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Re: Regarding wicked (part 2)

Postby hecter on Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:22 am

yeti_c wrote:
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yeti_c wrote:
jbrettlip wrote:But apparently she didn't have a problem with divulging other secret or private info about the site. And she was part of CC, so she wouldn't be a 3rd party.


The only private info available is your email address - which you chose whether or not should be shown on the site...

Whether or not Mods can access that - I don't know... - It is a valid point.

Are IP Addresses also classified as private info? - if so then she had access to those too!!

C.

So, mods do not have access to our real addresses and names?


Not even CC has that info.

C.

I was told they know everything about us, including our blood type! :shock:
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Re: Regarding wicked (part 2)

Postby Orange-Idaho-Dog on Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:40 pm

Although the credit card information is a bit more important, it seems Lack has given us an answer already.

What I find interesting is that nowhere did anyone mention the below post

Unit_2 wrote:There was NO time frame defined in the confidentiality agreement, and therefore it is not binding after termination.


Is this true Lack? If so, theres no legal actions you can take against Wicked, unless she starts doing somthing more significant. So threaten all you want, there's nothing you can do.
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Re: Regarding wicked (part 2)

Postby Blitzaholic on Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:48 pm

lackattack wrote:Since wicked "stepped down" last Thursday she has actively been encouraging and enabling the creation of the multiple accounts that have trolled the forums and live chat over the last week. Neither reasoning nor warning has shown any sign of convicing her to move on and enjoy Conquer Club.

Wicked has now been caught red-handed spreading secret information about how to bypass some of our security methods regarding multiple accounts. Not only is this a glaring breach of an agreement which she has signed, it is evidence that she is out to damage Conquer Club itself and not just hurt those individuals she has grievances with. If our Rule #1 enforcement techniques become common knowledge, there will be much more cheating and it will seriously hurt everyone's enjoyment of this game.

To protect Conquer Club and your gaming experience I have taken swift action: I banned her account and instructed her to back off immediately or face legal consequences.

What a shame it had to come to this.



Great work Lackattack


Wicked, I lost the little respect for you I had left, good riddance witch =D>
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Re: Regarding wicked (part 2)

Postby Kemmler on Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:54 pm

Blitzaholic wrote:Wicked, I lost the little respect for you I had left, good riddance witch =D>


shut up Blitz
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Re: Regarding wicked (part 2)

Postby Blitzaholic on Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:58 pm

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Blitzaholic wrote:Wicked, I lost the little respect for you I had left, good riddance witch =D>


shut up Blitz



:lol: kemmler: you my slug can shut that sewer of a hole under you nose.


anyone that is promoting cheating and attempting to ruin the cc site is lame, you just cannot deny it.
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Re: Regarding wicked (part 2)

Postby PLAYER57832 on Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:36 pm

Frop wrote:
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lackattack wrote:hey there,

The agreement that she signed also has a clause against using personal information of our members for any other purpose than multi hunting. Of course, that doesn't mean she'll respect it, but there isn't so much damage she can do there. I made sure to pull the plug on her access before asking her to step down so that she doesn't try to sabotage things or collect personal info. But even if she did the worst it could be is your IP and email (maybe full name too) because we never store credit card numbers.

--lackattack



this is from Lack.

The fact that he removed her access before giving her the 'bad' news only confirms that's she was indeed ripe for the mental asylum. It doesn't rule out however that she grabbed all the information before she got booted.


No, it just shows that he was being extra cautious, as is prudent whether you suspect anything or not.

Suggesting that because Wicked showed a few people how to be multis means she is going to steal everyone's bank accounts, or even sell our emails is like suggesting that the kid who throws a firecracker in an empty street is likely to throw a live grenade.

That said, this did bring to light general security issues. Because, though I highly, highly doubt Wicked would do anything really criminal, others might well at some point.

As for the email and IP addresses ... the reality is if you do ANY transactions ANYWHERE, you are basically selling your information to someone. Have firewalls, etc., be careful ... and periodically change your information.
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Re: Regarding wicked (part 2)

Postby timmytuttut88 on Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:37 pm

if wicked actively supported multis lets see where it happened. I havent see any threads where she did it beside this:

wicked wrote:
twilldo wrote:the contents of this post are secret, as are my reasons for posting it and any insinuations made by my posting of it

that should clear things up, now shut up and leave as alone. but keep giving us your money, we like that.


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Re: Regarding wicked (part 2)

Postby owenshooter on Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:43 pm

Blitzaholic wrote:
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Blitzaholic wrote:Wicked, I lost the little respect for you I had left, good riddance witch =D>


shut up Blitz

:lol: kemmler: you my slug can shut that sewer of a hole under you nose.
anyone that is promoting cheating and attempting to ruin the cc site is lame, you just cannot deny it.

so interesting... how much does she have to do before those that believe in her can realize exactly what she has done, and admit they were wrong? shocking. if any user were caught doing such a thing, as she was, would they all rush to their defense, too? i just don't get it. sometimes, you just have to admit you are wrong and move on.-0
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Re: Regarding wicked (part 2)

Postby Orange-Idaho-Dog on Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:44 pm

Exactly, no proof she did anything. Only Lack & Twill's word, which means abosoloutly nothing to me anymore.
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Re: Regarding wicked (part 2)

Postby Gypsys Kiss on Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:52 pm

Orange-Idaho-Dog wrote:Exactly, no proof she did anything. Only Lack & Twill's word, which means abosoloutly nothing to me anymore.



Not true. I saw what she posted and where she posted it. Not proof I know, but it was out there for a short period.
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Re: Regarding wicked (part 2)

Postby timmytuttut88 on Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:54 pm

Gypsys Kiss wrote:
Orange-Idaho-Dog wrote:Exactly, no proof she did anything. Only Lack & Twill's word, which means abosoloutly nothing to me anymore.



