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Re: Is God really Just?

Postby Juan_Bottom on Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:34 pm

jay_a2j wrote:I know that God said that he created Adam "from the dust of the Earth". WHY do you insist on believing that He forgot to add, "by way of evolution"??????? Can you not see that you are adding to scripture that which is NOT there?

"He who has ears let him hear!"


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Re: Is God really Just?

Postby Backglass on Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:58 pm

jay_a2j wrote:I know that God said that he created Adam "from the dust of the Earth". WHY do you insist on believing that He forgot to add, "by way of evolution"??????? Can you not see that you are adding to scripture that which is NOT there?

"He who has ears let him hear!"


I know that Leprechauns have unbelievable riches for those that seek them! WHY do you insist on believing that our wealthy, yet tiny, magical friends do not exist? IF YOU WOULD ONLY OPEN YOUR HEART AND SEEK THEM OUT, THEN YE SHALL FIND THEM! HALLELUJAH!

YEAH, for they will NOT cometh unto you for it was written long ago that this is NOT their way. They are a stealthy people. Although we do not see them, they are all around us...I know. I have felt their presence on many occasions. More than once I have been in need of cash, only to find a coin on the street or in my car. How else could this have happened but through a divine gift? Do you honestly believe that this is just coincidence? The Leprechaun Bible says "Only a fool chooses not to see the power and riches of our little neighbors".

Jay...they love us so much and want to share their riches with us...but this will only happen when you truly believe and let them into your heart.

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Re: Is God really Just?

Postby MeDeFe on Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:20 pm

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jay_a2j wrote:I know that God said that he created Adam "from the dust of the Earth". WHY do you insist on believing that He forgot to add, "by way of evolution"??????? Can you not see that you are adding to scripture that which is NOT there?

"He who has ears let him hear!"


I know that Leprechauns have unbelievable riches for those that seek them! WHY do you insist on believing that our wealthy, yet tiny, magical friends do not exist? IF YOU WOULD ONLY OPEN YOUR HEART AND SEEK THEM OUT, THEN YE SHALL FIND THEM! HALLELUJAH!

YEAH, for they will NOT cometh unto you for it was written long ago that this is NOT their way. They are a stealthy people. Although we do not see them, they are all around us...I know. I have felt their presence on many occasions. More than once I have been in need of cash, only to find a coin on the street or in my car. How else could this have happened but through a divine gift? Do you honestly believe that this is just coincidence? The Leprechaun Bible says "Only a fool chooses not to see the power and riches of our little neighbors".

Jay...they love us so much and want to share their riches with us...but this will only happen when you truly believe and let them into your heart.

"He who needs money, may they find them!"

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Re: Is God really Just?

Postby joecoolfrog on Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:42 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
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jay_a2j wrote:
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jay_a2j wrote:
Do you believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God?

Do you believe that Jesus IS God?

Since you obviously could not be bothered to read me previous answer, I will say again Absolutely I do!

But, you are not my judge.



I never said that I was your judge. Well, you have the basics down, which is what is important. The other stuff, is icing on the cake. God "winks at our times of ignorance". What is your obsession however, to label me a part of "they"? Am I your enemy? Do I not acknowledge the same Lord as you?


When you proclaim that the Bible says Evolution is false and that science has not proven much of what it has, ... you lie... for the rest, that is between you and God.


I pray that God opens your eyes. It should be an easy task to present the evidence then, right? Show me this proof.


Nobody on this forum is more blinkered,narrow minded and unwilling to listen as you, its hard to know if you are simply a hypocrite or a complete idiot as well. You swallow the most ludicrous conspiracy theories on the strength of a dodgy video yet refuse to accept overwhelming scientific evidence, if there is a God he would be embarassed to be associated with you.
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Re: Is God really Just?

Postby joecoolfrog on Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:43 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
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jay_a2j wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
Do you believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God?

Do you believe that Jesus IS God?

Since you obviously could not be bothered to read me previous answer, I will say again Absolutely I do!

But, you are not my judge.



I never said that I was your judge. Well, you have the basics down, which is what is important. The other stuff, is icing on the cake. God "winks at our times of ignorance". What is your obsession however, to label me a part of "they"? Am I your enemy? Do I not acknowledge the same Lord as you?


