vtmarik wrote:Knight of Orient wrote:well, they dont believe in praying in tounges, and also, very importantly, dont believe Jesus has come yet.
No, they acknowledge that Jesus was around. They just don't believe that he is the messiah.
I tend to agree with them. Why? Well, not only is Christianity a splinter off of Judaism (which is evidenced by the presence of the Old Testament in the Bible), but it is also the more believable of the two.
Plus there's this little
list that, while it doesn't prove anything outright, raises some questions that some might find interesting.
That "list" is laughable. I do not have the time or patience to refute the whole list. But I'll try to respond to some proving the "list's" unfactual basis.
Jesus in John 14:12 & Mark 16:17-18 said: "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth in me, the works that I do shall he also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father." This implies that Jesus’ true followers should be able to routinely perform the following tricks: 1) cast out devils, 2) speak in tongues, 3) take up serpents, 4) drink poisons without harm, and 5) cure the sick by touching them and MANY other of Jesus’ "works". Curiously I have yet to see a Christian that can do any of the above on demand.
1. "cast out devils" or demons. Followers of Christ have done this. (Although the skeptic will deny it)
2. "speak in tounges" you can hear this every Sunday morning at my church.
3. "Take up serpants" although I personally am not familiar with this, I remember seeing this exact thing on a news program (20/20 or something) Where these people handled snakes in their services.
4."drink poisons without harm" I don't remember this in scripture. Regardless I am unfamilar with anyone who has done this.
5. "cure the sick by touching them" Happens all the time (again the skeptic will say things like "It was a set up or show" )
In John 14:13-14 Jesus stated: "And whatsoever ye ask in my name I do, that the Father may be glorified in the son. If ye ask any thing in my name, I will do it." In reality, millions of people have made millions of requests in Jesus’ name and failed to receive satisfaction. This promise or prophecy has failed completely.
LOL This is complete ignorance of scripture. Anything that is asked for in Jesus' name:
a) Prayer must be made by a believer (He does not hear the prayers of anyone else)
b) The prayer request must be IN GOD'S WILL. (We cannot pray for a million dollars and expect God to give it to us....unless it is in His will to do so)
Someone else want to continue picking apart the "list". Be my guest.
