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Re: Looks Like Its Joe Biden. (Poll)

Postby jay_a2j on Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:53 am

bigdaddyslim2 wrote:9/11 was an inside job lol tell that to the family's of the dead, and i remember bush when he was first told, he had the look of terror in his eyes hell he couldnt move for 5 minutes, there is no way bush is even close to being that smart to think of something like that.



Bush didn't plan it or execute it. He allowed it to happen. Look of terror? lol After he was told that a second plane had hit, he sat there for 20 minutes! Why wasn't he worried that HE was in danger? He was on national TV for God's sake! Any terrorist watching NBC could have let the highjackers know what school he was sitting in. The media did a bang up job covering this crap up. To quote Bush, "You can fool some of the people all of the time, it's the one's you can't, you have to worry about."
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Re: Looks Like Its Joe Biden. (Poll)

Postby Iliad on Sun Aug 24, 2008 6:18 am

rip yet anotehr promising thread that was derailed to 911

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Re: Looks Like Its Joe Biden. (Poll)

Postby comic boy on Sun Aug 24, 2008 6:26 am

jay_a2j wrote:
bigdaddyslim2 wrote:9/11 was an inside job lol tell that to the family's of the dead, and i remember bush when he was first told, he had the look of terror in his eyes hell he couldnt move for 5 minutes, there is no way bush is even close to being that smart to think of something like that.



Bush didn't plan it or execute it. He allowed it to happen. Look of terror? lol After he was told that a second plane had hit, he sat there for 20 minutes! Why wasn't he worried that HE was in danger? He was on national TV for God's sake! Any terrorist watching NBC could have let the highjackers know what school he was sitting in. The media did a bang up job covering this crap up. To quote Bush, "You can fool some of the people all of the time, it's the one's you can't, you have to worry about."


Damn amatuers these Lizardmen, according to Jay they can plan and excecute a massive fraud such as 9/11 ( and keep the many thousands of people involved quiet ) yet they cant silence the conspiracy nuts.........even though they control the World's media #-o
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Re: Looks Like Its Joe Biden. (Poll)

Postby Nobunaga on Sun Aug 24, 2008 7:21 am

... Joe Biden was a smart pick for BHO.

... I was hoping for Al Gore or Hillary.

... (Al wouldn't want the pay cut)

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Re: Looks Like Its Joe Biden. (Poll)

Postby Snorri1234 on Sun Aug 24, 2008 8:31 am

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bigdaddyslim2 wrote:For one race has nothing to do with it, I beleave we need expierance in the oval office, obama has less expierance than what bush had and look what happend, i dont think he is ready for the presidents position, What has he done for his state, besides them having the highest taxes and being the most deficit state, and obama talks about change and shaking up washington, so he goes and picks biden who has lost 2 times already, its the same old politics, get whoever might just help with the poll numbers, if obama really wanted to show some change put a woman on there like hillary, but in fact i dont think hillary would have wanted the job, she wants obama to lose that way in 4 years she has another chance not in 8 years, I am still not happy with how this primary was handled. to think that in america for us just not to count votes (michigan and flordia) and to have Dean to decide that in which he is on obama's staff is just wrong and i am a democrat. i was raised poor, been to prison, and now im very successful, i have always liked McCain, he is a straight talk kind of guy, i beleave what he says, and McCain is considering an old democrat like Lieberman for the vp, now that is thinking of change have a republican and democrat in the white house, and i pay enough taxes for a whole family to live good, i dont want my taxes raised like what obama will do for sure, even my dad who has voted democrat for 35 years will change over to McCain, we are not fooled by fancy speeches of obama, even biden himself said obama is to unexperienced for the white house HAHAHA, what a contradiction, if i was an obama supporter i would be pissed. i do think its a time for change, we have children starving right here in america and ppl sleeping in ditches, kids with no health care, blacks are having an epidemic in premature child births and child deaths in some of the largest city's in america, obama talks about how he is going to change things on day one, but come on whoever wins is going to have a challenge ahead of them. and i would just for once like obama to admit that he is wrong, and he was wrong about the iraq war, there is noticeable change in iraq, all of us people on this planet are brothers and sisters and shouldnt we all have the same rights as human beings. obama is not god, he is human and makes mistakes like the rest of us, like having a crook buy his home for him. and now obama is using negative adds. He has just proved he is just like the rest of them politicians. Do whatever it takes to win.