When you proclaim that the Bible says Evolution is false and that science has not proven much of what it has, ... you lie... for the rest, that is between you and God.


I pray that God opens your eyes. It should be an easy task to present the evidence then, right? Show me this proof.


Nobody on this forum is more blinkered,narrow minded and unwilling to listen as you, its hard to know if you are simply a hypocrite or a complete idiot as well. You swallow the most ludicrous conspiracy theories on the strength of a dodgy video yet refuse to accept overwhelming scientific evidence, if there is a God he would be embarassed to be associated with you.
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Re: Is God really Just?

Postby Backglass on Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:50 pm

joecoolfrog wrote:Nobody on this forum is more blinkered,narrow minded and unwilling to listen as you, its hard to know if you are simply a hypocrite or a complete idiot as well. You swallow the most ludicrous conspiracy theories on the strength of a dodgy video yet refuse to accept overwhelming scientific evidence, if there is a God he would be embarassed to be associated with you.


Awwwww...don't be too hard on my buddy Jay. He's just very strung out, shaky and irritable from nicotine addiction. Let him go get his drug fix at the "Smokers Oasis" near the front door and he will return as happy as a heroin junkie on payday. :lol:
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Re: Is God really Just?

Postby joecoolfrog on Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:01 pm

Jay is harmless but the crap he is peddling is dangerous, Bush is 'guided by God' to invade another country and shaughter thousands, will we never learn !
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Re: Is God really Just?

Postby Juan_Bottom on Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:39 pm

Backglass wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:I know that God said that he created Adam "from the dust of the Earth". WHY do you insist on believing that He forgot to add, "by way of evolution"??????? Can you not see that you are adding to scripture that which is NOT there?

"He who has ears let him hear!"


I know that Leprechauns have unbelievable riches for those that seek them! WHY do you insist on believing that our wealthy, yet tiny, magical friends do not exist? IF YOU WOULD ONLY OPEN YOUR HEART AND SEEK THEM OUT, THEN YE SHALL FIND THEM! HALLELUJAH!

YEAH, for they will NOT cometh unto you for it was written long ago that this is NOT their way. They are a stealthy people. Although we do not see them, they are all around us...I know. I have felt their presence on many occasions. More than once I have been in need of cash, only to find a coin on the street or in my car. How else could this have happened but through a divine gift? Do you honestly believe that this is just coincidence? The Leprechaun Bible says "Only a fool chooses not to see the power and riches of our little neighbors".

Jay...they love us so much and want to share their riches with us...but this will only happen when you truly believe and let them into your heart.

"He who needs money, may they find them!"

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Wowee!!!! Sign me up for this religion!!! It's all so true! Who do I make the check out to? Myself?
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Re: Is God really Just?

Postby Juan_Bottom on Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:41 pm

joecoolfrog wrote:Jay is harmless but the crap he is peddling is dangerous, Bush is 'guided by God' to invade another country and shaughter thousands, will we never learn !


:lol: :lol: :) :shock: :? :? :( :( :cry:

People out there believe this................. :cry:
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Re: Is God really Just?

Postby jay_a2j on Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:22 pm

Juan_Bottom wrote:
joecoolfrog wrote:Jay is harmless but the crap he is peddling is dangerous, Bush is 'guided by God' to invade another country and shaughter thousands, will we never learn !


:lol: :lol: :) :shock: :? :? :( :( :cry:

People out there believe this................. :cry:


And I'm not one of them. ;)
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Re: Is God really Just?

Postby Juan_Bottom on Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:24 pm

jay_a2j wrote:And I'm not one of them.


I apologize Jay, I didn't mean to make it sound like you were. My bad.

You and I have discussed this before, so I know where you stand. Sorry friend!!!!
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Re: Is God really Just?

Postby PLAYER57832 on Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:28 pm

Yes, people do, but folks PLEASE be careful. When you paint "religion" as a whole as a bunch of "poppycock" like leprecauns, you insult and deride millions of quite intelligent and well minded individuals, not just the unthinking and extremists.

I don't agree with much of what Jay claims, but I absolutely do believe the Bible ...as do many, many others.

