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Re: Classic Map Touch-Up

Postby luv2tri2 on Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:40 pm

Somebody always has to screw around with a good thing. Go mess around with the lesser played maps and quit screwing up a good thing.......
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Re: Classic Map Touch-Up

Postby crparker on Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:42 pm

Not a fan of this change. not a fan of the circles at all. I wonder if this is a case of the squeeky wheel getting the greese and the other 90% of users being screwed.
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Re: Classic Map Touch-Up

Postby Ruben Cassar on Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:44 pm

Ok I am colour blind and the new classic is much much harder to read. I don't know what's wrong exactly. The changes are minor but somehow the old version was much more legible.

Either something needs to be done or please bring back the old one. At least put an option where one can *always* select the classic he wants. This map is too important to be messed with.
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Re: Classic Map Touch-Up

Postby Gustaf Wasa on Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:45 pm

The light circles. Change.
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Re: Classic Map Touch-Up

Postby Ruben Cassar on Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:47 pm

Gustaf Wasa wrote:The light circles. Change.


Actually yes...I think those might be the problem! Hadn't noticed before.
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Re: Classic Map Touch-Up

Postby laddida on Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:47 pm

It is very strange the change to this map and I HATE IT! for some reason I cant even concentrate Nore study this map any more its hurts the eyes I want the old version back or I will refuse to play classic ever again. I agree with ruben if your gonna stick with this change, make an option to revert back to the old way.
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Re: Classic Map Touch-Up

Postby Itrade on Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:48 pm

I'm just going to prove how old-school I am by saying I liked the old Classic better.

It's the circles, really.
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Re: Classic Map Touch-Up

Postby UHshepp on Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:50 pm

Hey guys i know yall are just trying to do improvements that you think look good, but unfortunately, me and a lot of people agree, the bubbles aren't the best move. The colors look fine, but the bubbles around the army #'s are killing me. I appreciate the effort, but if you can either turn in back or make it optional that would be awesome. I think you should put up a vote on this forum thread to see where most stand.
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Re: Classic Map Touch-Up

Postby Top Dog on Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:50 pm

don't like it...
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Re: Classic Map Touch-Up

Postby what,me worry? on Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:51 pm

Horrible. I have wear my shades to look at it.


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Re: Classic Map Touch-Up

Postby Incandenza on Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:52 pm

Like many others here, I'm not a fan of the new classic. The army circles, as I posted in some game chat or another, look like flying saucers hovering over the world's countries. They're very distracting, as the brightest and most eye-catching element of the map now is also the least relevant to strategy.

And for those who say "shoulda checked out the thread in the foundry", I did check out the thread in the foundry. That's probably my favorite forum on the site, and while I don't post super often, I'm there almost every day. And the classic touch-up thread was rather disappointing: interest in the touch-up seemed lukewarm, quench came after only 10 or so pages, and very much of the process seemed to come by administrative or artistic fiat. There were several "lack doesn't want this" or "the artist decided on this" comments that pretty much killed the thread for me, especially after the boundless horror and head-clutching frustration of the British Isles revamp thread (which is another clusterfuck coming soon to your 'join a game' page). It never felt like anything approaching a community-vetted effort.

More to the point, it would've been surpassingly easy to generate more commentary on the classic touch-up through the use of a banner or something. One of the main concerns with the foundry is attracting traffic, and while I don't think that a site-wide announcement should be made about any old map, this is the signature map of the site we're talking about here. So for people to say "shoulda looked at the foundry", especially if they're people that know perfectly well that 98% of the players on this site never visit the foundry... well that's just damn disingenuous.
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Re: Classic Map Touch-Up

Postby Zski2003 on Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:53 pm

if its not broke dont fix it, i hope to return to old background.
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Re: Classic Map Touch-Up

Postby japan_jeff on Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:55 pm

cramill wrote:I think the changes are fine. I wonder how many people would have complained if there wasn't an announcement that everyone saw that there was a change to the classic map. Some people (definitely not all) may not have noticed.


would of been very hard NOT to notice. the circles behind the numbers, what ever you want to call them make it damn near impossible to read. like a lot of other folks said, either get rid of them, or give us the option to get rid of them, OR have two classic maps, the real classic and this goat rope. it just out and out sucks!
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Re: Classic Map Touch-Up

Postby cmckinney on Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:59 pm

please...bring back the classic classic
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Re: Classic Map Touch-Up

Postby Riskmaster101 on Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:02 pm

THis sucks! Change it back or ill like never play this map again!
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Re: Classic Map Touch-Up

Postby Hsur on Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:08 pm

I think the circles are a little to bright. They should be almost invisible.
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Re: Classic Map Touch-Up

Postby Hells Heleons on Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:08 pm

terrible change, messed up my favorite board , please bring back the old map, dont change whats not broken
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Re: Classic Map Touch-Up

Postby mike60126 on Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:10 pm

Optional for the white circles. The rest is fine. Please remove the white circles or make it optional. This hurts my eyes and is less fun. Thanks.
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Re: Classic Map Touch-Up

Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:10 pm

We'll look into some alterations.

And again, I'd like to welcome all new posters to the Forum board! Come by the Map Foundry, and give us some feedback on the maps in production.


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Re: Classic Map Touch-Up

Postby Gold Knight on Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:11 pm

pzaviski2003 wrote:if its not broke dont fix it, i hope to return to old background.


Gotta agree with this, the majority of the players on this site had no complaints about this map, so why change it? Because a few people have to use telescopes to see their computer screen shouldnt be a reason why we should change the entire outlook of the map.

The circles are the overwhelming problem, but the entire map really took the nosedive. For the "not being able to see the colors" situation, isnt that why we added the color code option to the map? Just doesnt make sense... :(
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Re: Classic Map Touch-Up

Postby zsp on Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:15 pm

The classic map ugrade, in my opinion, is not really an upgrade at all. It's distracting and just plain annoying to look at. It should either be deleted or made optional...
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Re: Classic Map Touch-Up

Postby manymore on Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:15 pm

I hate this please change this new map thing.
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Re: Classic Map Touch-Up

Postby the_lion on Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:17 pm

I hate it. I think it looks like vomit.
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Re: Classic Map Touch-Up

Postby flexmaster33 on Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:17 pm

works for me...nothing seems that drastic, which is great for Classic. Nice upgrade. I don't get all the "Sky is falling" comments in here.
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Re: Classic Map Touch-Up

Postby thegeneralpublic on Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:17 pm

Hsur wrote:I think the circles are a little to bright. They should be almost invisible.

The problem with doing this is that if there are blue armies on Europe or something similar, it becomes very hard to read the numbers. Brighter circles, while some people may not find them as aesthetically pleasing, ensure that no mistakes are made because of legibility.
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