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Re: Looks Like Its Joe Biden. (Poll)

Postby Snorri1234 on Sun Aug 24, 2008 8:33 am

jay_a2j wrote:
bigdaddyslim2 wrote:9/11 was an inside job lol tell that to the family's of the dead, and i remember bush when he was first told, he had the look of terror in his eyes hell he couldnt move for 5 minutes, there is no way bush is even close to being that smart to think of something like that.



Bush didn't plan it or execute it. He allowed it to happen.


This doesn't seem to be in line with what you've previously said but does make a little more sense. At least if you're saying that he and his friends ignored all the fucking warnings.
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Re: Looks Like Its Joe Biden. (Poll)

Postby DaGip on Sun Aug 24, 2008 8:34 am

Snorri1234 wrote:
cmckinney wrote:
bigdaddyslim2 wrote:For one race has nothing to do with it, I beleave we need expierance in the oval office, obama has less expierance than what bush had and look what happend, i dont think he is ready for the presidents position, What has he done for his state, besides them having the highest taxes and being the most deficit state, and obama talks about change and shaking up washington, so he goes and picks biden who has lost 2 times already, its the same old politics, get whoever might just help with the poll numbers, if obama really wanted to show some change put a woman on there like hillary, but in fact i dont think hillary would have wanted the job, she wants obama to lose that way in 4 years she has another chance not in 8 years, I am still not happy with how this primary was handled. to think that in america for us just not to count votes (michigan and flordia) and to have Dean to decide that in which he is on obama's staff is just wrong and i am a democrat. i was raised poor, been to prison, and now im very successful, i have always liked McCain, he is a straight talk kind of guy, i beleave what he says, and McCain is considering an old democrat like Lieberman for the vp, now that is thinking of change have a republican and democrat in the white house, and i pay enough taxes for a whole family to live good, i dont want my taxes raised like what obama will do for sure, even my dad who has voted democrat for 35 years will change over to McCain, we are not fooled by fancy speeches of obama, even biden himself said obama is to unexperienced for the white house HAHAHA, what a contradiction, if i was an obama supporter i would be pissed. i do think its a time for change, we have children starving right here in america and ppl sleeping in ditches, kids with no health care, blacks are having an epidemic in premature child births and child deaths in some of the largest city's in america, obama talks about how he is going to change things on day one, but come on whoever wins is going to have a challenge ahead of them. and i would just for once like obama to admit that he is wrong, and he was wrong about the iraq war, there is noticeable change in iraq, all of us people on this planet are brothers and sisters and shouldnt we all have the same rights as human beings. obama is not god, he is human and makes mistakes like the rest of us, like having a crook buy his home for him. and now obama is using negative adds. He has just proved he is just like the rest of them politicians. Do whatever it takes to win.


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Re: Looks Like Its Joe Biden. (Poll)

Postby Snorri1234 on Sun Aug 24, 2008 8:39 am

black elk speaks wrote: i think that it is more likely that a democrat would vote for mccain because he is more central than obama.


Wait what?
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Re: Looks Like Its Joe Biden. (Poll)

Postby black elk speaks on Sun Aug 24, 2008 8:47 am

you don't think that obama is a super leftist libral?
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Re: Looks Like Its Joe Biden. (Poll)

Postby Snorri1234 on Sun Aug 24, 2008 8:50 am

black elk speaks wrote:you don't think that obama is a super leftist libral?


No ofcourse not, I'm european.

But I'm just amazed you could consider McCain central.
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Re: Looks Like Its Joe Biden. (Poll)

Postby black elk speaks on Sun Aug 24, 2008 8:55 am

Snorri1234 wrote:
black elk speaks wrote:you don't think that obama is a super leftist libral?


No ofcourse not, I'm european.

