account sitting issues..new rule? <updated - see 1st post>

by **lord voldemort** on Mon May 19, 2008 10:24 pm

do it lack...

by **Robinette** on Mon May 19, 2008 11:28 pm

Robinette wrote:Phffft... cheaters (preceived or real) are rejoicing too...
well i can tell you one thing for certain...

you won't see ME joining ANY babysitting team games, sequential OR freestyle...
no sir... not me!

I mean it guys... not one, no no no, not one team game.........

by **owenshooter** on Mon May 19, 2008 11:59 pm

Robinette wrote:I mean it guys... not one, no no no, not one team game.........

well, it will probably have the same result as when you boycotted playing the new classic map... how is that going for you? and they are going to make a change, they are just going to make it more definitive...-0

by **jiminski** on Tue May 20, 2008 12:21 am

owenshooter wrote:
Robinette wrote:I mean it guys... not one, no no no, not one team game.........

well, it will probably have the same result as when you boycotted playing the new classic map... how is that going for you? and they are going to make a change, they are just going to make it more definitive...-0

I think she was pulling our zucchinis Owen ..Nette does not play Team games ^^

by **Robinette** on Tue May 20, 2008 12:34 am

jiminski wrote:
owenshooter wrote:
Robinette wrote:I mean it guys... not one, no no no, not one team game.........

well, it will probably have the same result as when you boycotted playing the new classic map... how is that going for you? and they are going to make a change, they are just going to make it more definitive...-0

I think she was pulling our zucchinis Owen ..Nette does not play Team games ^^

heehee

by **owenshooter** on Tue May 20, 2008 12:41 am

Robinette wrote:
jiminski wrote:I think she was pulling our zucchinis Owen ..Nette does not play Team games ^^

heehee

My Zucchini brings Robinette to the yard, and she's like, it's better than yours!!
Damn right it's better than yours, I can teach you, But I have to charge!!!-0

by **Robinette** on Tue May 20, 2008 12:58 am

Robinette wrote:
jiminski wrote:
owenshooter wrote:
Robinette wrote:I mean it guys... not one, no no no, not one team game.........

well, it will probably have the same result as when you boycotted playing the new classic map... how is that going for you? and they are going to make a change, they are just going to make it more definitive...-0

I think she was pulling our zucchinis Owen ..Nette does not play Team games ^^

heehee

gotcha.......... heheheeeheheeehehheee

by **Twill** on Tue May 20, 2008 2:37 pm

The minute the controversy ends, you guys take it off topic :roll:

trust you be the one doing it too, Owen

OK, thread unstickied...do keep it on topic though or I will have to lockerify it.

Have a good one
Twill

by **bob72** on Tue May 20, 2008 3:32 pm

By introducing the doubles babysitting rule you effectively cut out a whole segment of your playing market.

I play with a friend at doubles but we are both professional business men who have to travel.

With this rule you wipe out our doubles games, as we cannot know in advance how long any given doubles game is going to last. You can say that at least once per month I'll have to babysit for him and vice versa. Ususally for only 2 nights (thus only 1 round possibly 2)

I can't see the harm in me taking turns for him but your site and your rules and there must be loads of documented abuse of babysitting for you to consider such changes which stop legit players who also have a life

Yours disappointedly,

John

by **owenshooter** on Tue May 20, 2008 3:33 pm

Twill wrote:The minute the controversy ends, you guys take it off topic

trust you be the one doing it too, Owen

OK, thread unstickied...do keep it on topic though or I will have to lockerify it.

Have a good one
Twill

it is just my VICTORY LAP!!!!! come on, we are just rejoicing a bit!!!
and i look forward to the changes you are going to put into effect. it sounds truly interesting. *snicker*-0

by **gloryordeath** on Tue May 20, 2008 9:13 pm

bob72 wrote:By introducing the doubles babysitting rule you effectively cut out a whole segment of your playing market.

I play with a friend at doubles but we are both professional business men who have to travel.

With this rule you wipe out our doubles games, as we cannot know in advance how long any given doubles game is going to last. You can say that at least once per month I'll have to babysit for him and vice versa. Ususally for only 2 nights (thus only 1 round possibly 2)

I can't see the harm in me taking turns for him but your site and your rules and there must be loads of documented abuse of babysitting for you to consider such changes which stop legit players who also have a life

Yours disappointedly,

John

Go back and READ the whole topic before posting. Cheating is a problem in PART of the team games and new web tools are being coded to deal with it without lumping everyone in the same boat.

by **bob72** on Wed May 21, 2008 5:33 am

gloryordeath wrote: Go back and READ the whole topic before posting. Cheating is a problem in PART of the team games and new web tools are being coded to deal with it without lumping everyone in the same boat.

Sorry if the topic was closed it should be locked I read the OP's question and responded.

Why doesn't the OP update the 1st Post if the topic is resolved.

Expect me to read everyone answer before responding 36 pages? You are having a laugh if you think people have the time or energy.
:roll:

by **owenshooter** on Wed May 21, 2008 11:23 am

bob72 wrote:Sorry if the topic was closed it should be locked I read the OP's question and responded.

Why doesn't the OP update the 1st Post if the topic is resolved.