You don't have to agree, but nothing is to be gained by not respecting others beliefs. No, I cannot PROVE my beliefs, but you cannot DISPROVE them, either. Few people will listen to folks who merely insult. And, I would suggest that is a loss to all involved.
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Re: Is God really Just?

Postby PLAYER57832 on Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:29 pm

Juan_Bottom wrote:
joecoolfrog wrote:Jay is harmless but the crap he is peddling is dangerous, Bush is 'guided by God' to invade another country and shaughter thousands, will we never learn !


:lol: :lol: :) :shock: :? :? :( :( :cry:

People out there believe this................. :cry:

And a lot of them do so with out any belief in God.
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Re: Is God really Just?

Postby Juan_Bottom on Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:31 pm

PLAYER57832 wrote:
Juan_Bottom wrote:
joecoolfrog wrote:Jay is harmless but the crap he is peddling is dangerous, Bush is 'guided by God' to invade another country and shaughter thousands, will we never learn !


:lol: :lol: :) :shock: :? :? :( :( :cry:

People out there believe this................. :cry:

And a lot of them do so with out any belief in God.



You mean that they believe that Bush believes it, right?
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Re: Is God really Just?

Postby PLAYER57832 on Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:34 pm

Juan_Bottom wrote:
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Juan_Bottom wrote:
joecoolfrog wrote:Jay is harmless but the crap he is peddling is dangerous, Bush is 'guided by God' to invade another country and shaughter thousands, will we never learn !


:lol: :lol: :) :shock: :? :? :( :( :cry:

People out there believe this................. :cry:

And a lot of them do so with out any belief in God.



You mean that they believe that Bush believes it, right?

I mean mostly that they support his policies.
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Re: Is God really Just?

Postby joecoolfrog on Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:15 pm

PLAYER57832 wrote:Yes, people do, but folks PLEASE be careful. When you paint "religion" as a whole as a bunch of "poppycock" like leprecauns, you insult and deride millions of quite intelligent and well minded individuals, not just the unthinking and extremists.

I don't agree with much of what Jay claims, but I absolutely do believe the Bible ...as do many, many others.

You don't have to agree, but nothing is to be gained by not respecting others beliefs. No, I cannot PROVE my beliefs, but you cannot DISPROVE them, either. Few people will listen to folks who merely insult. And, I would suggest that is a loss to all involved.


Sadly though the minority make the most noise in this case, they also ( as in this thread ) profess to be the only 'true' Christians and no doubt this colours certain peoples view of the whole religion.
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Re: Is God really Just?

Postby Backglass on Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:38 pm

PLAYER57832 wrote:No, I cannot PROVE my beliefs, but you cannot DISPROVE them, either.


True...just as I cannot PROVE Leprechauns, you cannot DISPROVE them either.

You say this is insulting. I say...other than the number of followers, how is my TRUE religion any different from yours?

It is written in our ancient Leprechaun Bible "There will be those who try to temp you from our riches through mockery and hate. RESIST THEM, for they are the tools of the Chupacabra".

Turn from your wicked ways Goat-Sucker! Repent! I pray that someday you will open your heart and let it be filled with pots-o-gold. Learn to love them and when you die you will spend eternity at the end of the rainbow. I KNOW this to be true. I will pity you if you are left behind, but I will sleep well knowing I did all that I could do.

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Re: Is God really Just?

Postby Juan_Bottom on Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:06 pm

Backglass wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:No, I cannot PROVE my beliefs, but you cannot DISPROVE them, either.


True...just as I cannot PROVE Leprechauns, you cannot DISPROVE them either.

You say this is insulting. I say...other than the number of followers, how is my TRUE religion any different from yours?

It is written in our ancient Leprechaun Bible "There will be those who try to temp you from our riches through mockery and hate. RESIST THEM, for they are the tools of the Chupacabra".

Turn from your wicked ways Goat-Sucker! Repent! I pray that someday you will open your heart and let it be filled with pots-o-gold. Learn to love them and when you die you will spend eternity at the end of the rainbow. I KNOW this to be true. I will pity you if you are left behind, but I will sleep well knowing I did all that I could do.

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BACKGLASS, you are invited to join the ATHEIST clan,...... MEDEFE likes your Leprechaun remarks. And we all need more of them in our lives.
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Re: Is God really Just?

