

by **reminisco** on Sat Mar 08, 2008 12:05 pm

InkL0sed wrote:Which songs do you suggest? I'd rather not download a bunch of random songs and hope they're good...

well, download all of Machina II. that's a full album's worth of material. you can make up your own mind. the tracks that stick for me on that album are:

(these all have 5 stars in my iTunes)
Dross
Cash Car Star /version 1
In My Body
Home
Vanity
Speed Kills

(these all have 4 stars in my iTunes)
Lucky 13
Saturnine
Let Me Give the World To You
Slow Dawn
White Spyder
La Deux Machina
Atom Bomb

as for the live stuff, you kind of have to make up your own mind. it helps if you're familiar with the studio material first.

check out Gossamer.. it's a new song, played only on the road. you can get it from the Paris concert in 2007. long as hell, but really, really good.

by **muy_thaiguy** on Sat Mar 08, 2008 1:53 pm

Which songs do you suggest? I'd rather not download a bunch of random songs and hope they're good...

Songs of the 90s...

Who Let the Dogs Out
I'm Blue

You know, I just realized that most of the music I listened to then was either N*Sync or Backstreet Boys, or 50s Rock. I feel a bit depressed right now.

by **SolidLuigi** on Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:35 pm

muy_thaiguy wrote:
Which songs do you suggest? I'd rather not download a bunch of random songs and hope they're good...
Songs of the 90s...

Who Let the Dogs Out
I'm Blue

You know, I just realized that most of the music I listened to then was either N*Sync or Backstreet Boys, or 50s Rock. I feel a bit depressed right now.

hahaha, dont forget "Whoop there it is" and "Macarena"

by **muy_thaiguy** on Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:37 pm

SolidLuigi wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
Which songs do you suggest? I'd rather not download a bunch of random songs and hope they're good...
Songs of the 90s...

Who Let the Dogs Out
I'm Blue

You know, I just realized that most of the music I listened to then was either N*Sync or Backstreet Boys, or 50s Rock. I feel a bit depressed right now.

hahaha, dont forget "Whoop there it is" and "Macarena"

by **riggable** on Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:43 pm

I love how people are like "OH MY GOD THE 90s MUSIC SUCKED!!!"

when the music from 2000 is SO much worse...

lets go listen to some Fallout Boy and Avenged Sevenfold guys...

:roll:

by **william18** on Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:45 pm

riggable wrote:I love how people are like "OH MY GOD THE 90s MUSIC SUCKED!!!"

when the music from 2000 is SO much worse...

lets go listen to some Fallout Boy and Avenged Sevenfold guys...

1990's had probably the best rap for all those rap fans.

by **strike wolf** on Sun Mar 09, 2008 2:42 am

I remember when I was 9 and I actually thought that groups like the Backstreet Boys and N*sync. Thank god that phase didn't stick.

by **Skittles!** on Sun Mar 09, 2008 2:45 am

riggable wrote:I love how people are like "OH MY GOD THE 90s MUSIC SUCKED!!!"

when the music from 2000 is SO much worse...

lets go listen to some Fallout Boy and Avenged Sevenfold guys...

Mainstream music is so much worse, yes. but I think 90's and underground music these days are on equal terms. Mainstream is just shit.