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Re: Switzerland v30--June 29--PAGE 1+25 [I,GP]

Postby Kaplowitz on Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:53 pm

So basically you like the last update, but you dont like the flag?
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Re: Switzerland v30--June 29--PAGE 1+25 [I,GP]

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:36 pm

Ruben Cassar wrote:With all due respect Kap but you made a poll and the majority of people said they liked version A. So why don't you stick with that? Are you going to ignore what the vote says?

Polls, as always, aren't hard and fast bananas to live by. They are merely meant to be guidance aides and tools. :D


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Re: Switzerland v30--June 29--PAGE 1+25 [I,GP]

Postby Ruben Cassar on Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:28 am

AndyDufresne wrote:
Ruben Cassar wrote:With all due respect Kap but you made a poll and the majority of people said they liked version A. So why don't you stick with that? Are you going to ignore what the vote says?

Polls, as always, aren't hard and fast bananas to live by. They are merely meant to be guidance aides and tools. :D


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I knew you would reply to that part Andy! :p So what guidance did they give in this case? ;)
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Re: Switzerland v30--June 29--PAGE 1+25 [I,GP]

Postby pamoa on Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:20 pm

Could this poll be removed ? It still refer to version 26 !
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Re: Switzerland v30--June 29--PAGE 1+25 [I,GP]

Postby wcaclimbing on Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:08 pm

why the red borders? I vote that you go back to the white ones, I like them much better. The red is too harsh and doesn't fit with the rest of the map visually.

I like the dark, too.
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Re: Switzerland v30--June 29--PAGE 1+25 [I,GP]

Postby Kaplowitz on Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:01 pm

Im going to start a new poll:

Does this map feel like Switzerland?
A) Yes, let's move on!
B) No, when I look at your map, I don't think of Switzerland.
C) I dont really know what Switzerland feels like...why does it really matter?
D) Other (post what...really I dont think anyone will pick this one :? )

I have a funny feeling the poll wont work, so just post your answer.
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Re: Switzerland v30--June 29--PAGE 1+25 [I,GP]

Postby ZeakCytho on Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:07 pm

I vote C. But add in the "let's move on" from A. We've been over this enough times...the colors are fine.
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Re: Switzerland v30--June 29--PAGE 1+25 [I,GP]

Postby wcaclimbing on Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:43 pm

I vote C.
I like the colors, just not those red borders (V29 is better, in my opinion)
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Re: Switzerland v30--June 29--PAGE 1+25 [I,GP]

Postby Ruben Cassar on Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:01 pm

Kaplowitz wrote:Im going to start a new poll:

Does this map feel like Switzerland?
A) Yes, let's move on!
B) No, when I look at your map, I don't think of Switzerland.
C) I dont really know what Switzerland feels like...why does it really matter?
D) Other (post what...really I dont think anyone will pick this one :? )

I have a funny feeling the poll wont work, so just post your answer.


Depends on what version we're talking about. ;)

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If it's this one I like it and vote C. However I prefer the earlier version of the flag when it was incorporated in the title.
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Re: Switzerland v30--June 29--PAGE 1+25 [I,GP]

Postby pamoa on Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:31 am

Kaplowitz wrote:Im going to start a new poll: Does this map feel like Switzerland?
A) Yes, let's move on!
B) No, when I look at your map, I don't think of Switzerland.
C) I dont really know what Switzerland feels like...why does it really matter?
D) Other (post what...really I dont think anyone will pick this one :? )
I have a funny feeling the poll wont work, so just post your answer.

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I would make your poll as following:

does any of these maps feel like Switzerland?
A) Grey background (v29) it should be, let's move on!
B) Red background (v26b) as the swiss flag, it's obvious.
C) No, when I look at these maps, I don't think of Switzerland. (so tell me!)
D) I dont really know what Switzerland feels like...why does it really matter?

Before putting your poll online, ask some moderator to clean the one running now! I had the same problem and it seems they have to remove the part of code before you put a new one, else it bugs. #-o
Let it run for at least one week without putting any new version online before poll end. Take your decision and do not move from it anymore or we will still argue about at Christmas time!
I hope you can move out of it, good luck. :D

Btw maybe the names of surrounding country could be in their native language as the rest of the names on the map.
Deutschland, France, Italia, Österreich.
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Re: Switzerland v30--June 29--PAGE 1+25 [I,GP]

Postby mibi on Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:23 am

I have said it before, but I will say it again.

It hasn't looked like Switzerland since version 5

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Re: Switzerland v30--June 29--PAGE 1+25 [I,GP]

Postby yeti_c on Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:54 am

The oldflag as part of the title was better

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Re: Switzerland v30--June 29--PAGE 1+25 [I,GP]

Postby Kaplowitz on Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:46 pm

mibi wrote:I have said it before, but I will say it again.

It hasn't looked like Switzerland since version 5

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I have said it before, but I will say it again.

What about version 5 looks like Switzerland?

And stop with the avatars!! You're killing me :x
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Re: Switzerland v30--June 29--PAGE 1+25 [I,GP]

Postby Ruben Cassar on Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:59 pm

mibi wrote:I have said it before, but I will say it again.

It hasn't looked like Switzerland since version 5

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With all due respect but this version looks like crap. The current version is much, much better.