But I'm just amazed you could consider McCain central.


not central, but more central than obama. i would'nt call McCain a moderate, but i do think that he stands more closely to the moderate line than does obama. that said, i haven't decided who to vote for just yet. obama's new running mate is a most qualified candidate for VP and as such, i might consider voting democratic this november. that said, i have to see who mccain chooses as well. if he chooses lieberman, i think that it would be a good fight.
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Re: Looks Like Its Joe Biden. (Poll)

Postby Snorri1234 on Sun Aug 24, 2008 9:12 am

black elk speaks wrote:
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black elk speaks wrote:you don't think that obama is a super leftist libral?


No ofcourse not, I'm european.

But I'm just amazed you could consider McCain central.


not central, but more central than obama. i would'nt call McCain a moderate, but i do think that he stands more closely to the moderate line than does obama. that said, i haven't decided who to vote for just yet. obama's new running mate is a most qualified candidate for VP and as such, i might consider voting democratic this november. that said, i have to see who mccain chooses as well. if he chooses lieberman, i think that it would be a good fight.


Well that might be true and all, but the fact is that Hilary doesn't stand very central either. She's certainly more liberal on some points than Obama, she might be more to the centre than him, but her policies are far more in line with Obama's than with those from McCain.
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Re: Looks Like Its Joe Biden. (Poll)

Postby black elk speaks on Sun Aug 24, 2008 9:27 am

no argument there.
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Re: Looks Like Its Joe Biden. (Poll)

Postby gdeangel on Sun Aug 24, 2008 10:57 am

I hate to chime in late here, but I am appalled that O'Bama would pick a commensurate Washington Insider. I was a Hillary supporter in the beginning. I was on the fence, having some serious doubts when snipits of O'Bama's the tax plan were published last week by O'Bama's advisers. The upper middle class of America - that position that most aspire to and which has always been within reach with the right mix of talent and hard work - will get creamed by his progam. The upper class, that position in society occupied through (1) hereditary wealth, (2) extraordinary luck, or (3) duping the masses into funding your wealth, and which does very little to support the economic morale of the country, will largely go on with business as usual.

And now O'Bama gives another glipse of his true colors. Biden is a choice that big money - the party superstars whose largess is responsible for O'Bama turning down matching funds for his campaig - can be comfortable with. To anyone who thinks foreign policy is the most important issue, McCain's willingness to commit to victory and unapologetically refusing to pander to the public is far superior in my opinion to picking a beltway insider with foreign policy experience as VP. The only reason Cheney has wielded influence as a VP is because of his close relationship with the Bush. The far more important position in an O'Bama administration impacting foreign policy will be his Secretary of State. On the other hand, the choice of VP sets up the tone of who they are trying to make feel at home again in the party. And it's not Hillary Clinton democrats. It's the big money party bosses. This choice moves me further down the line toward a McCain vote. If only he wasn't trying to pander to the female vote by parading around his "school teacher" with hereditary wealth trophy wife (wow, who actually thought she would be an asset to the campaign... maybe in the 1950's???)...
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Re: Looks Like Its Joe Biden. (Poll)

Postby black elk speaks on Sun Aug 24, 2008 11:24 am

gdeangel wrote:I hate to chime in late here, but I am appalled that O'Bama would pick a commensurate Washington Insider. I was a Hillary supporter in the beginning. I was on the fence, having some serious doubts when snipits of O'Bama's the tax plan were published last week by O'Bama's advisers. The upper middle class of America - that position that most aspire to and which has always been within reach with the right mix of talent and hard work - will get creamed by his progam. The upper class, that position in society occupied through (1) hereditary wealth, (2) extraordinary luck, or (3) duping the masses into funding your wealth, and which does very little to support the economic morale of the country, will largely go on with business as usual.

And now O'Bama gives another glipse of his true colors. Biden is a choice that big money - the party superstars whose largess is responsible for O'Bama turning down matching funds for his campaig - can be comfortable with. To anyone who thinks foreign policy is the most important issue, McCain's willingness to commit to victory and unapologetically refusing to pander to the public is far superior in my opinion to picking a beltway insider with foreign policy experience as VP. The only reason Cheney has wielded influence as a VP is because of his close relationship with the Bush. The far more important position in an O'Bama administration impacting foreign policy will be his Secretary of State. On the other hand, the choice of VP sets up the tone of who they are trying to make feel at home again in the party. And it's not Hillary Clinton democrats. It's the big money party bosses. This choice moves me further down the line toward a McCain vote. If only he wasn't trying to pander to the female vote by parading around his "school teacher" with hereditary wealth trophy wife (wow, who actually thought she would be an asset to the campaign... maybe in the 1950's???)...