Expect me to read everyone answer before responding 36 pages? You are having a laugh if you think people have the time or energy.

nope, but when something is a sticky for 20 days, and at the top of the forum, some people may expect you to at least peek in every now and then... we talked on PM's, and you are all up to speed, so it is all good!-0

by **kmacready** on Fri May 30, 2008 8:46 am

RiskTycoon wrote:it's completely wrong... who ever thinks taking ALL the turns in a sequential team game gives an advantage is an idiot.... so in other words .... if i was to start a battle of math problems you folks seriously think one head is better than two or three? that is just plain stupid.... one person taking ALL the turns in a sequential team game IS NOT an advantage and anyone who thinks otherwise is ignorant ...... maybe in freestyle i agree 100% ... but not sequential .... it's just not true...

I couldn't agree more. well said.

by **Timminz** on Fri May 30, 2008 11:42 am

kmacready wrote:
RiskTycoon wrote:it's completely wrong... who ever thinks taking ALL the turns in a sequential team game gives an advantage is an idiot.... so in other words .... if i was to start a battle of math problems you folks seriously think one head is better than two or three? that is just plain stupid.... one person taking ALL the turns in a sequential team game IS NOT an advantage and anyone who thinks otherwise is ignorant ...... maybe in freestyle i agree 100% ... but not sequential .... it's just not true...

I couldn't agree more. well said.

The only time I could see it being abused with seq, is if one really good player is on a team with a bunch of idiot cooks, who won't listen to strategy. In that case, if the high-ranked player took all the turns, they'd be more likely to win, and would gain more points for winning, since their teammate(s) is/are low scoring. I would like to think that that scenario would be an easy one to spot, by any of the hunters.

by **cpurcell** on Fri May 30, 2008 11:52 am

bob72 wrote:By introducing the doubles babysitting rule you effectively cut out a whole segment of your playing market.

I play with a friend at doubles but we are both professional business men who have to travel.

With this rule you wipe out our doubles games, as we cannot know in advance how long any given doubles game is going to last. You can say that at least once per month I'll have to babysit for him and vice versa. Ususally for only 2 nights (thus only 1 round possibly 2)

I can't see the harm in me taking turns for him but your site and your rules and there must be loads of documented abuse of babysitting for you to consider such changes which stop legit players who also have a life

Yours disappointedly,

John

I wholeheartedly agree...There will always be people taking advantage of the rules meant to help legit players, and the rules are created to try to end the cheating, unfortunately, sometimes they hurt everyone, cheaters and legits... :cry:

by **Twill** on Fri May 30, 2008 2:08 pm

It seems as though some people have taken the shelfing of this current proposal to mean that sitting is now a free for all.

It mean's we've had to update the FAQ rule a little to clarify:

FAQ 15 wrote:You can, with the stipulation that the account babysitter is not your opponent in any current game and does not start or join new games (except for ongoing tournaments). It is common courtesy to announce in game chat that another player will take your turn(s) during your absence. Furthermore, you should only take another player's turn if they are in danger of missing a turn, not for the purpose of gaining a tactical advantage.

(emphasis added)

This is not a departure from what was true before, it simply makes tactical account sitting a punishable offence (which is always has been in practice)

I will update the first post with this as well.

Have a good one
Twill

Website · by **Bob7777** on Sun Nov 02, 2008 7:43 pm

Randomness never ends

by **sailorseal** on Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:06 pm

Twill wrote:It seems as though some people have taken the shelfing of this current proposal to mean that sitting is now a free for all.

It mean's we've had to update the FAQ rule a little to clarify:

FAQ 15 wrote:You can, with the stipulation that the account babysitter is not your opponent in any current game and does not start or join new games (except for ongoing tournaments). It is common courtesy to announce in game chat that another player will take your turn(s) during your absence. Furthermore, you should only take another player's turn if they are in danger of missing a turn, [b]not for the purpose of gaining a tactical advantage.[/b]

(emphasis added)

This is not a departure from what was true before, it simply makes tactical account sitting a punishable offence (which is always has been in practice)

I will update the first post with this as well.

Have a good one
Twill

Is getting advice now illegal?

by **Bones2484** on Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:11 pm

sailorseal wrote:
Twill wrote:It seems as though some people have taken the shelfing of this current proposal to mean that sitting is now a free for all.

It mean's we've had to update the FAQ rule a little to clarify:

FAQ 15 wrote:You can, with the stipulation that the account babysitter is not your opponent in any current game and does not start or join new games (except for ongoing tournaments). It is common courtesy to announce in game chat that another player will take your turn(s) during your absence. Furthermore, you should only take another player's turn if they are in danger of missing a turn, [b]not for the purpose of gaining a tactical advantage.[/b]

(emphasis added)

This is not a departure from what was true before, it simply makes tactical account sitting a punishable offence (which is always has been in practice)

I will update the first post with this as well.

Have a good one
Twill

Is getting advice now illegal?

How did you come to that conclusion from what Twill said?

by **owenshooter** on Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:17 pm

Bones2484 wrote:How did you come to that conclusion from what Twill said?

do you mean, "from what twill say on may 30th in 2008?"... sigh... the black jesus frowns upon silly bumps...-0

by **Prankcall** on Sat Jan 31, 2009 3:36 am

Bump..Let me be the first to say I said team games should not be included in this,the overwhelming majority voted this way also.It show you how impressive with restraint and patience you could very easily climb the scoreboard playing only and exclusively team seq games quads only,as most people wont join against other high ranks as they don't really want a challenge outside of clan based games.This has what the site has come to,is people increasing their scores as a means to show they have the biggest Dick.