Just because there is a background image of a mountain it doesn't make it feel more like Switzerland!
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Re: Switzerland v30--June 29--PAGE 1+25 [I,GP]

Postby Ruben Cassar on Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:00 pm

pamoa wrote:Btw maybe the names of surrounding country could be in their native language as the rest of the names on the map.
Deutschland, France, Italia, Österreich.


I agree...

yeti_c wrote:The oldflag as part of the title was better

C.


...and I agree again.
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Re: Switzerland v30--June 29--PAGE 1+25 [I,GP]

Postby Kaplowitz on Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:02 pm

Ruben Cassar wrote:
pamoa wrote:Btw maybe the names of surrounding country could be in their native language as the rest of the names on the map.
Deutschland, France, Italia, Österreich.


I agree...
That's a good point. Ill change it once we decide what the heck we're doing!
yeti_c wrote:The oldflag as part of the title was better

C.


...and I agree again.
I disagree personally, but we can poll that later :)
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Re: Switzerland v30--June 29--PAGE 1+25 [I,GP]

Postby multiplayertim on Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:40 am

Ruben Cassar wrote:
pamoa wrote:Btw maybe the names of surrounding country could be in their native language as the rest of the names on the map.
Deutschland, France, Italia, Österreich.


I agree...

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Re: Switzerland v30--June 29--PAGE 1+25 [I,GP]

Postby mibi on Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:46 am

Ruben Cassar wrote:
mibi wrote:I have said it before, but I will say it again.

It hasn't looked like Switzerland since version 5

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With all due respect but this version looks like crap. The current version is much, much better.

Just because there is a background image of a mountain it doesn't make it feel more like Switzerland!


yes that version looks like crap, but it is the only version that looks like switzerland. Jsut because there is a random mountain in the background DOES make it feel more like switzerland. Switzerland is about mountains, and google agrees.

The latest versions also look like crap, but at least it doesn't make Switzerland seem like the home of dracula and other things that go bump in the austrian night.
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Re: Switzerland v30--June 29--PAGE 1+25 [I,GP]

Postby Ruben Cassar on Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:18 pm

mibi wrote:
The latest versions also look like crap, but at least it doesn't make Switzerland seem like the home of dracula and other things that go bump in the austrian night.


Dracula --> Transylvania --> Romania

Not Austria. :)
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Re: Switzerland v30--June 29--PAGE 1+25 [I,GP]

Postby yeti_c on Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:32 pm

Ruben Cassar wrote:
mibi wrote:
The latest versions also look like crap, but at least it doesn't make Switzerland seem like the home of dracula and other things that go bump in the austrian night.


Dracula --> Transylvania --> Romania

Not Austria. :)


I think that's the point he's making...

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Re: Switzerland v30--June 29--PAGE 1+25 [I,GP]

Postby Kaplowitz on Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:56 pm

If I am correct, mibi wants it to be brighter and he wants the mt pic?
Others want the surrounding countries in their own languages?

I think the theme is fine personally, so if you guys who dont like it are going to continue to complain, you need to give me some suggestions! I'm clueless!
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Re: Switzerland v30--June 29--PAGE 1+25 [I,GP]

Postby Kaplowitz on Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:34 pm

*cough*
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Re: Switzerland v30--June 29--PAGE 1+25 [I,GP]

Postby t-o-m on Sat Jul 12, 2008 3:51 pm

ok, continuation from the other thread of yours.

You say that you're not ignoring people. You say that not many people are saying that it doesnt say Swiss, but how many people are saying that it does scream Swiss?
None that i can see.

Ok, so what do you think of when you think of Switzerland?

  • you could think of euthanasia (but i dont think that would go too well on a map)
  • mountians
  • fresh air
  • cleaness
  • neutrality
  • health
  • rich people
  • great happyness


Ok, so what do you think on your map shows any of them?
  • the title (well, hardly that - only that because it just says switzerland)
  • the river colour


so, this is your representation of switzerland:

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what do i see here?

  • darkness
  • colours that just dont say switzlerland at all
  • brown mountins
  • things looking like metal
  • just seems like a blob in the middle of no where

ok, so what would i personally suggest?

  • have it bright
  • clean colours, whites, pale colours, friendly ones
  • make things not look so harsh
  • not having a red line on the outside
  • lighten it up
  • change the colours into something nice like i said above
  • make it neutral, and make it seem pure and clean, not a beveled thing with dark bits in.

i hope this is a big enough post that you cannot ignore.
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Re: Switzerland v30--June 29--PAGE 1+25 [I,GP]

Postby ZeakCytho on Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:25 am

I think I disagree with everything Tom wrote. As I've said before, the color scheme looks fine. Who gives a crap if it doesn't "look like Switzerland"? For that matter, what does Switzerland even look like? As has been said before, the major elements in Switzerland (mountains, rivers, lakes, etc.) are hit by a wide variety of colors that are, to some extent, reflected in the map.

The color scheme is fine. The red border, however, is not. Get rid of it. I also think the mountains have regressed. I liked them better before they were all bumpy. Also, Schaffhausen has a glow on it that no other territory has. I'd just get rid of the glow. And the southwestern part of Bienne looks very blurry for some reason.

There are a bunch of minor tweaks that can be made to this map, but I really don't see the issue that everyone has with it not being Swiss enough.
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Re: Switzerland v30--June 29--PAGE 1+25 [I,GP]

Postby Kaplowitz on Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:05 am

gah!
I'm going to make some changes according to what Tom wants to see, and then we can compare it to v29.
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