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muy_thaiguy wrote:Well, if Japan had not been to busy fighting the US in the Pacific, Russia's already thinned forces would have crumbled (when they found out that Japan would not invade, they immediately shifted 40 divisions of troops to their Western Front, enabling them to finally turn the invasion back). If the US had not intervened, then even Russia would have probably fallen like Poland, France, and Scandinavia before them.
whitestazn88 wrote:like if you're playing risk and someone decides to "hand of god" the board and knock all the pieces over and shit. then everyone just gets pissed at them.
Simon Viavant wrote:Wow, I'm the only not sure. I do know that Japan wasn't about to attack Russia. Eventually , the Russains might have beaten the Germans back. Britain still had naval superiority. But Hitler was mostly winning. I was sure there'd be more not sures, I guess this is a pretty egotistical bunch.
LYR wrote:The Russians were pushing the Germans back. Operation Barbarossa started June 22, 1941 (if memory serves me correctly. If it doesn't it goes in the hole for a week). The counter-attack from Moscow (which pushed the Germans back over 200 miles) began on December 5. The Germans weren't really "pinned" in continental Europe until D-Day (unless you count the US. invading Italy, after Britain, Sept. 9, 1943).
That was nearly two years after Pearl Harbor. The Germans had plenty of time to fight the Soviets, and they were losing. Britain had invaded Italy, and the Italians surrendered Sept. 8, 1943 (a day before U.S. invasion). Again, Axis powers were (basically) defeated in North Africa without U.S. (although U.S. help came eventually, anways).
In conclusion, Britain and the Soviet Union would have outlasted the Germans (if they did not just use brute force).
jonesthecurl wrote:I haven't voted.
Like most counter-history, I find I need an earlier question answered.
WHY did the US not join in?
jonesthecurl wrote:INcidentally, do Mexicans and Canadians and others find it bloody annoying when people say "America" and mean, not only "North America" but ("specifically) the U S A, in the same way that the Welsh, Scots, etc. find it bloody annoying when the media forget the difference between " English" and "British"?
dewey316 wrote:There you go, the US just can't win. We act too much, or too quickly, and we are elitists, or we didn't act soon enough and we are lazy.
Skoffin wrote: So um.. er... I'll be honest, I don't know what the f*ck to do from here. Goddamnit chu.
LYR wrote:The reason Germany didn't completely destroy England was because Hitler was afraid of water. seriously. he was afraid have a naval assault on britain.
LYR wrote:The reason Germany didn't completely destroy England was because Hitler was afraid of water. seriously. he was afraid have a naval assault on britain.
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