Not true. I saw what she posted and where she posted it. Not proof I know, but it was out there for a short period.


well i dont need to know what she posted, but was it a thread, or did she post it in chat?
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Re: Regarding wicked (part 2)

Postby owenshooter on Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:57 pm

Orange-Idaho-Dog wrote:Exactly, no proof she did anything. Only Lack & Twill's word, which means abosoloutly nothing to me anymore.

yep... keep believing the sociopath... after all, isn't she the one that led the assault on the forums and when it went south for her, and there wasn't the groundswell of support she had predicted, she stood up and declared she had nothing to do with the fire she started OR the gasoline she threw on the fire? yeah, that was her... if you are so into evidence, please get a hold of her doctors diagnosis of lyme's disease... seems a bit too convenient, contrived and looked up on http://www.doctorkoop.com, for many people to believe. she was caught red handed, AFTER all the other infractions she was guilty of. what more do you need?-0

p.s.-interesting how she chose a weekend when mom and dad were out of town to try and burn down the CC household... as soon as one of them showed up, she declared her innocence in the entire matter across the forums.. sad...
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Re: Regarding wicked (part 2)

Postby Gypsys Kiss on Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:59 pm

timmytuttut88 wrote:
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Orange-Idaho-Dog wrote:Exactly, no proof she did anything. Only Lack & Twill's word, which means abosoloutly nothing to me anymore.



Not true. I saw what she posted and where she posted it. Not proof I know, but it was out there for a short period.


well i dont need to know what she posted, but was it a thread, or did she post it in chat?



Good, coz I wouldn't tell ya anyway :D

It was in a thread on a different forum
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Re: Regarding wicked (part 2)

Postby timmytuttut88 on Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:04 pm

Gypsys Kiss wrote:
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Orange-Idaho-Dog wrote:Exactly, no proof she did anything. Only Lack & Twill's word, which means abosoloutly nothing to me anymore.



Not true. I saw what she posted and where she posted it. Not proof I know, but it was out there for a short period.


well i dont need to know what she posted, but was it a thread, or did she post it in chat?



Good, coz I wouldn't tell ya anyway :D

It was in a thread on a different forum


so she posted IN a thread some way to make a multi and not get banned.

But did it seem like she was trying to ruin the website? or was it just like something that shouldnt have been taken seriously.
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Re: Regarding wicked (part 2)

Postby Gypsys Kiss on Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:13 pm

As to whether it was to ruin the site, I dont know. But why post it otherwise?
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Re: Regarding wicked (part 2)

Postby timmytuttut88 on Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:15 pm

Gypsys Kiss wrote:As to whether it was to ruin the site, I dont know. But why post it otherwise?


well i dont know why she posted it since i didnt read the thread.
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Re: Regarding wicked (part 2)

Postby Simon Viavant on Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:17 pm

I still think you should post evidence lack, cause otherwise the revolutionaries have another excuse to bitch and moan and troll, and this time I'm not sure it'll ever die down and blow over. Since you're so hesitant to post evidence, I'm starting to think maybe someone testified against her, and you were glad of an excuse to get rid of her, but then you realized the evidence wasn't very good and she was probably innocent, but it's too late to change it now cause it would really look bad and it'd give wicked credibility.
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Re: Regarding wicked (part 2)

Postby jbrettlip on Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:25 pm

So Lack should post the confidential information that Wicked got perma-banned for posting? That makes SOOOOO much sense. Either you are going to believe him or you are not. I would say even if he proved it to you, you would accuse him of making it all up. She is gone, there is nothing that can be done about that.
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Re: Regarding wicked (part 2)

Postby Gypsys Kiss on Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:27 pm

How can he post evidence? The thread it appeared in no longer exists and the evidence is 'sensitive information'.
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Re: Regarding wicked (part 2)

Postby Simon Viavant on Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:28 pm

I'm just saying otherwise the revolutionaries will bitch about this and troll up the forums forever if he doesn't. And since he refuses to give any sort of evidence, I'm starting to think there's a possibility that they're right.
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Re: Regarding wicked (part 2)

Postby Night Strike on Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:34 pm

Simon Viavant wrote:I'm just saying otherwise the revolutionaries will bitch about this and troll up the forums forever if he doesn't. And since he refuses to give any sort of evidence, I'm starting to think there's a possibility that they're right.


And if they troll up the forums, they're going to land themselves on a forum ban. There was evidence that secret information was exposed, and lack worked quickly to keep it hidden. Perhaps the people like you shouldn't be so skeptical of everything a mod or admin does on this site. Just because you didn't see something doesn't mean it didn't exist.
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Re: Regarding wicked (part 2)

Postby jbrettlip on Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:36 pm

Simon Viavant wrote:I'm just saying otherwise the revolutionaries will bitch about this and troll up the forums forever if he doesn't. And since he refuses to give any sort of evidence, I'm starting to think there's a possibility that they're right.


But these "revelutionairies" haven't actually accomplished anything. The uprising is over. She abandoned it herself. People may leave the site (I think there are 5 who said they would never play again because of this.) 5 people out of 20000+ do not make a mojority.
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Re: Regarding wicked (part 2)

Postby hwhrhett on Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:44 pm

anybody that doesnt believe lack here, is hiding their head in the sand, after the way that wicked has behaved for the last two weeks, this should come as no surprise at all.
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Re: Regarding wicked (part 2)

Postby Neoteny on Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:47 pm

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Re: Regarding wicked (part 2)

Postby qeee1 on Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:47 pm

Orange-Idaho-Dog wrote:Exactly, no proof she did anything. Only Lack & Twill's word, which means abosoloutly nothing to me anymore.


You can add my word to that... if you value that at anything. I knew she was doing it but was sworn to secrecy.
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