so you are a democrat that (as it stands now) will vote for McCain, just not because Obama he is black?
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Re: Looks Like Its Joe Biden. (Poll)

Postby jay_a2j on Sun Aug 24, 2008 12:30 pm

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Re: Looks Like Its Joe Biden. (Poll)

Postby black elk speaks on Sun Aug 24, 2008 12:36 pm



relevance? im just wondering why that add makes mccain an idiot?
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Re: Looks Like Its Joe Biden. (Poll)

Postby jay_a2j on Sun Aug 24, 2008 12:42 pm

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relevance? im just wondering why that add makes mccain an idiot?



Hmmmm for starters Obama picking Hillary would seal a Dem victory in Nov. Not to mention the lack of imagination of this ad. Is McCain's ad guy a 5th grader?


And according to this logic, McCain HAS to pick Romney for his VP.
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Re: Looks Like Its Joe Biden. (Poll)

Postby black elk speaks on Sun Aug 24, 2008 12:49 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
black elk speaks wrote:


relevance? im just wondering why that add makes mccain an idiot?



Hmmmm for starters Obama picking Hillary would seal a Dem victory in Nov. Not to mention the lack of imagination of this ad. Is McCain's ad guy a 5th grader?


perhaps you miss the point of the add? i think the ad suggests that obama couldn't stomach hillary as a running mate because she exposed so many of obama's flaws during the primaries. it seems to me that, despite what you say about a 'sealed victory' had obama chosen hillary, the infighting and differences within the democratic party came before securing the party's victory since hillary stung obama's ego so harshly in the primaries.

as an individual, these are the things that i deduce from the inferences of the add. please share your views on the add, as i an highly interested in its relevance to this topic.
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Re: Looks Like Its Joe Biden. (Poll)

Postby jay_a2j on Sun Aug 24, 2008 12:55 pm

black elk speaks wrote:as i an highly interested in its relevance to this topic.



The topic is about Obama's VP, the add is about Obama's VP. If you can't see the relevance, there is a problem.

It's all good because I can't stomach Hillary Clinton. :sick:
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Re: Looks Like Its Joe Biden. (Poll)

Postby black elk speaks on Sun Aug 24, 2008 12:57 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
black elk speaks wrote:as i an highly interested in its relevance to this topic.



The topic is about Obama's VP, the add is about Obama's VP. If you can't see the relevance, there is a problem.

It's all good because I can't stomach Hillary Clinton. :sick:


thanks for clarifying, because your comments in the post were about how mccain is an idiot, highly irrelevant to the topic. moreover, the ad was about hiiiary, not biden, even more irrelevant. not that that is cleared up, i suppose it is okay to move on.
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Re: Looks Like Its Joe Biden. (Poll)

Postby Dancing Mustard on Sun Aug 24, 2008 1:19 pm

He's got a valid point though hasn't he?


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Re: Looks Like Its Joe Biden. (Poll)

Postby black elk speaks on Sun Aug 24, 2008 1:25 pm

oh well, there goes the neighborhood.
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Re: Looks Like Its Joe Biden. (Poll)

Postby black elk speaks on Sun Aug 24, 2008 1:32 pm

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Dancing Mustard wrote:He's got a valid point though hasn't he?


Also, stop trying to suppress Willy's freedom to speak his mind with your lizardman-loving, freedom-stifling, unconstitutional, down-with-free-speech-and-up-with-the-NWO, hate speech. It's people like you who make the Camps possible, and you should be ashamed of that.


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Re: Looks Like Its Joe Biden. (Poll)

Postby DaGip on Sun Aug 24, 2008 1:42 pm

I think Obama got kind of weirded out by Hillary's interview with the Argus Leader in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. She mentioned very creepily the assassination of RFK in June...I think Obama was a wise man for not choosing her...she would have probably had him offed when he became president. I think there was some loss of trust between them over the whole Argus Leader deal...plus, I don't believe she ever apologized for the assassination insinuation against Obama.
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