Postby joecoolfrog on Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:29 pm

It seems a bit weird organising a clan on the strength of non belief, its a bit like getting a group together because they are all allergic to cheese :lol:
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Re: Is God really Just?

Postby heavycola on Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:10 am

jay_a2j wrote:
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jay_a2j wrote:I pray that God opens your eyes.


...and I hope that one day, you open your own. Seriously.

Except we are all quite familiar with your views, but you won't even bother to look into ours ... THAT is the difference!

Remember God NEVER teaches ignorance! So, to refuse to even see ... you are like the Pharasees who could site the law, but never really understood it.



I know that God said that he created Adam "from the dust of the Earth". WHY do you insist on believing that He forgot to add, "by way of evolution"??????? Can you not see that you are adding to scripture that which is NOT there?


What about the other stuff the bible left out? pulsars? the solar system? the periodic table? quantum theory? gravity?

THEY DON'T EXIST! STOP ADDING TO THE BIBLE!

Jay - you do not understand evolution because you have closed your brain off from it. 'he who has ears, let him hear!' You get basic ideas wrong time and time again because you refuse to open your ears.
Have some intellectual honesty - at least try to understand it, and then reject it. AT the moment you are stickign your fingers in your ears and going, 'LALALALALALALA' and i don't see how you can square that attitude with yourself.

What do you say? You up for it? Seriously, let's do this properly.
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Re: Is God really Just?

Postby Juan_Bottom on Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:20 am

joecoolfrog wrote:It seems a bit weird organising a clan on the strength of non belief, its a bit like getting a group together because they are all allergic to cheese :lol:


:o

Screw you too buddy. :P
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Re: Is God really Just?

Postby MeDeFe on Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:17 am

joecoolfrog wrote:It seems a bit weird organising a clan on the strength of non belief, its a bit like getting a group together because they are all allergic to cheese :lol:

One reason is as good as any other for a clan.
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Re: Is God really Just?

Postby tzor on Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:02 am

heavycola wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:What about the other stuff the bible left out? pulsars? the solar system? the periodic table? quantum theory? gravity?

THEY DON'T EXIST! STOP ADDING TO THE BIBLE!

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What do you say? You up for it? Seriously, let's do this properly.


John 16:12-15 has the following words from Jesus, "I have much more to tell you, but you cannot bear it now. But when he comes, the Spirit of truth, he will guide you to all truth. He will not speak on his own, but he will speak what he hears, and will declare to you the things that are coming. He will glorify me, because he will take from what is mine and declare it to you. Everything that the Father has is mine; for this reason I told you that he will take from what is mine and declare it to you."

John 21:25 also states: There are also many other things that Jesus did, but if these were to be described individually, I do not think the whole world would contain the books that would be written.
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Re: Is God really Just?

Postby joecoolfrog on Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:59 am

Juan_Bottom wrote:
joecoolfrog wrote:It seems a bit weird organising a clan on the strength of non belief, its a bit like getting a group together because they are all allergic to cheese :lol:


:o

Screw you too buddy. :P


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Re: Is God really Just?

Postby Backglass on Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:58 am

Juan_Bottom wrote:BACKGLASS, you are invited to join the ATHEIST clan,.....


No thanks...sounds too much like a religion to me. :lol:

tzor wrote:John 16:12-15 has the following words from Jesus, "I have much more to tell you, but you cannot bear it now. But when he comes, the Spirit of truth, he will guide you to all truth. He will not speak on his own, but he will speak what he hears, and will declare to you the things that are coming. He will glorify me, because he will take from what is mine and declare it to you. Everything that the Father has is mine; for this reason I told you that he will take from what is mine and declare it to you."

John 21:25 also states: There are also many other things that Jesus did, but if these were to be described individually, I do not think the whole world would contain the books that would be written.


Bullshit. The Leprechaun Bible states:

Finnegan 12:14-20 - "Lo for we are wise with nature and the ways of the planets. Embrace the gravitational pull and the pulsing quasars for these are the building blocks of GOLD!"

Shamus 3:16 - "Fear not! Though I walk through endless fields of Clover, I know that THEY are with me. LISTEN! Can you not hear the jingle of tiny coins? Hallelujah!"
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