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mpjh wrote:Again I ask, does it matter what is the cause of climate change? The challenge for the young today is to find a way to manage our change in response. We can have famine, dislocation and wars, or .....
mpjh wrote:Again I ask, does it matter what is the cause of climate change? The challenge for the young today is to find a way to manage our change in response. We can have famine, dislocation and wars, or .....
cmckinney wrote:mpjh wrote:Again I ask, does it matter what is the cause of climate change? The challenge for the young today is to find a way to manage our change in response. We can have famine, dislocation and wars, or .....
And once again I say, humans have done little to nothing that has affected the climate change, so how are so supposed to stop Mother Nature, assuming the phenomenon is as big as the people who blow it completely out of proportion say it is.
Snorri1234 wrote:cmckinney wrote:mpjh wrote:Again I ask, does it matter what is the cause of climate change? The challenge for the young today is to find a way to manage our change in response. We can have famine, dislocation and wars, or .....
And once again I say, humans have done little to nothing that has affected the climate change, so how are so supposed to stop Mother Nature, assuming the phenomenon is as big as the people who blow it completely out of proportion say it is.
If it is as big as people who exaggerate say it is, then we are affecting it.
Curmudgeonx wrote:mpjh wrote:Again I ask, does it matter what is the cause of climate change? The challenge for the young today is to find a way to manage our change in response. We can have famine, dislocation and wars, or .....
. . . oceanfront property in Orlando, a vast area of the temperate zones moving to two-crop years, a melting of the permafrost which would allow the tapping of trillions of cubic feet of natural gas, a return of the Sahara to the jungle biozone it once was . . .
Curmudgeonx wrote:Snorri1234 wrote:cmckinney wrote:mpjh wrote:Again I ask, does it matter what is the cause of climate change? The challenge for the young today is to find a way to manage our change in response. We can have famine, dislocation and wars, or .....
And once again I say, humans have done little to nothing that has affected the climate change, so how are so supposed to stop Mother Nature, assuming the phenomenon is as big as the people who blow it completely out of proportion say it is.
If it is as big as people who exaggerate say it is, then we are affecting it.
That line of "reasoning" leads to madness and voting for Al Gore.
Juan_Bottom wrote:No no no, we are definitly a contributer, in a bad way. We had increased CO2 levels BEFORE the global climate change process really began to snowball. That has never happened before. I believe that the Earth is about 10 degrees hotter worldwide than it has ever been in the past, during this part of the climate change.
We just aren't the cause of the climate change, there is a difference.
Juan_Bottom wrote:No no no, we are definitly a contributer, in a bad way. We had increased CO2 levels BEFORE the global climate change process really began to snowball. That has never happened before. I believe that the Earth is about 10 degrees hotter worldwide than it has ever been in the past, during this part of the climate change.
We just aren't the cause of the climate change, there is a difference.
cmckinney wrote:Juan_Bottom wrote:No no no, we are definitly a contributer, in a bad way. We had increased CO2 levels BEFORE the global climate change process really began to snowball. That has never happened before. I believe that the Earth is about 10 degrees hotter worldwide than it has ever been in the past, during this part of the climate change.
We just aren't the cause of the climate change, there is a difference.
And here we go off on CO2 again. Everyone claims that CO2 causes global warming, when the evidence is to the contrary. The temperature rises before C02 rises in many cases, which means C02 doesn't cause it.
IF you look at the relation between solar activity and global warming, the correlation is very evident. Scientists agree that the sun's activity is at a much higher level then it has been in the last 8,000 years. Coincidence? I think not.
And i love how you all ignore the points I make against you.
cmckinney wrote:I just said the exact opposite...
That CO2 plays little to no part in it.
Juan_Bottom wrote:No no no, we are definitly a contributer, in a bad way. We had increased CO2 levels BEFORE the global climate change process really began to snowball. That has never happened before. I believe that the Earth is about 10 degrees hotter worldwide than it has ever been in the past, during this part of the climate change.
We just aren't the cause of the climate change, there is a difference.
Curmudgeonx wrote:"Ever been in the past" = last 4.5 billion years . . .
Juan_Bottom wrote:If you knew what you were talking about, then you would know what I'm talking about.
We all agree that this is a natural cycle correct?
Well, looking at this cycle, throughout all of earth's history, the earths mean temp is 10 degrees hotter than it should be right now.Curmudgeonx wrote:"Ever been in the past" = last 4.5 billion years . . .
Which really does give us a lot of data. So 10 degrees is considered significant. But this in no way means that the Earths system is all out of wack.
cmckinney wrote:You must have misread my above post. C02 emissions are not the cause of global warming.
cmckinney wrote:What should it be right now?
Source?
cmckinney wrote:C02 emissions are not the cause of global warming.
Snorri1234 wrote:cmckinney wrote:You must have misread my above post. C02 emissions are not the cause of global warming.
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White Moose wrote:Watch this movie: An Inconvenient Truth
It's a great movie which really makes you think about what is happening to the world.
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